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Just looks like he wants to put some positive spin on the thing. Nothing wrong with that.
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Interesting stuff about the Cleveland pick. I wonder if he's right, or just forgetful?
Looks to me like he wants to make a big splash with next years free agents. It is obvious they we will be moving one more contract.
Question: What does Howard Eisley bring to the Suns?
Jerry Colangelo: He’s brings strong, veteran leadership. He’s a very capable point guard. He had a great game against the Lakers. He’s a perfect complement to Leandro Barbosa at the point position.
Caller: I really stand by what you’re doing with the organization. I think a lot of fans forget that. Regardless of what’s worked and what hasn’t, you’ve tried to do something good. If it doesn’t work out, well, it is a crapshoot.
Jerry Colangelo: I appreciate that. There is also lot of preparation and insight into trying to do the things that will improve us in the long run. The nucleus of this young group and the options we now have that we didn’t have before, through the draft and free agency allow us to make a real leap rather than being stuck. That’s why we excited about our opportunities.
Caller: In the past, you’ve dealt pretty harshly with athletes who’ve behaved inappropriately. Hypothetically if there was a situation where you could bring a player like Kobe who has the baggage he’s carrying, do you think that would affect bringing him here?
Jerry Colangelo: We can’t be specific with the tampering rules we have. You’ve heard me say that a case takes its course. If someone breaks a law or does something wrong, they have to pay for it. You have to weigh those things individually. I wouldn’t compromise, but you have to be open-minded relative to each of those individual circumstances. We have to let it go at that.
Caller: For next year, what positions are we looking to fill on the Suns roster? Are we going to the college pool, the free agent pool, the European pool. No names. I was just looking for what the team is going to look like. I know Amaré Stoudemire is the centerpiece that we build around. We’ve been a point guard-centered team for some years, and obviously Amaré’s not a point guard.
Jerry Colangelo: You have to look at the nucleus of Zarko Cabarkapa and Barbosa, two rookies for this year, along with Shawn Marion, Joe Johnson and Amaré Stoudemire. You’ve got to have some centers and different pieces, but start with that nucleus. Remember we will lose a player in the expansion draft to the new Charlotte team. We have two first round picks, so we will be looking at all available players, high school, college and Europe. We also have a guard from Serbia who we think is a real player. Not only us, but everyone in the league recognizes he’s the best point guard in Europe. So he can be another fine addition. Plus we have cap space now after the trade to be active in the free agency market. To what degree, remains to be seen. There could still be another transaction to take place to free up some more room. We’d like to be in the position where we could compete with anyone for any player in the marketplace. It would take one more trade to reduce our salaries a bit further.
Dave Burns: What is the status of the draft pick you got from the Cleveland Cavaliers? Where does that stand? When can you use that? How protected is that?
Jerry Colangelo: We have the Cleveland pick the first year they make the playoffs. That’s for the next three or four years. There is a year where it automatically comes to us, but it might be four or five years down the road.
Dave Burns: Tom Gugliotta… A possible transaction. Is there a situation where you would move him if the situation warranted it?
Jerry Colangelo: Any transactions that we would be involved in would involve making a deal for cap purposes. I’m not going to be specific with a name or names, but some people can deduct from there.
Dave Burns: By trading Stephon Marbury and Penny Hardaway to free up cap space for free agents, are you looking for a center? Are you looking for more of a power game or a perimeter game?
Jerry Colangelo: We’ll look for power if we can find power, but we need to look at the options that are available to us. You might end with two free agents instead of one. You might end up putting all your money in one basket and go after one. We don’t know how much space we’ll have at this point.
Jerry Colangelo: He’s brings strong, veteran leadership. He’s a very capable point guard. He had a great game against the Lakers. He’s a perfect complement to Leandro Barbosa at the point position.
Caller: I really stand by what you’re doing with the organization. I think a lot of fans forget that. Regardless of what’s worked and what hasn’t, you’ve tried to do something good. If it doesn’t work out, well, it is a crapshoot.
Jerry Colangelo: I appreciate that. There is also lot of preparation and insight into trying to do the things that will improve us in the long run. The nucleus of this young group and the options we now have that we didn’t have before, through the draft and free agency allow us to make a real leap rather than being stuck. That’s why we excited about our opportunities.
