Kobe and Rape

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here's the thing: i hate kobe, i hate the lakers, i hate rape. on the other hand, i love the suns, i love good jokes, i love consensual sex.

all that being established, can we please stop with the kobe/rape jokes?

don't get me wrong, i could give a flying fork about kobe or his itty bitty feewings. but we suns fans are better than these jokes. we hate the lakers, so clearly we are bright people. our smack should be fresh and intelligent. at this point, a kobe rape joke is the equivalent of someone being called "phil" when they promise pictures.

to a lakers' fan, a joke of this nature will not serve to smack them, but rather it garners a big :rolleyes:. think about it, suns fans, what's your reaction every time an idiot lakers fan posts this:



if you are like me, your reaction is this: :rolleyes: "brilliant retort, a-hole!"

for us, the suns fans' sake, can we please retire the kobe/rape jokes? we are better than this. we are smarter than this. join me, won't you?

I pretty much agree with this.
 

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POINT OF ORDER!

GBH = Grievous Bodily Harm, a fantastic hardcore band from England who were very popular with the kids back in the 80s.

GHB = gamma-Hydroxybutyric acid. It has many street names, including Gina, Georgia Home Boy, Soap, G, Juice, Fantasy, Liquid X, Gamma-OH and Jungle Juice, but never once has it been called GEE!
 

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POINT OF ORDER!

GBH = Grievous Bodily Harm--what Kobe did to that chick, as well as a fantastic hardcore band from England who were very popular with the kids back in the 80s.

GHB = gamma-Hydroxybutyric acid. It has many street names, including Gina, Georgia Home Boy, Soap, G, Juice, Fantasy, Liquid X, Gamma-OH and Jungle Juice, but never once has it been called GEE!
fixed it for you.
 

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That's THE RAPIST. Get it right!

I myself am not sure the definite article is appropriate here. Sure, Kobe is a rapist, but there are other rapists. It's like saying he's THESSHOLE--too much credit, for inventiveness among other things.

I semi-sincerely apologize, Jenna2861--anywhere else, I'm totally on your side, but in the Smack Shack, slurs never die, and Al Gore is a robot, not the central actor in an Oscar-winning film. [AL GORE FOR PRESIDENT!]
 
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I myself am not sure the definite article is appropriate here. Sure, Kobe is a rapist, but there are other rapists. It's like saying he's THESSHOLE--too much credit, for inventiveness among other things.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiqLSVDzIME

I semi-sincerely apologize, Jenna2861--anywhere else, I'm totally on your side, but in the Smack Shack, slurs never die, and Al Gore is a robot, not the central actor in an Oscar-winning film. [AL GORE FOR PRESIDENT!]

my issue is that the "kobe is a rapist" smack is boring and trite. i like my smack to be fresh and funny, much like suns fans. all i'm asking is that we elevate our smack to the level appropriate to our fandom.
 

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my issue is that the "kobe is a rapist" smack is boring and trite. i like my smack to be fresh and funny, much like suns fans. all i'm asking is that we elevate our smack to the level appropriate to our fandom.

Fresh funny smack is good, no doubt, but there's also pleasure in seeing the same old people answer the latest "Kobe is great--he scored 50" proclamation with the same old trite "yes, but he's a rapist." As for Suns fans, Bell's shot a dagger 3 at least 50 times--who wants to see one more? Me--I could handle 10 a gamewithout boredom just fine.

Kobe is "a rapist" because you don't like him, not because he was ever convicted, or even tried, for rape.

Well, frankly, I don't know if he's a rapist and neither does anybody but he and that girl. He made the typical move of the celebrity criminal [or, to be fair, arrested celebrity]--he threw in a legion of lawyers, a passel of PR types, and his army of goonfans, and screwed up the justice system so much that I would not trust any conclusion it came to. My response is to fall back on the second line of analysis: If it defends itself like a celebrity rapist (lies and all) and if its fans defend it like a celebrity rapist (death threats and all), it's a celebrity rapist. Take one step over the line, even to commit a little innocent adultery, and you put your aura in jeopardy forever. It's like commenting on his personality--at this point, I doubt even he can tell where his real personality ends and his PR aura begins. When he swings an elbow, he's not simply a A-hole, he's a celebrity A-hole--how many of the elbow swing stories are planted by his own PR? Who knows?
 

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Fresh funny smack is good, no doubt, but there's also pleasure in seeing the same old people answer the latest "Kobe is great--he scored 50" proclamation with the same old trite "yes, but he's a rapist." As for Suns fans, Bell's shot a dagger 3 at least 50 times--who wants to see one more? Me--I could handle 10 a gamewithout boredom just fine.



