Kolb is still a Cardinal

[Duckjake]

Although I'm still hardly sad we got rid of DRC. He has still been terrible just like his last season here.

But still part of the cost of acquiring Kolb. DRC just got a one year $5 million contract so at least Denver thinks he has value.

Wow $5 million. That's a lot to pay for a "show me" deal.

And we could have had Russell Wilson with that 2nd round pick.

 

[WildBB]

Although I'm still hardly sad we got rid of DRC. He has still been terrible just like his last season here.

No big loss, esp. @ what he commands.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Cards didn't pay Shaun King or Jeff Blake $20 million or whatever it is the Cards have given Kolb so far is what I think he is talking about. There's also a huge amount of dead money if they cut Kolb if I remember correctly. $10-$12 million. Plus DRC and a 2nd round draft pick.

So cost + production could make Kolb the worst acquisition in Cardinal history.

.

This...

 

[az jam]

IMO Kolb won't be a Cardinal as of 1PM Friday.

 

[WildBB]

And we could have had Russell Wilson with that 2nd round pick.

Prob. would just have taken Flemming a round earlier.

 

[desertdawg]

IMO Kolb won't be a Cardinal as of 1PM Friday.

He would be gone already, we are done "releasing" players. People gonna get mighty upset tomorrow, I've been wearing my Kolb jersey for three days now. I fear if I take it off before that deadline, I might never get to wear it again. Everybody here secretly loves them some Kevin Kolb, the only QB to take us to 4-0 while beating N.E. in N.E.

I'll stop now, I know a lot of people want the man gone, they say his sternum is permantly detatched from his body (I wonder how he is still alive), he's one hit away from his last acceptable concussion, he sucks, he gets paid too much, but truth is we need something resembling skill at the QB position....and that's why I'm wearing the jersey.

 

[JeffGollin]

Who the bleep knows? It wouldn't surprise me if Steve Keim were directed to "don't pull the trigger on Kolb until you explore every opportunity for getting something back for him - even if it's a future 7th round pick or an Early Bird Coupon for Golden Corral."

Another possibility - They made a commitment to Kolb that they'd try to do anything reasonable to keep him so long as they can afford him. What may be happening is a giant game of "chicken" with nobody blinking.

Both scenarios suggest that the Cards will wait til the very last minute & nothing will be resolved until minutes before the roster bonus deadline. My guess - they cut him at that time.

 

[WildBB]

Who the bleep knows? It wouldn't surprise me if Steve Keim were directed to "don't pull the trigger on Kolb until you explore every opportunity for getting something back for him - even if it's a future 7th round pick or an Early Bird Coupon for Golden Corral."

Another possibility - They made a commitment to Kolb that they'd try to do anything reasonable to keep him so long as they can afford him. What may be happening is a giant game of "chicken" with nobody blinking.

Both scenarios suggest that the Cards will wait til the very last minute & nothing will be resolved until minutes before the roster bonus deadline. My guess - they cut him at that time.

He'd have to accept what Stanton signed for and then duke it out in TC, imo.

 

[Buckybird]

He would be gone already, we are done "releasing" players.

Who says Dawg?

I don't see any reason that Kolb is here past tomorrow because I don't think the team would've signed Stanton & tendered Hoyer too. And doesn't this team draft a kid at some point in this draft? I would bet that Lindleys in the unemployment line & Skelton might be also. At least 2 have to go & probably 3 at some point.

Kevin Kolb is fired sometime tomorrow, bet the ranch brotha!!!

 

[desertdawg]

Who says Dawg?

I don't see any reason that Kolb is here past tomorrow because I don't think the team would've signed Stanton & tendered Hoyer too. And doesn't this team draft a kid at some point in this draft? I would bet that Lindleys in the unemployment line & Skelton might be also. At least 2 have to go & probably 3 at some point.

Kevin Kolb is fired sometime tomorrow, bet the ranch brotha!!!

