Keala King Gone

[overseascardfan]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...8/arizona.st.king.ap/index.html?sct=hp_t2_a17

Looks like ASU basketball will be getting worse, which is hard to believe.

 

[AsUdUdE]

This guy was an absolute head case...

Not a team guy, a me first player with an attitude..

Could be addition by subtraction, IMO

 

[azsportsfan01]

King isn't that selfish of a player. He was our best player on the team. This is all on Sendek. Here is a look at the guys he has run off:

2006: George Odufuwa and Christian Polk
2007: Kraidon Woods
2008: Johnny Coy and Taylor Rohde
2009:Brandon Thompson, Victor Rudd and Demetrius Walker
2010: Brandon Dunson, Keala King and Corey Hawkins

I'd venture to say that these guys would make a better team than is currently playing.

 

[Mulli]

Selfish, me first players? In college bball? How dare he?!?!?

 

[Russ Smith]

as I've been telling UCLA fans recently at some point you have to realize there are TONS of selfish me first kids these days. They've all been raised to think they're special. At some point you have to say if the coach can't keep those guys and get them to perform, either never recruit them or get a new coach.

Howland has lots tons of guys too some of them much better than Herb's list. While I wish guys were just tougher or had the patience to sit early in their careers, this is reality today.

King probably deserved to go, but then remember duing his freshman year rumors were rampant he was going to transfer and ASU convinced him to stay. Maybe they shouldn't have done that?

Just a crazy year so many transfers and suspensions dismissals.

 

[wilycoyote24]

First evident in football and now in basketball (well, now even more so in basketball). ASU seems to have no desire to beat UA ever again. I wonder if NAU is up to creating a legitimate rivalry with the Cats.

 

[Mainstreet]

First evident in football and now in basketball (well, now even more so in basketball). ASU seems to have no desire to beat UA ever again. I wonder if NAU is up to creating a legitimate rivalry with the Cats.

Trolling. It must be boring in the kitty forum. I think UA forming a rivalry with NAU would be appropriate.

 

[Renz]

Trolling. It must be boring in the kitty forum. I think UA forming a rivalry with NAU would be appropriate.

Well, the Cats actually beat NAU this season, something asu failed to do.

 

[Mainstreet]

Well, the Cats actually beat NAU this season, something asu failed to do.

I agree. It's a good rivalry for the Cats. Maybe Southern Cal would be a better rival for ASU.

 

[PoolBoy]

ive heard what happened. he deserved to be kicked off the team.

 

[azsportsfan01]

ive heard what happened. he deserved to be kicked off the team.

Care to share?

 

[Mulli]

ive heard what happened. he deserved to be kicked off the team.

I am going to need you to PM me the information.

 

[Gaddabout]

With all the hour-to-hour attention and pressure to conform, there are plenty of kids who don't belong on a college campus who end up belonging and even excelling. Then there are kids like King whose will to piss on everything is much greater than people's ability to reign him in.

But the issue isn't why he was kicked off the team. It's why he was recruited in the first place. I can only think of two reasons: inability to vet a kid's character or desperation. Neither is the sign of a program going forward.

I officially deem this era Rob Evans II, although the better X's and O's and the absence of the coach on the sidelines screaming "COMPETE! COMPETE!" has made it last longer this time.

Arizona can bear down. ASU is savoring the mediocrity. Hell, we just threw some baste on it so it can cook for an extra two years. It should reach a simmering blah just in time for alumni to wake up and realize the program has disintegrated.

Go team.

 

[Mainstreet]

With all the hour-to-hour attention and pressure to conform, there are plenty of kids who don't belong on a college campus who end up belonging and even excelling. Then there are kids like King whose will to piss on everything is much greater than people's ability to reign him in.

But the issue isn't why he was kicked off the team. It's why he was recruited in the first place. I can only think of two reasons: inability to vet a kid's character or desperation. Neither is the sign of a program going forward.

I officially deem this era Rob Evans II, although the better X's and O's and the absence of the coach on the sidelines screaming "COMPETE! COMPETE!" has made it last longer this time.

Arizona can bear down. ASU is savoring the mediocrity. Hell, we just threw some baste on it so it can cook for an extra two years. It should reach a simmering blah just in time for alumni to wake up and realize the program has disintegrated.

Go team.

After Ned Wulk was fired it has all been a blur. ASU had a legacy of racehorse style basketball and the talent this style attracted. Why is it so hard for an objective athletic department to look back to the times it was highly successful and use this as a template for the future?

At least it wouldn't be boring which is what ASU basketball is now.

 

[Gaddabout]

After Ned Wulk was fired it has all been a blur. ASU had a legacy of racehorse style basketball and the talent this style attracted. Why is it so hard for an objective athletic department to look back to the times it was highly successful and use this as a template for the future?

I think you play whatever style you can best recruit regardless what you've done in the past. I'm not as hip to West Coast basketball as some of you, but if you look at the programs that have been consistently good, I think you see a need to be balanced and always have good size. I think there's also been a long bleed of California players to other programs like Kansas that eventually someone has to redirect.

I really don't know how you do that at ASU with such minimal basketball history without hiring a young West Coast coach who gets it and can recruit better than most. It also would require much more of a financial commitment from our boosters, and it's just not there, so maybe we're climbing a hill we just can't climb. I don't really know. I just know what we have now is not working and hasn't shown any signs it will work.

 

[HooverDam]

Well the silver lining of Herbs contract running 2 more years is that by then Archie Millers resume will be more than impressive enough for him to warrant being hired away from Dayton. He's got the West Coast/Arizona experience, is a good recruiter and it sure would be fun seeing him Coach against his brother.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Ha, there's a less than zero percent chance Archie goes to ASU if Sean is there.

 

[azsportsfan01]

Well the silver lining of Herbs contract running 2 more years is that by then Archie Millers resume will be more than impressive enough for him to warrant being hired away from Dayton. He's got the West Coast/Arizona experience, is a good recruiter and it sure would be fun seeing him Coach against his brother.

I've been on the Archie Miller bandwagon for a while now and if ASU wants to make a play for him (and I doubt he would come here) it has to be this off-season. He is already starting to get a bigger name and if he has continued success in Dayton next year he will be too big of a name for ASU to bring in. If ASU wants to bring goodwill and most importantly donations back to the program they need to take a shot at a coach like Miller.

 

[Mulli]

Archie would have to be a serious dope to come to ASU.

 

[Mr. Boldin]

Archie would have to drop out of the family and become a cult member before he takes a Pac-12 job, let alone the ASU job.

 

[Lefty]

Why would he even consider ASU anyway?

 

[Dback Jon]

Maybe because ASU could pay more than Dayton, and is in a major conference...

 

[Lefty]

Maybe because ASU could pay more than Dayton, and is in a major conference...

ASU is where coaches go to die. Archie can go to a program where the school and fans support the program.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Ha, there's a less than zero percent chance Archie goes to ASU if Sean is there.

Maybe Sean and Archie have a huge dustup, and it turns into a giant family feud! Any ideas on how to sow the seeds of discontent? Tell Sean Archie was hitting on his wife?