Kerr on Doug and Wolf-Suns Want a Wing

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I think Lopez is a decent big man prospect. I expect him to put up 8~9 points 7~8 rebounds and 2 blocks given 30 mins a night.

Kerr sees their progress during practice, Suns have scouts and talent/potential evaluation programs that help them decide.
Dragic has been okay and showed good improvements with playing time, And I believe so is Lopez. He is too aggressive, tall and athletic not to atleast be a backup center or a rotation center.... Chris Andersen would be ideal maybe trade for him.
 

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I think Lopez is a decent big man prospect. I expect him to put up 8~9 points 7~8 rebounds and 2 blocks given 30 mins a night.

Kerr sees their progress during practice, Suns have scouts and talent/potential evaluation programs that help them decide.
Dragic has been okay and showed good improvements with playing time, And I believe so is Lopez. He is too aggressive, tall and athletic not to atleast be a backup center or a rotation center.... Chris Andersen would be ideal maybe trade for him.

I'd bet money that Lopez is working out against the prospects the Suns are bringing in for individual workouts.
 

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Did anybody even listen to this interview? Chris I appreciate all you do for this board and things, but I think your summation of this interview is fairly inaccurate and misleading.

Here is a summary of the interview:
-Doug and Wolf talked about their infatuation with Blair. Kerr said he likes him but mentioned his concern about his knees.
-He said that they would most likely remain at pick 14.
-Kerr said that with the age of the team, they have needs at every position including wing players.
-Said that he feels better about the depth at PG and Center because of last years draft.
-Said that they would definitely consider taking one of the good Point Guards if they slid to 14 and that it would be great to have Dragic fighting with another young point guard to be the eventual replacement for Nash.
-Said that they can't afford to be picky at 14 and that they need to take the best player available regardless of position.
-Said that HE DOES NOT THINK Lopez is ready to play heavy minutes and that he still has a lot to learn but they like his future.
-Said "We Can't sit here and say 'We are still championship contenders'". Therefor they have to explore all their options.
-Said they have talked with about 15 teams about Shaq but its all just conversation right now.
-Talked about how he was going to New York today to talk with Steve and his agent about the teams plans and talk extension. Said it is very much in the preliminary stages.
-Said they are looking for a combination of financial relief and basketball assets in any Shaq deal.
-Said they will draft a human being in the 2009 NBA draft.

What from that interview makes tearing Kerr apart justifiable?

Criticizing him for his basketball moves is fine, but tearing him apart over an interview that you haven't even listed to is pretty ridiculous.

http://ktar.net/blogs/arrr/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/steve-kerr-6-16-09.mp3
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first of all, lets look at what the suns are saying that they needs a "wing player". a player that will play on the outside and have the ability to spreed the floor. with both amare and shaq working on the inside and richardson being a driver over a jump shooter, we need a player to help open up the middle. also the fact that hill and barnes may not be back next year. the issue of having a player at the small forward who can shot the ball from deep became important. so i think that the suns will end up drafting earl clark.

now about the lopez, lets face facts he is better then joe kleine or some of the other big stiffs that we have had in the middle over time. heck in time i wouldnt be to shocked to see him turn into a mark west type player.
 

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first of all, lets look at what the suns are saying that they needs a "wing player". a player that will play on the outside and have the ability to spreed the floor. with both amare and shaq working on the inside and richardson being a driver over a jump shooter, we need a player to help open up the middle. also the fact that hill and barnes may not be back next year. the issue of having a player at the small forward who can shot the ball from deep became important. so i think that the suns will end up drafting earl clark.

now about the lopez, lets face facts he is better then joe kleine or some of the other big stiffs that we have had in the middle over time. heck in time i wouldnt be to shocked to see him turn into a mark west type player.


I really do hope they just take BPA at 14 (baring a move up). This year's draft is full of similar level NBA talent after the first few picks, each kid with different pros and cons. So just stack rank the top 30 players and take the best one still available from the list at 14.

If they go more with need at SF (which might be a mistake, depending on who falls), I think your analysis is correct - they need shooting from that position. We were spoiled with JJ and Marion. Both could play the SF and rebound and shoot from deep reliably.

I think besides Earl Clark, it makes sense they are taking a long look at Austin Daye. Kid is skinny as a rail, but he's tall for a SF and can shoot it all day long. The question is his build - in a few years is he Tayshaun Prince skinny or Manute Bol skinny?
 

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-Said they will draft a human being in the 2009 NBA draft.

That would be an improvement, since recently they have preferred only to "draft" a few million dollars here and there. And then there's Lopez, who is some sort of Cro-Magnon Man, so he doesn't count either.
 

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No, the #5 is if Amare is traded to Washington.