It's obvious why we signed Stanton and tenderized Hoyer...because they never want to see Skelton or Lindley on the field ever ever again. We used 3 QBs last year, and if Kolb makes it all the way through the season then I'll head outside to watch the pigs fly. If we plan on competing, Kolb is the best bet. Whiz was Whiztarded with QBs, I bet Arians is ok with Kolb at the helm, we know Mikey is. Mikey said one of the things he was looking for in a HC was someone who would be cool with Kolb here, Mikey said they haven't given up on Kolb yet and this recent activity (or lack of) suggests Mikey meant it. Kolb gets paid to much for other teams to pick him up considering he only plays about 6 or 7 games a season.

Kolb will be in the stadium for our home opener, I bet he gets boo'd too.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

• Could Kevin Kolb be the New York Jets’ Week 1 starter? Signs and sources point to ‘Yes’

 

[Cardiac]

Why hasn't Kolb been cut yet???? I don't think Mikey was all you have to keep him but it was suggested to try and make it work......if possible.

At this point the bucks owed Kolb and how much more he brings to the party than Stanton tells me he gets cut. Hoyer showed just about as much as Kolb.

Thinking of who has been cut and the fact that Kolb is still getting crazy money makes me wonder.

Part of me wonders how last season would have went if Kolb could have stayed healthy. I honestly believe the Cards would have won at least 9 games, probably 11. Is this the reason he hasn't been cut yet?

Think about how BAD the Oline was when Kolb was the starter and we were still winning games. What could Kolb have accomplished when Potter was inserted and Massie started playing well?

 

[CardsFan88]

Part of me wonders how last season would have went if Kolb could have stayed healthy. I honestly believe the Cards would have won at least 9 games, probably 11. Is this the reason he hasn't been cut yet?

Think about how BAD the Oline was when Kolb was the starter and we were still winning games. What could Kolb have accomplished when Potter was inserted and Massie started playing well?

That is a thought, the thing that I then think about is the fact that all QB's regardless if they have the best OL in history or what we've had the last few years still get hit.

Which means to me Kolb even behind a good line is still going to go down with an injury. Maybe he makes it a bit deeper into the season than last year, or maybe he still goes down in the first couple of games. With Kolb imo, you simply don't know what small medium sized hit that looks like nothing will put Kolb out for the year.

I think he's gone, but it wouldn't surprise me if he's kept around.

 

[Cardiac]

That is a thought, the thing that I then think about is the fact that all QB's regardless if they have the best OL in history or what we've had the last few years still get hit.

Which means to me Kolb even behind a good line is still going to go down with an injury. Maybe he makes it a bit deeper into the season than last year, or maybe he still goes down in the first couple of games. With Kolb imo, you simply don't know what small medium sized hit that looks like nothing will put Kolb out for the year.

I think he's gone, but it wouldn't surprise me if he's kept around.

Kolb's history is that he is injury prone. Thing is he took a POUNDING for 4 plus games before getting injured. Stood strong and tough in the pocket and took serious HITS. So yes eventually it caught up to him and he went down.

I'm not sure that he is fragile or just snake bit. I know enough to realize he can't be counted on to last the entire season but I don't believe it's a given he won't.

 

[CardsFan88]

Kolb's history is that he is injury prone. Thing is he took a POUNDING for 4 plus games before getting injured. Stood strong and tough in the pocket and took serious HITS. So yes eventually it caught up to him and he went down.

I'm not sure that he is fragile or just snake bit. I know enough to realize he can't be counted on to last the entire season but I don't believe it's a given he won't.

But caught up to him isn't exactly something that should happen in 4 games. If memory serves correct the first few games the OL wasn't that bad (comparatively), then all hell broke loose.

But you have to look at the type of injuries he had and how he got them.

He had his foot thing, which can reoccur. He had multiple concussion, which are a major concern and reoccur. Now with his detached sternum, something tells me that can happen easier as well. Plus anything else that might happen on any given Sunday.

