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ESPN.com news services


EAGLE, Colo. -- The home of the alleged victim in the Kobe Bryant sexual assault case was broken into late last week, sources told the Vail Daily for Friday's editions.

According to the paper, a person or persons entered the house, but didn't take anything and were not disruptive. The sources did say that the intruders appeared to want the victim and her family to know they had been there, as several items were moved and the family's dogs were found locked in a bathroom.

The police report was made part of the sealed investigation file and is not available to the public, according to the paper. Acting Eagle Police Chief Gary Ward declined to answer whether the alleged victim's house was receiving additional security from his force.

The apparent break-in is the latest in a growing list of attempts to threaten and intimidate the victim, witnesses and others associated with the case, through the mail and by telephone calls.

On Friday, U.S. Attorney John W. Suthers and FBI special agent Phillip B.J. Reid announced the indictment and arrest of John William Roche of Iowa City, Iowa, on suspicion of making a threatening telephone call across state lines. Roche reportedly threatened to kill or injure the alleged victim. He was arrested Thursday without incident at his home.

Over the course of the five weeks since Eagle County district attorney Mark Hurlbert announced his decision to charge Bryant with felony sexual assault, the FBI has investigated a number of letters and phone calls received by his office and other Eagle County residents and authorities.

Bryant was arraigned on Aug. 6, and waived advisement of his rights and charges. He is scheduled to be back in Eagle County Court Oct. 9 for a preliminary hearing. At that time, Judge Frederick Gannett will decide whether there is enough evidence to send the case to trial.
 

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I wonder how all these people that are so convinced of his innocence and her guilt will react if he is convicted? Will they deny he had a fair trail no matter what? Why are they so convinced they "know" him? I am seriously concerned for her well being. I hope anyone and everyone the FBI catches pulling these pathetic moves is made an example of and receives full punishment. The ignorance surrounding this case just floors me! I have been trying to ignore the media at this point as there is nothing new about the case, but these outside actions are hard to brush off.



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"Kobe thing getting ridiculous "

Wasn't it ridiculous from the 1st nano-second?

Am I the only one who ABSOLUTELY doesn't care about the entire story?
Moreover I'm a bit upset that other people do care about it.
 

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Originally posted by hcsilla
"Kobe thing getting ridiculous "

Wasn't it ridiculous from the 1st nano-second?

Am I the only one who ABSOLUTELY doesn't care about the entire story?
Moreover I'm a bit upset that other people do care about it.

Are you saying you are upset that people are still posting messages about it, or that morons like the guy they arrested care about it?

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Am I the only one who ABSOLUTELY doesn't care about the entire story?

Possibly.

Moreover I'm a bit upset that other people do care about it.

It might be different if you lived in this country. The way our justice system works (or doesn't) is important to every resident of this nation.

Will guilt always be assumed when a non-white is accused of a violent crime? Or, can a defendent get justice if his or her assailant is a powerful celebrity? Knowing how your society works can valuable at the least, and often critical to survival.
 

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Originally posted by Joe Mama
Are you saying you are upset that people are still posting messages about it,
Yes, I'm because it takes away time from the (for me) more interesting themes.
Of course that's only a whining.



or that morons like the guy they arrested care about it?

I don't have any idea who was arrested and who was not so I can't answer this.
 

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Originally posted by elindholm
Am I the only one who ABSOLUTELY doesn't care about the entire story?

Possibly.

Moreover I'm a bit upset that other people do care about it.

It might be different if you lived in this country. The way our justice system works (or doesn't) is important to every resident of this nation.

Will guilt always be assumed when a non-white is accused of a violent crime? Or, can a defendent get justice if his or her assailant is a powerful celebrity? Knowing how your society works can valuable at the least, and often critical to survival.

Great post!
I have spent a great deal of my life involved in law. I sat in court rooms growing up and now am about to start Law school. Sometimes what appear to be minor cases are the most important. That said, how our society reacts to these cases tells us allot with where we stand as a Nation and how far we have come as a people.
 

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Originally posted by elindholm


It might be different if you lived in this country. The way our justice system works (or doesn't) is important to every resident of this nation.

Will guilt always be assumed when a non-white is accused of a violent crime? Or, can a defendent get justice if his or her assailant is a powerful celebrity? Knowing how your society works can valuable at the least, and often critical to survival.
OK, I understand this but it really disturbs me that even in Hungary every second columnist -who usually doesn't have any idea about NBA- feels that he definitely HAS to write an article about Bryant.
And if you would ask these journalists who is Kobe Bryant most of them would probably answer that he is a left winger of Real Madrid.
 
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Originally posted by hcsilla
Yes, I'm because it takes away time from the (for me) more interesting themes.
Of course that's only a whining.

