Kevin McHale conjecture on Nash

[slinslin]

And how does it help us if we get nothing to rebuild?

Like I said I'd rather get a #20 pick and a future unprotected first round pick from some contender for Nash.

Depending on the quantity and quality of picks plus the chance of said contender to drop into the lottery in the future I'd take unattractive contracts in return for Nash too.

 

[slinslin]

Nash for Bynum would make sense if you ask me.

Not sure I would like to take on his contract with the injury history however. The Lakers might feel like they have to make a bold trade at the deadline to compete with Miami.

 

[The Commish]

A Nash trade is only as worthwhile as the pieces you get in return. Just because we should trade him and rebuild doesn't mean the offers will be their to justify pulling on the trigger.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

I stated in the original proposal that the Suns would also take back picks. Harris is only in the deal for financials, not because he is someone I think we should target. Such a trade gives the Suns picks and cap flexibility....

 

[The Commish]

I stated in the original proposal that the Suns would also take back picks. Harris is only in the deal for financials, not because he is someone I think we should target. Such a trade gives the Suns picks and cap flexibility....

Fair enough

 

[Covert Rain]

Nash for Bynum would make sense if you ask me.

Not sure I would like to take on his contract with the injury history however. The Lakers might feel like they have to make a bold trade at the deadline to compete with Miami.

I think I agree. Like McGrady, it's not if Bynum will get hurt. It's when.

 

[jagu]

Bynum plays half the season, who plays the other half? Pass on Bynum!!

 

[Yuma]

Bynum plays half the season, who plays the other half? Pass on Bynum!!

Lopez plays the first half, and Bynum has the second half. The Polish Hammer has to back up both injury and foul prone guys!

 

[Covert Rain]

Lopez plays the first half, and Bynum has the second half. The Polish Hammer has to back up both injury and foul prone guys!

The one thing wrong with the above comment:

We are still waiting for Lopez to play.

 

[jibikao]

Holy ****... NBA.com keeps talking about Nash and potential trade. Is this self-fulfilling proficiency?

One thing I know, Nash wants to retire as Suns.

However, this Nash-trade talk is getting crazy. Of all the scenarios I've read, Hawks seems like the best place for Nash to go. It's almost like when Nash came back here with all those young talented players. Switching Bibby with Nash is such an instant upgrade and it's not like Bibby's defense is better than Nash (I argue that Bibby is worse).

Oh well, I hope Nash stays and other Suns players can pull it together to prove the media wrong.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

Holy ****... NBA.com keeps talking about Nash and potential trade. Is this self-fulfilling proficiency?

One thing I know, Nash wants to retire as Suns.

However, this Nash-trade talk is getting crazy. Of all the scenarios I've read, Hawks seems like the best place for Nash to go. It's almost like when Nash came back here with all those young talented players. Switching Bibby with Nash is such an instant upgrade and it's not like Bibby's defense is better than Nash (I argue that Bibby is worse).

Oh well, I hope Nash stays and other Suns players can pull it together to prove the media wrong.

I don't see a damned thing on NBA.com. You got a link?

 

[Divide Et Impera]

However, I would support a Nash/Hill for Bibby/Crawford/#1 deal because Crawford expires at the end of this year, Bibby is a meager $6m/year (and not even worth that) who expires next year and Nash gets the team I wish we could have gotten here in PHX:

Nash-JJ-Hill-JSmith-Horford
Teague-Evans-Williams-Powell-Pachulia

They aren't the deepest team, but the starters are all high mpg guys anyways. But, that gives Nash and Hill a MUCH MORE legit shot at contending - though the depth would kill them in the ECFs, but that's on ATL to fix from that point....

 

[Magnus]

I don't see a damned thing on NBA.com. You got a link?

I think he might be referring to this :

nba.com/2011/news/features/scott_howard_cooper/01/14/suns-nash/index.html

 

[Cheesebeef]

Nash for Bynum would make sense if you ask me.

Not sure I would like to take on his contract with the injury history however. The Lakers might feel like they have to make a bold trade at the deadline to compete with Miami.

spoken like someone with ZERO clue of what the Lakers do. They pace themselves and know their biggest advantage over EVERYONE is having basically 3 seven footers who can all do anything. they'll ride bynum's knee into the ground just like they did last season.

why they would trade for nash, who needs the ball at all times to make an impact AND would hurt their perimeter D is just stupid.

 

[Chaplin]

spoken like someone with ZERO clue of what the Lakers do. They pace themselves and know their biggest advantage over EVERYONE is having basically 3 seven footers who can all do anything. they'll ride bynum's knee into the ground just like they did last season.

why they would trade for nash, who needs the ball at all times to make an impact AND would hurt their perimeter D is just stupid.

Agree again. We seem to agree on almost everything so far in 2011. Bizarro.

Any intelligent person who has watched the triangle offense would know unequivocally that it is not suited for a point guard like Nash. I mean, Ron Harper, John Paxson, Derek Fisher--those are the types of point guards that can play the triangle. Phil had one guy that didn't fit it--Gary Payton--and look what happened to that team. IMPLOSION

 

[desertdawg]

I think Bynam is the reason the Lakers lose to the Heat this year. With him not being in or only being half healthy most of the time puts extra miles on the older guys. He spends too much time in the suits and at the doctors office. Then it seems like they are always bringing him right before the play-offs. Kobe and the other two 7 footers will be beat up by the end of the season, the Heat will probably be rolling.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I think Bynam is the reason the Lakers lose to the Heat this year. With him not being in or only being half healthy most of the time puts extra miles on the older guys. He spends too much time in the suits and at the doctors office. Then it seems like they are always bringing him right before the play-offs. Kobe and the other two 7 footers will be beat up by the end of the season, the Heat will probably be rolling.

the Lakers have struggled so far this season... and are on pace for 60 wins at the halfway mark.

