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I agree to a point. I would rather a 2 nd and a 3rd than to keep both qbs . I think that would be a mess.
If SK chickenshits out and trades Rosen for less than a #1 it shows he is incompetent IMO.
I agree to a point. I would rather a 2 nd and a 3rd than to keep both qbs . I think that would be a mess.
Agree. Tomorrow, teams are gonna get really nervous.. especially after they select Murray. That's what I am assuming the Cards are thinking. No deals regardless until after they pick.. it could cause a massive overvaluing for Josh and drive up his value than if we sold him beforehand. Jmo
If SK chickenshits out and trades Rosen for less than a #1 it shows he is incompetent IMO.
Except picking Murray then lowers the cost of Rosen. Keim either blinks or he goes into the off-season with a divided mess in the locker room.
I want Q and as such means I want Rosen by default but Rosen is not worth a 1st round pick this year. Bad situation or not he did nothing to prove he deserved to be drafted where he was last year.
He's incompetent regardless of what he does with Rosen.
Cardinals must be expecting for some dominoes to fall or they would have announced this already.
I wouldn't be surprised with a trade down (still get Murray) and Rosen trade.
Interested to see how the Cardinals pull this one out.
If Kingsbury wants Murray, take him. It's really that simple.
Yeah they will at least when it comes to a qb in my opinion. They hired him knowing what his record was.I understand this sentiment but are we really going to let the new head coach, a guy with a 35-40 record in 6 college seasons, dictate the draft? Get input from him but how about he actually earns the right to dictate draft picks?
I understand this sentiment but are we really going to let the new head coach, a guy with a 35-40 record in 6 college seasons, dictate the draft? Get input from him but how about he actually earns the right to dictate draft picks?
Because we hired him based on his perspectives on the "QB he doesn't want."Yeah, we should. He's a former college coach. Why stick him with a QB he doesn't want?
Because we hired him based on his perspectives on the "QB he doesn't want."
Murray was playing baseball up until after we hired Kliff.
I mean, he's had a whopping five practices to "determine" that.If he has since determined Rosen ain't it, move on. IMO, it's no coincidence Murray chose football.
That's not how I see it.. Murray will have nothing to do with it imo. Especially when it comes to teams like the Giants, Redskins and Dolphins possibly.. all in that sweet spot that QBs on the board could dry up quickly. I liken it to what happened to us with Mahomes and Watson.Except picking Murray then lowers the cost of Rosen. Keim either blinks or he goes into the off-season with a divided mess in the locker room.
I want Q and as such means I want Rosen by default but Rosen is not worth a 1st round pick this year. Bad situation or not he did nothing to prove he deserved to be drafted where he was last year.
But why get the guy then, If he won't have significant input?... No one is saying he gets to pull the trigger. But you make the point yourself . He is a new coach with no NFL coaching experience, wouldn't you want to give him all the tools HE THINKS he needs to succeed? If that is Murray.. it seems contradictory to the hire in the first place. JmoI understand this sentiment but are we really going to let the new head coach, a guy with a 35-40 record in 6 college seasons, dictate the draft? Get input from him but how about he actually earns the right to dictate draft picks?
We don't know what was said when he was hired. The plan all along might have been Rosen AND Murray, unless someone blows us away with an offer to trade up/for.