Caller: In the past, you’ve dealt pretty harshly with athletes who’ve behaved inappropriately. Hypothetically if there was a situation where you could bring a player like Kobe who has the baggage he’s carrying, do you think that would affect bringing him here?
Jerry Colangelo: We can’t be specific with the tampering rules we have. You’ve heard me say that a case takes its course. If someone breaks a law or does something wrong, they have to pay for it. You have to weigh those things individually. I wouldn’t compromise, but you have to be open-minded relative to each of those individual circumstances. We have to let it go at that.
Caller: For next year, what positions are we looking to fill on the Suns roster? Are we going to the college pool, the free agent pool, the European pool. No names. I was just looking for what the team is going to look like. I know Amaré Stoudemire is the centerpiece that we build around. We’ve been a point guard-centered team for some years, and obviously Amaré’s not a point guard.
Jerry Colangelo: You have to look at the nucleus of Zarko Cabarkapa and Barbosa, two rookies for this year, along with Shawn Marion, Joe Johnson and Amaré Stoudemire. You’ve got to have some centers and different pieces, but start with that nucleus. Remember we will lose a player in the expansion draft to the new Charlotte team. We have two first round picks, so we will be looking at all available players, high school, college and Europe. We also have a guard from Serbia who we think is a real player. Not only us, but everyone in the league recognizes he’s the best point guard in Europe. So he can be another fine addition. Plus we have cap space now after the trade to be active in the free agency market. To what degree, remains to be seen. There could still be another transaction to take place to free up some more room. We’d like to be in the position where we could compete with anyone for any player in the marketplace. It would take one more trade to reduce our salaries a bit further.
Dave Burns: What is the status of the draft pick you got from the Cleveland Cavaliers? Where does that stand? When can you use that? How protected is that?
Jerry Colangelo: We have the Cleveland pick the first year they make the playoffs. That’s for the next three or four years. There is a year where it automatically comes to us, but it might be four or five years down the road.
Dave Burns: Tom Gugliotta… A possible transaction. Is there a situation where you would move him if the situation warranted it?
Jerry Colangelo: Any transactions that we would be involved in would involve making a deal for cap purposes. I’m not going to be specific with a name or names, but some people can deduct from there.
Dave Burns: By trading Stephon Marbury and Penny Hardaway to free up cap space for free agents, are you looking for a center? Are you looking for more of a power game or a perimeter game?
Jerry Colangelo: We’ll look for power if we can find power, but we need to look at the options that are available to us. You might end with two free agents instead of one. You might end up putting all your money in one basket and go after one. We don’t know how much space we’ll have at this point.
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It sure sounds to me like he's targeting Bryant. There's no one else this summer for whom you'd say, "We’d like to be in the position where we could compete with anyone for any player in the marketplace." And he basically said he'd be willing to "forgive and forget" if Bryant is acquitted in the rape case.
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Caller: In the past, you¡¯ve dealt pretty harshly with athletes who¡¯ve behaved inappropriately. Hypothetically if there was a situation where you could bring a player like Kobe who has the baggage he¡¯s carrying, do you think that would affect bringing him here?
Jerry Colangelo: We can't be specific with the tampering rules we have. You've heard me say that a case takes its course. If someone breaks a law or does something wrong, they have to pay for it. You have to weigh those things individually. I wouldn't compromise, but you have to be open-minded relative to each of those individual circumstances. We have to let it go at that.
So, we have to be open-minded to welcome Kobe with open arms. It's official now!
Jerry Colangelo: We can't be specific with the tampering rules we have. You've heard me say that a case takes its course. If someone breaks a law or does something wrong, they have to pay for it. You have to weigh those things individually. I wouldn't compromise, but you have to be open-minded relative to each of those individual circumstances. We have to let it go at that.
So, we have to be open-minded to welcome Kobe with open arms. It's official now!
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JC is hedging his bets. I would have been surprising if he did not at least leave the option open that they MIGHT go for Kobe. But it seems awfully doubtful
The Suns will do everything possible to get Kobe.
I don't necessarily like it, but I understand the logic. The Suns are in an ultra competitive sports market right now and stars sell tickets.
I don't necessarily like it, but I understand the logic. The Suns are in an ultra competitive sports market right now and stars sell tickets.
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Almost all the discussion involves defining what "everytihing possible" actually means.
Lots of interesting stuff here. Bryan Colangelo is the forthright one, though, so everything comes with a grain of salt.