Absolutely that's whining. You have the choice not to read/post on certain threads. Which begs the question, why have you even read this thread? :D
 

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Chaplin, you are such a genius!

Only for the record I did not read the article which you posted and that's the 1st (and the last) "Kobe Bryant in the hotel"-thread which I have clicked on.

I was simply curiuos how other posters are reacting if a poster doesn't care about the Bryant-file.
 

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Originally posted by elindholm
Am I the only one who ABSOLUTELY doesn't care about the entire story?

Possibly.

Moreover I'm a bit upset that other people do care about it.

It might be different if you lived in this country. The way our justice system works (or doesn't) is important to every resident of this nation.

Will guilt always be assumed when a non-white is accused of a violent crime? Or, can a defendent get justice if his or her assailant is a powerful celebrity? Knowing how your society works can valuable at the least, and often critical to survival.


If only the majority cared about this case in that regard. The Networks arguing our right to know? What a joke. They want a circus. I'm sure NBC is negotiating with Kobe's and the victim's camp right now to get exclusivity on the reality series....

Elindholm, honestly, you dont think that those noble quests for knowledge that you listed are why people are interested in this do you?
 
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Not to attack anyone but...

Remember in the US it is also popular to gather in front of prisons to celebrate when someone who got death penalty is being killed.
 

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Originally posted by hcsilla

And if you would ask these journalists who is Kobe Bryant most of them would probably answer that he is a left winger of Real Madrid.

What do the liberals have to do with this?!?!?! HA!

Good one hcsilla!
 

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Originally posted by slinslin
Not to attack anyone but...

Remember in the US it is also popular to gather in front of prisons to celebrate when someone who got death penalty is being killed.


About as popular as it is to gather in front of the same prison and protest. Whats yer point?
 

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Originally posted by KloD
Great post!
I have spent a great deal of my life involved in law. I sat in court rooms growing up and now am about to start Law school. Sometimes what appear to be minor cases are the most important. That said, how our society reacts to these cases tells us allot with where we stand as a Nation and how far we have come as a people.

Where are you going to go to Law School Klod?

Do you want to practice Law?

Stefan

P.S. From the first moment I walked in a cour room, I loved it.
 

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Originally posted by schutd
About as popular as it is to gather in front of the same prison and protest. Whats yer point?

Sorry, but gathering to celebrate death is just not the same as gathering to prevent it....
 

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Well duh. My point is that while slinslin seemed to be poitning our countired lust for blood (which I say I have to agree with) I felt the need to point out there is also a group whose aspirations are far more humane.
 

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Originally posted by SirStefan32
Where are you going to go to Law School Klod?

Do you want to practice Law?

Stefan

P.S. From the first moment I walked in a cour room, I loved it.

I will be going to Reed College in Portland, OR this Fall.
It will cost me as much as a house, but it has been my dream for as long as I can remember. I have been a programmer and got my undergrad in CS and Communications. I'm 34 and after being laid off from a job of 9 years, I decided it's time to follow up on this goal. Yes, I will practice law (at least I hope). I don't know what kind yet as I find so much of it interesting.
 

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Originally posted by schutd
Well duh. My point is that while slinslin seemed to be poitning our countired lust for blood (which I say I have to agree with) I felt the need to point out there is also a group whose aspirations are far more humane.

Agreed, missed your point.
 

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Originally posted by Seeds Of Hate
They are probably reacting by NOT clicking and participating, but hey, what do I know....
Again, my poor english command.

I meant that I'm that poster who doesn't care about Bryant's criminal and I was curious who do other posters react if I write that I'm not interesting at all.
 

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Originally posted by KloD
I will be going to Reed College in Portland, OR this Fall.
It will cost me as much as a house, but it has been my dream for as long as I can remember. I have been a programmer and got my undergrad in CS and Communications. I'm 34 and after being laid off from a job of 9 years, I decided it's time to follow up on this goal. Yes, I will practice law (at least I hope). I don't know what kind yet as I find so much of it interesting.

Hope it works out for you.
Pursue you dreams, Councelor;)
 

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Elindholm, honestly, you dont think that those noble quests for knowledge that you listed are why people are interested in this do you?

No, not for most. It's my primary reason to be interested, though. Of course, in the final analysis, I'm really not all that interested, and maybe that's why.

But hcsilla was disappointed that anyone was interested in this case, for any reason. I think there are legitimate reasons to be interested.

The Networks arguing our right to know? What a joke. They want a circus.

I agree completely. It's just snooping and gossiping, cynically (and unconvincingly) shrouded in the banner of the First Amendment. There's no reason that any documents about this case should be publicized in advance. Relevant public materials can be made available later, after the trial is over and the opportunity to corrupt it has passed.
 

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I was curious who do other posters react if I write that I'm not interesting at all.

I think you'd find general agreement on that point. ;)
 
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