Well, frankly, I don't know if he's a rapist and neither does anybody but he and that girl. He made the typical move of the celebrity criminal [or, to be fair, arrested celebrity]--he threw in a legion of lawyers, a passel of PR types, and his army of goonfans, and screwed up the justice system so much that I would not trust any conclusion it came to. My response is to fall back on the second line of analysis: If it defends itself like a celebrity rapist (lies and all) and if its fans defend it like a celebrity rapist (death threats and all), it's a celebrity rapist. Take one step over the line, even to commit a little innocent adultery, and you put your aura in jeopardy forever. It's like commenting on his personality--at this point, I doubt even he can tell where his real personality ends and his PR aura begins. When he swings an elbow, he's not simply a A-hole, he's a celebrity A-hole--how many of the elbow swing stories are planted by his own PR? Who knows?

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Always glad to help with insomnia. On the other hand, if we could just wake up your brain so that you'd hate the Lakers, what an accomplishment--very sorry I failed with that.
 
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Fresh funny smack is good, no doubt, but there's also pleasure in seeing the same old people answer the latest "Kobe is great--he scored 50" proclamation with the same old trite "yes, but he's a rapist." As for Suns fans, Bell's shot a dagger 3 at least 50 times--who wants to see one more? Me--I could handle 10 a gamewithout boredom just fine.

first off, i'm not even going to address the "raja making 3's" is the same as repeating the same kobe rape joke; that's a ridiculous comparison, at best.

as for the other thing, here's the difference: if someone comes on the board and posts "kobe is great - he scored 50 points!", they are not doing so because one time kobe scored 50, and so they always bring it up. chances are, if someone says that, kobe got his 50 that night.

so, when some one's retort to that remark is "kobe is a rapist", the idiot lakers fan thinks he won that argument. it comes across as a desperate "non-answer", that is, something that someone throws out when they can't argue a point. it's the argument equivalent of "oh...yeah... well shuttup!" and it is the joke equivalent of anything this guy does:

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so, a better retort just for example (and one that'll really piss off lakers fans, which is, after all, the point) would be:

50 points and he still needs shaq to carry him to the championships!

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Always glad to help with insomnia. On the other hand, if we could just wake up your brain so that you'd hate the Lakers, what an accomplishment--very sorry I failed with that.

Your "takes" are just so boring and played out, that's all. Same thing, year after year. Blah blah, Kobe's a rapist. Maybe it plays at your local bar with the usual knuckleheads. Come up with a witty barb and I'll probably laugh. Hell, Donald and I come up with teh funnies all the time during Lakers games. "Ah man, Kobe's prison tats have him fired up tonight" or "Who's that chick?" (referring to Kwame Brown).

Your holier than thou stance is trite and I'd be willing to bet dollars to handjobs that the majority of the Suns roster have cheated on their SO and scored plenty of road skank. It's the NBA. It's a way of life. I dont particularly agree with it, but it is what it is.
 

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So, when someone's retort to that remark is "kobe is a rapist", the Lakers fan knows he won that argument. it comes across as a desperate "non-answer", that is, something that someone throws out when they can't argue a point. it's the argument equivalent of "oh...yeah... well shuttup!" and it is the joke equivalent of anything this guy does:

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Are you listening, Gee?
 

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first off, i'm not even going to address the "raja making 3's" is the same as repeating the same kobe rape joke; that's a ridiculous comparison, at best.

as for the other thing, here's the difference: if someone comes on the board and posts "kobe is great - he scored 50 points!", they are not doing so because one time kobe scored 50, and so they always bring it up. chances are, if someone says that, kobe got his 50 that night.

so, when some one's retort to that remark is "kobe is a rapist", the idiot lakers fan thinks he won that argument. it comes across as a desperate "non-answer", that is, something that someone throws out when they can't argue a point. it's the argument equivalent of "oh...yeah... well shuttup!" and it is the joke equivalent of anything this guy does:

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so, a better retort just for example (and one that'll really piss off lakers fans, which is, after all, the point) would be:

50 points and he still needs shaq to carry him to the championships!

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But isn't he a rapist?
 

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He is.. I dont know where people think time changes this.. Its not going anywhere..

He even admitted it himself:

"Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way I did," he said. "After months of reviewing discovery, listening to her attorney, and even her testimony in person, I now understand how she feels that she did not consent to this encounter.
 

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