I disagree. He dressed but that was it. He didn't take part in a play, at all, on either end of the floor. The ball was thrown in and the clock ticked away. Most of the players were walking off the floor, talking to each other or coaches. It was worse than a DNP since he had the opportunity to do nothing. There was no time to accumulate a stat. By the time he checked in the game was over and he could have held the ball like a football and walked to halfcourt with it without a whistle or anyone complaining.
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I disagree. He dressed but that was it. He didn't take part in a play, at all, on either end of the floor. The ball was thrown in and the clock ticked away. Most of the players were walking off the floor, talking to each other or coaches. It was worse than a DNP since he had the opportunity to do nothing. There was no time to accumulate a stat. By the time he checked in the game was over and he could have held the ball like a football and walked to halfcourt with it without a whistle or anyone complaining.
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I never deleted the game, so I watched the last couple of minutes again, and Phrazbit is correct. Bridges was waiting to check in for almost two minutes.
That's what rookies are for. Much ado about nothing.
Correct me if I'm wrong but he gets a zero in all categories for a game if he steps on the court. Statistically speaking, zeros warp ALL stats. Considering so much prestige and money is connected to stats its a pretty lame thing to do to a kid. That's why Jalen Rose was MILDLY calling Igor out.
To help clarify, right now Bridges is averaging 0.0 pts/gm whereas Bender has no statistics to report for his DNP. If they both score 10 points next game, Bender will report 10 pts/gm as opposed to Bridges who will report 5 pts/gm.
To help clarify, right now Bridges is averaging 0.0 pts/gm whereas Bender has no statistics to report for his DNP. If they both score 10 points next game, Bender will report 10 pts/gm as opposed to Bridges who will report 5 pts/gm.
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He is a rookie. He wouldn't have scored 10 points even if he had five minutes of playing time.
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What does that really matter? We are living in an age where you can easily find advanced stats and video footage of what these players are doing on the court. No self respecting front office is going to sign one player over another simply based on raw stats.
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So what? I’m trying to figure out why this is such a big problem.
I just looked at the box score from Wednesday's game on nba.com. Bridges' looks no different than Bender's. 0's across the board:
https://www.nba.com/games/20181017/DALPHX#/boxscore
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Especially in his rookie season none the less...not like he’s due for a contract extension anytime soon which is the time when his “stats” would factor in a way that can hurt him.
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Exactly. Even Mainstreet is starting to freak out about this.
Yes, but it should change if they both play next game.
For context clarity, I looked at Brad Wanamaker's stats from Boston. He played one game and had one DNP. He scored 2 points in his one minute. His stats report 2.0 pts/gm as opposed to 1.0 pts/gm. Both ESPN and NBA.com are reporting 2.0 pts/gm.
And just to be clear, there isn't a single NBA player that isn't concerned about their stats whether they admit it or not. (Even stats per game)
And no, I don't think this is a big deal. Just trying to help clarify why Jalen Rose called out Igor.
You lost me. Old box scores don't change when you play another game.
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He's saying that it will reflect in their season stats. For instance if they both score 10 points in their next game Bender would be averaging 10 and Bridges 5. I still don't see why that matters though.
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I will post this again.
Hopefully Bridges will get minutes with Daniels out.
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Hopefully Bridges will get minutes with Daniels out.
I don't think anyone is saying it's that important. Some have explained why the talking heads on ESPN and NBA TV have called out Igor for doing that to Bridges. Since it's game 1 of the year though it's really not much of an issue, especially since he's on a rookie contract with no incentives. Some players have incentives tied into their deals though where they need to average X to get Y amount of money and playing someone for 15 seconds could ruin there bonus, which is probably why the older NBA players took exception to Igor putting Bridges in like that, especially since Bridges was a lottery pick and shouldn't be inserted into a game unless he has a chance to do something, anything.
No one here is condemning Igor. Some have simply tried explaining WHY it was a talking point, a negative one at that, after a good win on national TV. It didn't look great. However since it was game 1 and not game 81, it will be long forgotten when games really matter this year. For this month though it could skew Bridges stats if he gets quality time in the next 2 or 3 games. If he gets like 10 points and another 10 against the Warriors, he'll actually be averaging 6.7 a game instead 10, like he should, because he has 1 game where he accumulated ZERO stats.
No one here is condemning Igor. Some have simply tried explaining WHY it was a talking point, a negative one at that, after a good win on national TV. It didn't look great. However since it was game 1 and not game 81, it will be long forgotten when games really matter this year. For this month though it could skew Bridges stats if he gets quality time in the next 2 or 3 games. If he gets like 10 points and another 10 against the Warriors, he'll actually be averaging 6.7 a game instead 10, like he should, because he has 1 game where he accumulated ZERO stats.
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What you say is true, but the real reason it's a talking point is because we all live in this diseased culture where the media spends 95% of their time trying to draw attention to themselves with made-up controversies. Jalen Rose said something stupid and that should have been the end of it. Instead, we have people talking about why he said it, and other people talking about the reactions of those people who noticed he said it, and other people talking about how now it's a "story." It's one of the pathologies of our click-bait age.
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I've seen enough....He can go...Plays similar to Bender quite frankly...
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For all the crap Bender takes, he certainly plays better than Anderson.
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I don't know, they look like twins to me. I'm not sure I'd play either guy but OTOH, at least Bender has an outside chance of improving.
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I said this a few days ago. Bender could be worse, but at least he tries. The vet leaders we have right now are not very good examples.
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Bender plays better D than Anderson. Until this last game, you could argue they shoot the three the same. So I think we need defense more than scoring, so I would err with Bender. Not that it isn't a close difference.
OK I'm a JJ hater but I'd rather have him on the court then the Vets. With Booker out Josh and Bridges and Warren should all be on the court at the same time.
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Why can't the Suns do better than . . . the better of the worst?
Have we given up on setting the bar higher? Not All Star level. Just higher than it is now.
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No. We are just considering available options at the moment.
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