Kolb Deal done - Including Contract

[Doc Cardinal]

You are right the Cards really had no choice. You might say they painted themselves out of a Corner.

Ba bump....ching......he'll be here all week folks.

 

[Pariah]

....who out there that is available is better?

Orton.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Orton.

Well, Miami decided it was Matt Moore...

 

[Stout]

Well, Miami decided it was Matt Moore...

Ouch! My buddy, the Dolphin's fan, will not be pleased.

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

Are you saying that wins and losses has little if anything to do with how the defense performs? Are you serious about that? I'm not holding Kolb to a W/L standard; I'm holding him to a performance standard.

Just know that your expecations for a guy we just traded a Pro Bowl cornerback and a 2nd round pick for would have made him the 23rd-ranked quarterback in the NFL in passing yardage. He'd be tied with Ryan Fitzpatrick. He'd trail Chad Henne by more than 300 yards. He'd trail Donnie McNabb by nearly 500 yards.

I guess we just have a different view on what acceptable performance from the quarterback position is.

Of course it has to do with how the defense performs. But I am not holding Kolb accountable for the defense just because we gave up DRC to get him. Thats a frayed comparison at best.

You said it would be a successful trade if Kolb had Dilfer like numbers but the Cards were a playoff team. So which is it? You are judging him on his performance or on Cards wins?

 

[kerouac9]

Of course it has to do with how the defense performs. But I am not holding Kolb accountable for the defense just because we gave up DRC to get him. Thats a frayed comparison at best.

You said it would be a successful trade if Kolb had Dilfer like numbers but the Cards were a playoff team. So which is it? You are judging him on his performance or on Cards wins?

With Dilfer-like numbers and the Cards in the playoffs Kolb's trade would be a success. But what would the Cards have to do for them to go 9-7 or 10-6 with 55% completions, 2800 yards, and an even TD:INT ratio? Take a guess. Do you expect that to happen this season?

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

With Dilfer-like numbers and the Cards in the playoffs Kolb's trade would be a success. But what would the Cards have to do for them to go 9-7 or 10-6 with 55% completions, 2800 yards, and an even TD:INT ratio? Take a guess. Do you expect that to happen this season?

Is that your prediction on his numbers this year: 55% completions, 2800 yards, and an even TD:INT ratio?

Just curious.

 

[kerouac9]

Is that your prediction on his numbers this year: 55% completions, 2800 yards, and an even TD:INT ratio?

Just curious.

I put my expectations down for Kevin Kolb here: http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/f4/on-record-for-kevin-kolb-168232.html

I'm thrilled with the extension that we got for him. As thrilled with the contract as I'm disappointed by the trade value.

That said, my minimum qualifications for success in 2011 are:

• 62% completion percentage or better
• 12 starts or better
• 3:2 TD:INT ratio
• 3500 yards passing
• 7.5 wins

He should be among the Top 12 in three of the five categories of completion percentage, YPA, TD, passing yardage, and/or passer rating. He shouldn't be elite (although I suppose he could be), merely above-average. This year.

 

[seesred]

After signing Kolbe does that mean we are not called cheap anymore? I've read enough posts on how cheap we are. The Fitz contract will put a exclamation mark on our not cheap front office!

GBR
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[SunsTzu]

After signing Kolbe does that mean we are not called cheap anymore? I've read enough posts on how cheap we are. The Fitz contract will put a exclamation mark on our not cheap front office!

GBR
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All teams have to spend enough to hit the cap floor. It's pretty easy to tell which teams could be considered cheap based on what they did when there was no cap last year.

 

[kerouac9]

All teams have to spend enough to hit the cap floor. It's pretty easy to tell which teams could be considered cheap based on what they did when there was no cap last year.

Not until 2012. Michael Lombardi was talking about this yesterday on the B.S. Report. And that number is for the entire league, not every team.

The Cards have a number of pending 2012 free agents they hopefully want to extend in-season, as well.

 

[desertdawg]

I put my expectations down for Kevin Kolb here: http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/f4/on-record-for-kevin-kolb-168232.html

I'm thrilled with the extension that we got for him. As thrilled with the contract as I'm disappointed by the trade value.

That said, my minimum qualifications for success in 2011 are:

• 62% completion percentage or better
• 12 starts or better
• 3:2 TD:INT ratio
• 3500 yards passing
• 7.5 wins

He should be among the Top 12 in three of the five categories of completion percentage, YPA, TD, passing yardage, and/or passer rating. He shouldn't be elite (although I suppose he could be), merely above-average. This year.

I'd say those are very realistic quals for a good first year, and I'm hoping he does that and more but I'm with you, it's gonna take a minute.

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

I put my expectations down for Kevin Kolb here: http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/f4/on-record-for-kevin-kolb-168232.html

I'm thrilled with the extension that we got for him. As thrilled with the contract as I'm disappointed by the trade value.

That said, my minimum qualifications for success in 2011 are:

• 62% completion percentage or better
• 12 starts or better
• 3:2 TD:INT ratio
• 3500 yards passing
• 7.5 wins

He should be among the Top 12 in three of the five categories of completion percentage, YPA, TD, passing yardage, and/or passer rating. He shouldn't be elite (although I suppose he could be), merely above-average. This year.

I guess my expectation are a little lower:

60% completion percentage
3:2 TD:Int Ratio
3000 yards passing
7 wins