Keim's Cardinal CBs on roster

[Arz101]

And somehow you know that will be the case...

And somehow you know that will NOT be the case...

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[DVontel]

I will go further, only us and the Dolphins were teams with a positive point differential that didn't make the playoffs. The Dolphins ended with 10 wins though.

Cleveland looks like a huge regression candidate. -11 point differential yet somehow 11 wins

Them blowout losses against Baltimore & Pittsburgh early in the season skews it imo. I’ll be very surprised if they regress instead of progress.

 

[QuebecCard]

And somehow you know that will NOT be the case...

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No. I don't know and can't understand why you think you do.

 

[Arz101]

No. I don't know and can't understand why you think you do.

What is sports talk on a forum if one cannot opine about how one feels about the team. Seriously, there are two sides. A hopeful and not-so-hopeful side. We are on opposite spectrums that is it.

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[Proximo]

I've got a feeling Gowan will be the starting #2.

That is not necessarily a good thing.

 

[Goldfield]

I still have a sneaky suspicion that they plan to move Murphy outside and Murphy probably wants to move outside, that's where the money is in a contract year.

Keim can be dumb, but I don't think he's "Put all my eggs in the Alford basket" dumb. I think Murphy and Butler play outside with whoever is left in the slot, hell maybe Alford in the slot. Might suit him better at this stage.

I’ve thought Murphy outside was the plan or they would of added another vet

 

[kerouac9]

I’ve thought Murphy outside was the plan or they would of added another vet

I wonder if they’ll do what they did last year and have Murphy outside and move him into the slot on 5 DB packages.

 

[b8rtm8nn]

Keim can be dumb, but I don't think he's "Put all my eggs in the Alford basket" dumb.

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[Solar7]

We all know how I feel. I think we're highly overrating Butler on this board.

 

[Arz101]

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Keim would rather see a photo of himself in the county jail rather see this photo again.

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[Arz101]

We all know how I feel. I think we're highly overrating Butler on this board.

Butler is the best of the bunch and he is overrated and that says a lot about the CBs behind him.

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[DVontel]

We all know how I feel. I think we're highly overrating Butler on this board.

Declining CB that played behind an atrocious pass-rush. Idk how that’s overrating.

 

[Solar7]

Declining CB that played behind an atrocious pass-rush. Idk how that’s overrating.

I haven't been around as much the past week or two but before the draft at least, many were insistent he was just fine.

Pass rush isn't going to mask his lack of speed. Maybe sometimes, but not a ton.

 

[DVontel]

I haven't been around as much the past week or two but before the draft at least, many were insistent he was just fine.

Pass rush isn't going to mask his lack of speed. Maybe sometimes, but not a ton.

He’ll have a lot more deficiencies be masked here than he did in Tennessee.

 

[BritCard]

I haven't been around as much the past week or two but before the draft at least, many were insistent he was just fine.

Pass rush isn't going to mask his lack of speed. Maybe sometimes, but not a ton.

He is just fine

 

[QuebecCard]

We all know how I feel. I think we're highly overrating Butler on this board.

No we don't. We simply conclude based on the most recent available data that he's better and cheaper than PP21.

 

[gmabel830]

Friendly reminder that Carlton Davis, Jamel Dean and Sean Bunting-Murphy were the top three cornerbacks for the Super Bowl champs.

(Yeah, I know, Tom Brady and whatnot)


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[Krangodnzr]

I haven't been around as much the past week or two but before the draft at least, many were insistent he was just fine.

Pass rush isn't going to mask his lack of speed. Maybe sometimes, but not a ton.

Giving up an 80 QB Rating isnt bad.

 

[juza76]

Giving up an 80 QB Rating isnt bad.

He decided that butler isn't good, so before season starts u can't change his mind

 

[football karma]

Giving up an 80 QB Rating isnt bad.

said differently, if your QB had a 80 rating for the year, you are talking about a Daniel Jones level QB

 

[Krangodnzr]

He decided that butler isn't good, so before season starts u can't change his mind

said differently, if your QB had a 80 rating for the year, you are talking about a Daniel Jones level QB

I don't he understands that in alot of situations in pro football, efficiency numbers matter a lot more than net numbers.

What the numbers on Butler shows is that the Titans defense was really bad at not stopping QBs from getting the ball out. There is a lot of volume there. But Butler's numbers show that he did a good job on an individual level.

 

[BritCard]

I don't he understands that in alot of situations in pro football, efficiency numbers matter a lot more than net numbers.

What the numbers on Butler shows is that the Titans defense was really bad at not stopping QBs from getting the ball out. There is a lot of volume there. But Butler's numbers show that he did a good job on an individual level.

Malcolm Butler 6.9 yards per target

Patrick Peterson 8.4 yards per target

I think that says all that needs to be said.

 

[Solar7]

Giving up an 80 QB Rating isnt bad.

He still gave up the most yardage and receptions of any CB. I'm sorry, I just can't get excited.

I've also watched the guy play, and for years and years thought he was slow and overrated. Now he's even slower and older.

You're literally hoping our front 7 cuts like 400 yards and 30+ receptions from his numbers just to match Patrick Peterson's production from last year, by volume. He's our #1 CB and guys like Metcalf are just gonna turn the jets on and run right by him.

But we'll see. Sure, he's cheaper than P2. But of course he'll be rushed to be defended because he's a Cardinal no matter what.

 

[Krangodnzr]

He still gave up the most yardage and receptions of any CB. I'm sorry, I just can't get excited.

I've also watched the guy play, and for years and years thought he was slow and overrated. Now he's even slower and older.

You're literally hoping our front 7 cuts like 400 yards and 30+ receptions from his numbers just to match Patrick Peterson's production from last year, by volume. He's our #1 CB and guys like Metcalf are just gonna turn the jets on and run right by him.

But we'll see. Sure, he's cheaper than P2. But of course he'll be rushed to be defended because he's a Cardinal no matter what.

So?

QBs on average had Daniel Jones level success against him.

You watched all of the Titans games?

I very much hope Butler doesn't have Petersons numbers. He sucked royally last year.

 

[Krangodnzr]

He still gave up the most yardage and receptions of any CB. I'm sorry, I just can't get excited.

I've also watched the guy play, and for years and years thought he was slow and overrated. Now he's even slower and older.

You're literally hoping our front 7 cuts like 400 yards and 30+ receptions from his numbers just to match Patrick Peterson's production from last year, by volume. He's our #1 CB and guys like Metcalf are just gonna turn the jets on and run right by him.

But we'll see. Sure, he's cheaper than P2. But of course he'll be rushed to be defended because he's a Cardinal no matter what.

And FYI I don't know if I trust your eyes on Butler because you watched Peterson last year and thought he was good enough.