So that means no big at the number five spot, and you were correcting me on who Shaq had to be traded to for the number five spot?

I guess overall, I was wondering if we got the 5th pick, is there a good big at #5 regardless of where we get the pick from?
 

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I really do hope they just take BPA at 14 (baring a move up). This year's draft is full of similar level NBA talent after the first few picks, each kid with different pros and cons. So just stack rank the top 30 players and take the best one still available from the list at 14.

If they go more with need at SF (which might be a mistake, depending on who falls), I think your analysis is correct - they need shooting from that position. We were spoiled with JJ and Marion. Both could play the SF and rebound and shoot from deep reliably.

I think besides Earl Clark, it makes sense they are taking a long look at Austin Daye. Kid is skinny as a rail, but he's tall for a SF and can shoot it all day long. The question is his build - in a few years is he Tayshaun Prince skinny or Manute Bol skinny?
I was listening to an ESPN analysis of the kid, and they say he's got mad skills, but he will drop because of his build. He needs to go to a team in a situation like the Lakers. Jerry West was crucified for picking Kobe because he wasn't NBA ready. West knew the talent he had in Kobe and let him ride the pine for a long time until he was ready. Teams today don't have that patience. I think we should take the best available athlete, THAT fits our system! We should rank them based on our program, and then pick the best one on our list at 14. Don't worry about what the fans think. They booed Majerle's pick, no one liked the Marion pick, I remember when they got Hornacek and people were pissed about that, too. Of course that's when Jerry ran the show. I am hoping Kerr is learning the ropes. Danny Ainge struggled his first couple of years at GM, too. Isiah Thomas never seemed to get the hang of it. Hopefully Kerr ends up more like Ainge, and not like Thomas.
 

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So that means no big at the number five spot, and you were correcting me on who Shaq had to be traded to for the number five spot?

I guess overall, I was wondering if we got the 5th pick, is there a good big at #5 regardless of where we get the pick from?

http://www.draftexpress.com/

http://www.nbadraft.net/

They are your friends.

The Wizards have the 5th pick. Jordan Hill is likely to be the only high quality big there, and he's most definitely a 4 not a 5.
 

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That would be an improvement, since recently they have preferred only to "draft" a few million dollars here and there. And then there's Lopez, who is some sort of Cro-Magnon Man, so he doesn't count either.

Dude, do you know anything about the NBA? The most recent CBA explicitly specified that you have to have one cro-magnon on your 15 man roster at all times, and with trading Shawn Marion being a plausibility at the time, Kerr was in a difficult situation. Draft Lopez, or be stuck with Marion. What would you choose? (supposedly Kerr and Shawn's relationship had been irreparably strained when Kerr replied "Actually, no, Shawn, I don't know what you're saying" during contract negotiations in the summer of '07).

As far as I can tell, Steve Kerr has made one mistake as GM: he signed Terry Porter to serve as head coach. Other than that, he traded Shawn "Not even the Google Maps App on my iPhone can determine my location since I left Phoenix" Marion for an all-star center who everyone else thought was 3 years removed from being a valuable basketball player; and he traded a fat Frenchman who's play since Amare recovered from microfracture surgery makes the infantrymen of the French army who surrendered Paris to the Nazis look like the Spartans from "300" by comparison and an over-the-hill used-to-be-a-good-defender for one of the most athletic shooting guards in the league.

Fact is, if Steve Nash had the most significant floaters on this team, we might've won a championship this year. But Amare's retina came loose.
 

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IMO.. It's going to come down to if Jennings falls: then I think the suns would grab him..

Outside of that, I do think it will come down to Clark/Daye/Johnson... in that order

If you look at our roster, if we do indeed stand pat, a wing player would be our biggest need.. ofcourse all this can change, but right now, thats my call...
 

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(supposedly Kerr and Shawn's relationship had been irreparably strained when Kerr replied "Actually, no, Shawn, I don't know what you're saying" during contract negotiations in the summer of '07).

You're obnoxious, but that's a good line.
 

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yeah I got to agree.. I actually lost my drinking laughing out loud when I read that line.. Well Played Sir.. well played..
 

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Of course we need a wing....and a defensively capable PG.....and a SG who can defend....and a SF who can defend not named Grant Hill(I'd resign Barnes to role player money).....and a PF who can defend.....and a center who can defend.

If anything I'd say we've got a few pieces already in place here,they're all bench players but hell...it's something.
We need 3 new starters IMO so I'd say that taking the BAP is a wise strategy.

As of right now if Mojo is in control of this team(God forbid right?:lol:) I'm bringing back Amare,Barbosa,Dragic,Dudley,Amundson,Barnes and the Midget Clown.