Come playoffs, with huge down-time between games, that team will be fine and will roll through the West because no one can match their size, even with a gimpy Bynum and they will KILL that paper thin Heat team. Only a healthy Celtics team can beat the Lakers IMO.

 

[desertdawg]

the Lakers have struggled so far this season... and are on pace for 60 wins at the halfway mark.

Come playoffs, with huge down-time between games, that team will be fine and will roll through the West because no one can match their size, even with a gimpy Bynum and they will KILL that paper thin Heat team. Only a healthy Celtics team can beat the Lakers IMO.

Celtics/Heat will be good TV. I hate both.

 

[Drop D]

WTF? That's weird.

Link 2 was something like adding Hill to NJN for Vujacic+, or something like that - I don't remember 100%.

Both trades got a green light from Trade Checker....

Vujacic and Dragic on the same NBA team? That would be funny! Maybe we could talk Horry into coming out of retirement while we are at it.

 

[leclerc]

I hope the owners ask Nash before they look to move him. I'd rather see him go somewhere and get into the playoffs than suffer any more here after all he's done for us.

 

[Lorenzo]

I don't think Nash wants to go back to Dallas and Mavs fans certainly don't want him back. And let's say Nash is back, who starts? Kidd of Nash? Unless Suns want to **** Nash over by trading him to Mavs just to get rid of him, I think Nash going to Mavs is less than 2%.

I wouldn't say that mavs fans don't want him back. I think that would probably be one of the best case scenarios for nash and mavs fans. the question is whether cuban/nelson figure that nash fits on this team....clearly they would have to part ways with one key guard on this team(terry or beaubois IMO). The question is if they are willing to do that. Terry has been a staple for this team for so long, but is inconsistent at times. He seems to get most of his offense off dirk in the 4th qtr. some days he plays well other days he disappears. beaubois is a wild card. a lot mavs fans(and cuban) seem to think that roddy is going to fix everything. I think he may give dallas a shot in the arm, but I wouldn't say he will certainly be a difference maker. I think dallas clearly needs to go for a scoring veteran who is consistent... to take some pressure of dirk. nash may fit that mold and does more than just score...many people think the mavs might land stephen jackson. It's also hard to judge dallas right now without letting panic set in... because the skid is more a factor of losing dirk, butler, and now chandler for a couple games as well.

back to nash.. I think at first some mavs fans were bitter when steve knocked us out of the playoffs the next year and won 2 mvps. but i think that was one of those cases of you don't know what you've got til it's gone and many people took for granted what nash did in dallas on a day by day basis. if they would have given him and dirk more time and surrounded them with the type of talent the mavs got later...it may have led to a title or then again dirk may have never propelled his game and it may not have. It would be nice to see nash return to dallas or to see him win a ring with any team for that matter.. I would love that.

 

[Mainstreet]

I wouldn't say that mavs fans don't want him back. I think that would probably be one of the best case scenarios for nash and mavs fans. the question is whether cuban/nelson figure that nash fits on this team. I think at first some mavs fans were bitter when steve knocked us out of the playoffs the next year and won 2 mvps. but i think that was one of those cases of you don't know what you've got til it's gone and many people took for granted what nash did in dallas on a day by day basis. if they would have given him and dirk more time and surrounded them with the type of talent the mavs got later...it may have led to a title.

I would have to think most Mavs fans would welcome Nash back (not that the Suns would let him go). Nash wanted to stay in Dallas and even gave Cuban a last chance to match the Suns offer. So it is not like Nash was a disgruntled star in Dallas who wanted to leave. IMO, the addition of Nash to most any team makes it better.

 

[Lorenzo]

I would have to think most Mavs fans would welcome Nash back (not that the Suns would let him go). Nash wanted to stay in Dallas and even gave Cuban a last chance to match the Suns offer. So it is not like Nash was a disgruntled star in Dallas who wanted to leave. IMO, the addition of Nash to most any team makes it better.

yeah...i think it was a very unique situation. mark cuban tried to low ball nash and it backfired on him. Maybe he was distracted or took nash for granted... as he was making all kinds of deals and inquiries in trades at that time(for shaq in particular). I think the fact that the mavericks had a disappointing first round KO that year may have had cuban reluctant to feel like he needed to give nash a raise or match dollars with phoenix...and as i recall at that time the scouting report on steve was that he was only a great regular season player and wore down in the playoffs...I think the mavs just lacked depth and had no centers on the roster... IDK...either way it's all in the past and I think it would be very intriguing to say the least to see nash return. Outside of going to miami or LA I can't think of many other deals that would be sweeter for steve. and i don't know that he fits on those teams...but then again i don't know how a kidd/nash pairing would work either.

 

[chickenhead]

A few slick passes against the Spurs would make a lot of Mavs fans forget what's left of their grievances. Besides, the Mavs got revenge in the WCF, anyway. Nash wanted to stay, went back to the team that drafted him, always spoke highly of the Mavs/Dallas, and has just generally been a credit to the league. I would hate to see him in another team's jersey, especially in the west, but if it does happen, the Mavs could be a nice thing in its own way.