If the Suns will lose a player in the expansion draft, does that mean that Casey Jacobsen will be unprotected? The only other possible option is Jahidi White...Jacobsen was also excluded from the 'nucleus', but Barbosa was not, and (apparently) neither was Vujanic.
It sounds to me like the Cleveland pick will go into arbitration by the league if the Cavs keep losing. That could make the pick quite valuable, although it seems doubtful the Cavs will be bad for too long now that LeBron is aboard.
They're still pushing Googs on Utah. I bet they're offering several second-round picks to go along with him, too.
(If they were offering a first-rounder, I think the deal would have been done already.)
The fact that they're trying to clear more cap space says to me that they think they're legitimate players for Kobe. Jerry C got weaselly on that one, though...
If Kobe falls through, it looks like they're going to go after a mid-priced free agent center (Camby? Dampier?) instead of hoarding their cap space for 2005.
Hey--all I know is what I read in the newspaper...
If the Suns will lose a player in the expansion draft, does that mean that Casey Jacobsen will be unprotected? The only other possible option is Jahidi White...Jacobsen was also excluded from the 'nucleus', but Barbosa was not, and (apparently) neither was Vujanic.
It sounds to me like the Cleveland pick will go into arbitration by the league if the Cavs keep losing. That could make the pick quite valuable, although it seems doubtful the Cavs will be bad for too long now that LeBron is aboard.
They're still pushing Googs on Utah. I bet they're offering several second-round picks to go along with him, too.
(If they were offering a first-rounder, I think the deal would have been done already.)The fact that they're trying to clear more cap space says to me that they think they're legitimate players for Kobe. Jerry C got weaselly on that one, though...
If Kobe falls through, it looks like they're going to go after a mid-priced free agent center (Camby? Dampier?) instead of hoarding their cap space for 2005.
Hey--all I know is what I read in the newspaper...
Jerry Colangelo: We have the Cleveland pick the first year they make the playoffs. That’s for the next three or four years. There is a year where it automatically comes to us, but it might be four or five years down the road.
What's worng with his comment? Sound's right to me.
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Originally posted by F-Dog
Lots of interesting stuff here. Bryan Colangelo is the forthright one, though, so everything comes with a grain of salt.
If the Suns will lose a player in the expansion draft, does that mean that Casey Jacobsen will be unprotected? The only other possible option is Jahidi White...Jacobsen was also excluded from the 'nucleus', but Barbosa was not, and (apparently) neither was Vujanic.
It sounds to me like the Cleveland pick will go into arbitration by the league if the Cavs keep losing. That could make the pick quite valuable, although it seems doubtful the Cavs will be bad for too long now that LeBron is aboard.
They're still pushing Googs on Utah. I bet they're offering several second-round picks to go along with him, too.
The fact that they're trying to clear more cap space says to me that they think they're legitimate players for Kobe. Jerry C got weaselly on that one, though...
If Kobe falls through, it looks like they're going to go after a mid-priced free agent center (Camby? Dampier?) instead of hoarding their cap space for 2005.
Hey--all I know is what I read in the newspaper...
Don't believe the newspapers. Believe us.
It would be nice to get the Cleveland pick through arbitration. Right now it would the #3 pick.
Googs to Utah is simply financial. There is no way they give up a first for him to go.
The Kobe situation is so uncertain that it is pointless to worry about it. (He could be convicted, decide to stay in LA, or get an offer above what the Suns could offer even with more cap space.)
Is Camby healthy? Is Dampier just a contract year wonder? Damned if I know.
Supposedly, the Cleveland pick is lotto protected--forever.
Nowadays, you can only protect picks for 6 yrs, so it's possible that the league will work something out if Cleveland doesn't make the playoffs for a few more years.
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JC says regarding Kobe:
"I wouldn’t compromise, but you have to be open-minded relative to each of those individual circumstances. We have to let it go at that."
Wow Jerry seems willing to compromise in order to get a star like Kobe if he doesn't end up in jail. With his stance on wanting "good citizens" I'd be shocked by that. But on the other hand he bit the bullet with Barkley's tarnished rep. And that worked out. But it certainly sounds like Kobe is in play.
JC says regarding trading Googs:
"Any transactions that we would be involved in would involve making a deal for cap purposes. I’m not going to be specific with a name or names, but some people can deduct from there."