Many of the injuries you just go...what? How did that injure him? But it did.

At some point a guy is labeled injury prone because they suffer injuries and Kolb imo fits that bill to a T.

It's not like the guy played 16 games and took a pounding for 2-3-4 years in a row and then got some injuries.

I understand what you are saying and technically I agree, that there could be some scenario or star aligning that allows it to happen, I just don't see it as reasonably possible. That in the NFL you need to employ QB's that must be seen as reasonably possible to survive the rigors without getting injured. Especially with the amount of coin and capspace he takes up.

But I get what you're saying. I don't think it's really worth the risk and if we don't cut him now, we'll be in a situation next year that instead of being clear we'd need to take a hit next year. I say get it over with now and we can ensure we have the capspace to say re-sign PP.

 

[desertdawg]

But caught up to him isn't exactly something that should happen in 4 games. If memory serves correct the first few games the OL wasn't that bad (comparatively), then all hell broke loose.

But you have to look at the type of injuries he had and how he got them.

He had his foot thing, which can reoccur. He had multiple concussion, which are a major concern and reoccur. Now with his detached sternum, something tells me that can happen easier as well. Plus anything else that might happen on any given Sunday.

Many of the injuries you just go...what? How did that injure him? But it did.

At some point a guy is labeled injury prone because they suffer injuries and Kolb imo fits that bill to a T.

It's not like the guy played 16 games and took a pounding for 2-3-4 years in a row and then got some injuries.

I understand what you are saying and technically I agree, that there could be some scenario or star aligning that allows it to happen, I just don't see it as reasonably possible. That in the NFL you need to employ QB's that must be seen as reasonably possible to survive the rigors without getting injured. Especially with the amount of coin and capspace he takes up.

But I get what you're saying. I don't think it's really worth the risk and if we don't cut him now, we'll be in a situation next year that instead of being clear we'd need to take a hit next year. I say get it over with now and we can ensure we have the capspace to say re-sign PP.

Man you had some good stuff in there, but then you went all FOX NEWS hyper-bowl. Kolb's contract or space will not effect our chances of re-signing PP, no one player will. These new guys cut ties like it aint no thing because to them it aint no thing but a football decision. There has been no team functions, no kid's birthday parties or even practices. Keeping Kolb is a football decision. I think it's smart to make these choices right away and it also gives the players more time to find other gigs. They've done that for everyone so far, but there just going to dangle Kolb out there until the end of the Ebay auction and then cancel it right before it ends?

He is injury prone no doubt, but the only upsides are the injuries are always different, not just the same old collarbone thing or re-occurring knees. He continued to lead the League in sacks taken for multiple weeks even after he was hurt, but people still barked happy feet.

He aint the most durable or the best, but he's miles ahead of Hoyer and Stanton, and oceans ahead of Skelton and Lindley. Man I can't wait for 1:00 to get here, this jersey is getting ripe!!!

 

[CardsFan88]

Man you had some good stuff in there, but then you went all FOX NEWS hyper-bowl. Kolb's contract or space will not effect our chances of re-signing PP, no one player will. These new guys cut ties like it aint no thing because to them it aint no thing but a football decision. There has been no team functions, no kid's birthday parties or even practices. Keeping Kolb is a football decision. I think it's smart to make these choices right away and it also gives the players more time to find other gigs. They've done that for everyone so far, but there just going to dangle Kolb out there until the end of the Ebay auction and then cancel it right before it ends?

He is injury prone no doubt, but the only upsides are the injuries are always different, not just the same old collarbone thing or re-occurring knees. He continued to lead the League in sacks taken for multiple weeks even after he was hurt, but people still barked happy feet.

He aint the most durable or the best, but he's miles ahead of Hoyer and Stanton, and oceans ahead of Skelton and Lindley. Man I can't wait for 1:00 to get here, this jersey is getting ripe!!!

