Kolb is still a Cardinal

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

if BLOK is not released tomorrow, Keim and company lose all credibility.

 

[THESMEL]

paid

They don't owe him early release- He has not been upgraded, At what were paying him they can wait until the last minute in good conscious.

I still think Leinart is better than anyone we have- sue me.

Why hasn't Kolb been cut yet???? I don't think Mikey was all you have to keep him but it was suggested to try and make it work......if possible.

At this point the bucks owed Kolb and how much more he brings to the party than Stanton tells me he gets cut. Hoyer showed just about as much as Kolb.

Thinking of who has been cut and the fact that Kolb is still getting crazy money makes me wonder.

Part of me wonders how last season would have went if Kolb could have stayed healthy. I honestly believe the Cards would have won at least 9 games, probably 11. Is this the reason he hasn't been cut yet?

Think about how BAD the Oline was when Kolb was the starter and we were still winning games. What could Kolb have accomplished when Potter was inserted and Massie started playing well?

 

[Cheesebeef]

The idea that this management team believes that somehow Kevin Kolb can be rehabilitated or something should tell you EVERYTHING you need to know about this management team.

if they don't cut him, I agree. but I think he's only got a couple more hours as a Cardinal left in him.

 

[kerouac9]

if they don't cut him, I agree. but I think he's only got a couple more hours as a Cardinal left in him.

Oh, I expect they'll cut him. I guess they're just being ***** about it, or burying the story of this until the media doesn't have an audience to report it to (i.e., at 1 p.m. on Friday--like they did with Beanie).

But if they somehow KEPT Kolb and his gargantuan Cap number, or even at a reduced number? Basically forecloses any chance of this team competing, wasting the prime of Fitz and Campbell, maybe Washington.

 

[desertdawg]

if BLOK is not released tomorrow, Keim and company lose all credibility.

I thought they already did, how many times can they lose it?

 

[desertdawg]

Oh, I expect they'll cut him. I guess they're just being ***** about it, or burying the story of this until the media doesn't have an audience to report it to (i.e., at 1 p.m. on Friday--like they did with Beanie).

But if they somehow KEPT Kolb and his gargantuan Cap number, or even at a reduced number? Basically forecloses any chance of this team competing, wasting the prime of Fitz and Campbell, maybe Washington.

So if the Cards keep Kolb for one more year, than it will ruin Fit's, Cambell's, and D-Wash's careers? I didn't know you was a drinker bro...

 

[kerouac9]

So if the Cards keep Kolb for one more year, than it will ruin Fit's, Cambell's, and D-Wash's careers? I didn't know you was a drinker bro...

I have been drinking, but it would be emblematic of how ill-considered this coaching staff and personnel group is. That decision in and of itself wouldn't essentially secure the Cards a 15-33 record for the next three years, but the process that allowed for that decision to be enacted would suggest that it's likely.

 

[Dayman]

The preemptive freak out about a move that may or may not happen is an interesting approach. Seems unnecessarily stressful to me.

If Kolb is on the team at this time tomorrow, I'll be right back here to criticize the FO. Until then, I'm going to sit back and enjoy what I still believe to be our last night with him on the roster.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I think if Kolb re-structures, under the Cards terms, which is unlikely, that he'll be on the team. No matter what has been said, he's still better than Stanton or Hoyer.

However, with talk of the Jets and how quickly Cassel was signed, I see no reason why Kolb would agree to the Cards terms and will be let go.

 

[GuernseyCard]

I think if Kolb re-structures, under the Cards terms, which is unlikely, that he'll be on the team. No matter what has been said, he's still better than Stanton or Hoyer.

However, with talk of the Jets and how quickly Cassel was signed, I see no reason why Kolb would agree to the Cards terms and will be let go.

 

[clif]

So we would rather cut the guy that won 4 games last year for the guys that were apart of a record setting flop and another guy that ride the bench for 6 years ? Wow. They could at least restructure and have an open competition.

 

[BillsCarnage]

I still think Leinart is better than anyone we have- sue me.

At what, holding a clipboard or throwing a check down?

 

[RugbyMuffin]

At what, holding a clipboard or throwing a check down?

At being injured and overrated.

 

[Duckjake]

At what, holding a clipboard or throwing a check down?

I agree with him. I have always thought the Cards would have been better off keeping Leinart at least for 2010. Better for Public Relations and I just don't see how it could have been any worse than the Parade of incompetence at QB that followed his release. The offense only scored 219 points in 2010.

PLUS Leinart playing brought a lot of really good looking women to the stadium.

But we all know it was a personality conflict with CKW and lack of work by Leinart and doesn't matter because now both of them are gone.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

I thought I read somewhere yesterday, the Cards get more cap relief if Kolb is a June 1st cut, rather than cutting him by today....they can pay his $2 million today, but save a lot more against the cap, by cutting him June 1st.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

 

[RON_IN_OC]

I thought I read somewhere yesterday, the Cards get more cap relief if Kolb is a June 1st cut, rather than cutting him by today....they can pay his $2 million today, but save a lot more against the cap, by cutting him June 1st.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

Yup, just checked Urbans article from last night night. The way I read it, if Kolb is cut today the Cards save 7.5 million, but they save 11.5 million after June 1st....so, pay $2 million to save $4 million.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

 

[PDXChris]

Yup, just checked Urbans article from last night night. The way I read it, if Kolb is cut today the Cards save 7.5 million, but they save 11.5 million after June 1st....so, pay $2 million to save $4 million.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

Jurecki said that the $4 million moves to next year as a cap hit. In reality, it is the same hit, but you reduce your cap number next year instead of this year. With what is on the market, there is not reason to take that approach.

 

[Duckjake]

Yup, just checked Urbans article from last night night. The way I read it, if Kolb is cut today the Cards save 7.5 million, but they save 11.5 million after June 1st....so, pay $2 million to save $4 million.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

Don't they have the ability to designate 1 or 2 released players as "June 1st Cuts"? If true that's the best of both. Save the $2 million as well.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Don't they have the ability to designate 1 or 2 released players as "June 1st Cuts"? If true that's the best of both. Save the $2 million as well.

I have no idea. Just going off of Urbans article. I think we need our resident capologist to break this down.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

 

[PDXChris]

Don't they have the ability to designate 1 or 2 released players as "June 1st Cuts"? If true that's the best of both. Save the $2 million as well.

Jurecki said you could do that too. He thought they would do that to Colledge if they were to do it.

 

[Duckjake]

There is a provision that allows teams to designate two pre-June 1 releases for a post-June 1 Salary Cap treatment. This allows players to be released earlier and have an opportunity to sign with another team before they have spent all of their free agent money.

This is from http://nflsalarycapguru.com/

 

[Chopper0080]

Sounds like he is gone today. Rejected restructuring of his contract. What a shock.

 

[kerouac9]

Don't they have the ability to designate 1 or 2 released players as "June 1st Cuts"? If true that's the best of both. Save the $2 million as well.

You can, but here's the deal:

The player hits the open market, and can sign a new deal. BUT, you have to carry his FULL salary cap hit into the offseason, and it halves on June 1. Further, whatever contract action in the contract (i.e., roster bonuses) goes into effect as if he were still on the roster.

This would be the rare offseason situation where the Cards would literally pay Kolb $2M just to go away.

But it's all academic now.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Eff BLOK...Cards paid you over 20 million dollars for crap, crap, and more crap. Thank god he is gone, and again at least 1 year to late...