Well that clearly answers that. Googs is not being traded. He doesn't affect the cap next year because he's off the books. He would have mentioned a trade for tax avoidance purposes if that was the case. No he means that a player who is not part of the nucleus and who has a contract beyond this season is trade bait. So that leaves Eisley, Cjake and White.
Notice that Casey was not mentioned as part of nucleus. So yeah Casey could be taken in the expansion draft. And Eisley or White will more than likely be drafted. And it appears that our expiring contracts will just be allowed to expire.
White may be tradeable. Unfortunately the Suns are clearly trying to showcase Eisley- and he's sucking big time. So were stuck. There is still the off season to make a trade and try and dump White or Eisely if Kobe wins his case.
"I wouldn’t compromise, but you have to be open-minded relative to each of those individual circumstances. We have to let it go at that."
Wow Jerry seems willing to compromise in order to get a star like Kobe if he doesn't end up in jail. With his stance on wanting "good citizens" I'd be shocked by that. But on the other hand he bit the bullet with Barkley's tarnished rep. And that worked out. But it certainly sounds like Kobe is in play.
JC says regarding trading Googs:
"Any transactions that we would be involved in would involve making a deal for cap purposes. I’m not going to be specific with a name or names, but some people can deduct from there."
Well that clearly answers that. Googs is not being traded. He doesn't affect the cap next year because he's off the books. He would have mentioned a trade for tax avoidance purposes if that was the case. No he means that a player who is not part of the nucleus and who has a contract beyond this season is trade bait. So that leaves Eisley, Cjake and White.
Notice that Casey was not mentioned as part of nucleus. So yeah Casey could be taken in the expansion draft. And Eisley or White will more than likely be drafted. And it appears that our expiring contracts will just be allowed to expire.
White may be tradeable. Unfortunately the Suns are clearly trying to showcase Eisley- and he's sucking big time. So were stuck. There is still the off season to make a trade and try and dump White or Eisely if Kobe wins his case.
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The great thing about arbitration is that you never know what will be decided. An no, I don't honestly believe that the Suns will get their pick this season.
Let's hope McInness turns the Cavs arround!
Chaplin
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And, as usual, people are probably reading way too much in everything JC says. CJ not being included in the nucleus he described. Are you kidding me? If anyone actually believes that Jerry Colangelo intentionally didn't mention him in order to reveal that he might be traded is smoking.
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I expect the Suns will protect CJ from the Bobcats, but I do not see him as a core player and I would doubt JC does either. He was drafted as backup role player, period.
Chaplin
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My point, obviously, is that everyone takes what he says in a radio show and dissects it, like it is the gospel on the policies the Suns are promoting and following.
The simple truth is, he gets asked a question, he answers it. Don't make it more than what it is.
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What? You're no fun.
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Which is highly unlikely, IMO.
The CLE pick is lotto protected---forever. Period.
Chaplin
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Not according to Jerry Colangelo.
But what does he know? It's not like he owns the team or anything. Oh. Wait.
Originally posted by Chaplin
Not according to Jerry Colangelo.
But what does he know? It's not like he owns the team or anything. Oh. Wait.
Last week Jerry Colangelo thought Lampe was a first-round draft pick. I trust Bryan Colangelo more than his father on this one, and he has said several times that the Cleveland pick is lottery protected until the end of time.
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I'm guessing that JC simply misspoke about Lampe. The odd part of it was that prior to the draft, everyone was sure that the Knicks would take Lampe as their first round pick, so it was weird that he was their second round pick.
Arbitration does seem like a long shot, but who knows? It is not out of the question that the arbitrator might pick a date in the future when the pick has be usable. This would give it value, even if it is three years out.
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Jerry's interested in Kobe.
I've been a Suns fan for 30 years and I've listened to him talk long enough to know what this statement means.
It means that his sources are telling him that Kobe is likely getting a raw deal, he's not guilty of rape, and he's likely to be aquitted. Of course, the Suns will have no interest in Kobe if he's found guilty. But JC is keeping his options open.
Now don't misunderstand, I'm not at all a Kobe proponent. I've just listened to Jerry talk long enough. If he had no interest, he would have left that last line out. He is very careful about how he communicates and you can usually figure out whats going on if you listen carefully.
Joe Johnson might change Jerry's mind though.
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