Nash,gone. Shaq,gone. JRich,gone(unless he's willing to play behind Barbs). Hill,gone. If we can get a very good deal for Amare including first round pick(s)gone but I think we'll get screwed so he stays.
My only starters at this point are Amare and Barbosa. Draft BAP as long as he projects as a guy who can guard somebody and has some offensive upside.
 

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Of course we need a wing....and a defensively capable PG.....and a SG who can defend....and a SF who can defend not named Grant Hill(I'd resign Barnes to role player money).....and a PF who can defend.....and a center who can defend.

If anything I'd say we've got a few pieces already in place here,they're all bench players but hell...it's something.
We need 3 new starters IMO so I'd say that taking the BAP is a wise strategy.

As of right now if Mojo is in control of this team(God forbid right?:lol:) I'm bringing back Amare,Barbosa,Dragic,Dudley,Amundson,Barnes and the Midget Clown.

Nash,gone. Shaq,gone. JRich,gone(unless he's willing to play behind Barbs). Hill,gone. If we can get a very good deal for Amare including first round pick(s)gone but I think we'll get screwed so he stays.
My only starters at this point are Amare and Barbosa. Draft BAP as long as he projects as a guy who can guard somebody and has some offensive upside.

I nominate Mojo for GM. Make it happen.
 

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I'm all for BPA and as mentioned that's most probably a wing player.

It's not easy to decide between Earl Clark and Austin Daye. Will Clark be an underachiever? Do we have the patience to wait for Daye to develop? We're not really contenders any more so we should focus on developing talent and being patient with them, let them make mistakes on the court. I hope coach Gentry will continue that trend from last year.

On Daye's profile page it says he has the chance to be special. I want special players on the roster!!
 
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Did anybody even listen to this interview? Chris I appreciate all you do for this board and things, but I think your summation of this interview is fairly inaccurate and misleading.

Here is a summary of the interview:
-Doug and Wolf talked about their infatuation with Blair. Kerr said he likes him but mentioned his concern about his knees.
-He said that they would most likely remain at pick 14.
-Kerr said that with the age of the team, they have needs at every position including wing players.
-Said that he feels better about the depth at PG and Center because of last years draft.
-Said that they would definitely consider taking one of the good Point Guards if they slid to 14 and that it would be great to have Dragic fighting with another young point guard to be the eventual replacement for Nash.
-Said that they can't afford to be picky at 14 and that they need to take the best player available regardless of position.
-Said that HE DOES NOT THINK Lopez is ready to play heavy minutes and that he still has a lot to learn but they like his future.
-Said "We Can't sit here and say 'We are still championship contenders'". Therefor they have to explore all their options.
-Said they have talked with about 15 teams about Shaq but its all just conversation right now.
-Talked about how he was going to New York today to talk with Steve and his agent about the teams plans and talk extension. Said it is very much in the preliminary stages.
-Said they are looking for a combination of financial relief and basketball assets in any Shaq deal.
-Said they will draft a human being in the 2009 NBA draft.

What from that interview makes tearing Kerr apart justifiable?

Criticizing him for his basketball moves is fine, but tearing him apart over an interview that you haven't even listed to is pretty ridiculous.

http://ktar.net/blogs/arrr/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/steve-kerr-6-16-09.mp3
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Sorry I said "take it for what you will". He definitely said "We need to address the wing position soon"
 
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Basically he said that the Suns feel better about their depth and PG and Center due to Dragic and Lopez. He feels they need to address the wing position soon.

Hmmm...

I am sorry I missed the "drafting a real human being" line, that is classic.

Clearly we won't be drafting anyone related to Sam Cassell.
 

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Man I can't stand Doug.

sorry about that..continue on with your day.

Glad someone else feels this way, the guy is a total douche. It's super annoying the way he ****** himself out to any product that needs a spokesman for their lame commercial as well.


I agree but yesterday he did say that any Laker fan in Phoenix is stupid :D

Yeah, bravo real professional for a so called professional journalist. He also admited that until a few years back he was a Laker fan himself. He stopped following them because he doesn't like Kobe. It's fine when he liked them, but now that he doesn't every Laker fan in Phoenix is stupid.

He's a douche and I hope some day that someone fires him. Wolf is the whole reason that show is worth anything, Doug just talks over him with inane banter.
 

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Interesting! Good observation! I really think it happened when the Collangelos were forced out. You may not have liked them, but they knew basketball. They just couldn't get the right coin flips!

me? i loved the colangeli.
 

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I remember when they got Hornacek and people were pissed about that, too. .

who the hell was pissed with drafting horny? he was the 22nd pick in the second round. who gets mad about that selection?!?
 

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