I guess you're right, I formed that thought last season about possibly losing PP due to cap constraints (unlikely but possible) and forgot to update it with the new front office and coach style. My bad.

 

[PJ1]

NFL Network saying he will be released before the 17th.

 

[desertdawg]

NFL Network saying he will be released before the 17th.

Most of the stuff I've read all leads back to Rappaport and his sources. The funny thing is, in many of these "Kolb Release" articles they state that Kolb is the reason Whiz and Graves got canned. Eventhough Mikey has been a Kolb jocker before and even more so after the Whiz departure. Whiz lost his job because his offense was horrible year after year no matter who was playing QB and it was only getting worse. Kolb showed flashes, has a decent completion %, but he is not that guy that can lead the League in sacks all season long.

A couple million before the 17th, or Kolb is a goner. It trips me out thinking he is cool with back-up city, when he can stay and start here if the deniro is copasetic for both sides. Even from Kolb's point of view, he can be the #1 here, and agree on whatever money. I think his agent is just playing some hardball and our new front of the house does not like that one bit. If I was Kolb I would want to stay.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

It's fairly hilarious that there are people that actually believe that Kolb will be on the team this year.

Zero percent chance, good riddance. Worst acquisition of all time.

 

[AzStevenCal]

It's fairly hilarious that there are people that actually believe that Kolb will be on the team this year.

Zero percent chance, good riddance. Worst acquisition of all time.

Agreed. I thought Kolb played very well on that last drive against Seattle to start the 2012 season. Other than that, I've not seen anything from him to make me think he can win games regularly. And that's not even considering his injury issues. I'm willing to give the new regime time to put their plan in place but if their plan includes Kevin as the starter, I'm going to pack my bags and head for the dark side.

Steve

 

[desertdawg]

It's fairly hilarious that there are people that actually believe that Kolb will be on the team this year.

Zero percent chance, good riddance. Worst acquisition of all time.

It's fairly hilarious that "people" think there is a zero chance, considering he hasn't been cut already for financial purposes or new direction purposes, when clearly this new regime has moved swiftly in both areas.

It's like when it doesn't rain everyday, and then someone posts..."I can understand how anybody thinks it won't rain tomorrow". It's gonna rain tomorrow alright, it's gonna rain 2 million dollars on Kolb's head, and if it doesn't then the tank is on like donkey kong so either way we have it...folks are gonna be upset. Not me though, some "people" can just kick back and see the positives to both sides.

If your saying than just say it...

"I would rather tank this year than watch another year of Kevin Kolb." Get tee shirts made, but don't act like you want to win then, not with Hoyer and Stanton being the other options. The Cardinals know this, maybe they just haven't made up their mind yet. One thing for sure, you won't catch me saying there is a "zero" % chance that Kolb is released, or a zero % chance that he won't, because that would be "hilarious".

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

It's fairly hilarious that there are people that actually believe that Kolb will be on the team this year.

Zero percent chance, good riddance. Worst acquisition of all time.

The only possible reasons as to why Kolb hasn't been cut yet are that either the FO wants to A) trade him (which is likely impossible), B) they want to restructure his contract (either to keep him or make him tradeable) or C) they just want to keep him on his current contract (highly unlikely IMO).

The fact that he hasn't been cut already leads me to believe that there is a solid chance they want to restucture his contract and keep him around.

 

[Shane]

The only possible reasons as to why Kolb hasn't been cut yet are that either the FO wants to A) trade him (which is likely impossible), B) they want to restructure his contract (either to keep him or make him tradeable) or C) they just want to keep him on his current contract (highly unlikely IMO).

The fact that he hasn't been cut already leads me to believe that there is a solid chance they want to restucture his contract and keep him around.

Yep.. No other reason to hold on.. None whatsoever.

 

[kerouac9]

The idea that this management team believes that somehow Kevin Kolb can be rehabilitated or something should tell you EVERYTHING you need to know about this management team.