Kyler- Harrison

[slanidrac16]

Chase was
Jefferson was
Puka was

Why can’t Marv?

I have the answer but you won’t like it.

Would you like to guess?

 

[602 Native]

You do realize that if he could simply win contested catches, that would be transcendent, right? Tons more TDs and yards.

This is my biggest issue.

You don’t get wide open holes in the defense most of the time. There is almost always someone in your kitchen.

 

[Russ Smith]

And the board consensus, even though a few of us disagreed, was that he was a wasted pick and trash. The board was wrong then. They’re wrong again.

I didnt think he was trash and I don't think Marv is trash either. I do think Marv was overrated and has underperformed for us.

I think it's not just him, Kyler and Petzing have a part too. But I think the idea that he was this polished NFL ready WR star, has been shown to be false.

 

[QuebecCard]

That’s why I specified age. Year two for Fitz is the biologically appropriate comp to Harrison’s rookie year.

Well, three cheers for biological age. I'm more concerned with how he does on the field in year two of his NFL career.

 

[602 Native]

I have the answer but you won’t like it.

Would you like to guess?

K1 has zero to do with CHJ not getting separation, or winning 50/50 balls.

Dude runs lazy routes and displays zero fire.

 

[QuebecCard]

Chase was
Jefferson was
Puka was

Why can’t Marv?

Marv hasn't been, and neither has Odunze, a favourite for some on this board, for a myriad of reasons that many have enumerated.

Fitz wasn't in year one, either.

 

[602 Native]

Marv hasn't been, and neither has Odunze, a favourite for some on this board, for a myriad of reasons that many have enumerated.

Fitz wasn't in year one, either.

While Fitz was a blue chipper coming out he didn’t have Marvs pub or fanfare.

I truly hope he will be great next season.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Marv hasn't been, and neither has Odunze, a favourite for some on this board, for a myriad of reasons that many have enumerated.

Fitz wasn't in year one, either.

Fitz had the worst combo of QBs ever, came on to a team that already had a #1 option at a time, all while the league was nowhere to close to where it is now as far as passing game is concerned, AND the league played 1 fewer game per season.

Other than that, it’s a spot on comparison.

 

[Chopper0080]

That was a dumb take then. MHJ came in with a lot more expectation and while he's been a good rookie, he was supposed to be transcendent.

I know you didn't come up with this term, but I hate it in regards to these rookie prospects. Talk about setting up players to be disappointments.

 

[Chopper0080]

Au contraire, very highly aware of Fitz' rookie stats. That is the baseline, and the numbers are close rn.

But apparently you don't have eyes if you think that Marv is playing anywhere near his potential with the drops, the weak effort on 50/50 balls, not understanding how to come back to the ball, etc. That's not the transcendent player fans and analysts were expecting to see. You're fooling yourself if you think otherwise.

Add that to your encyclopedia of things you are naive about.

Here is where I take a silver lining approach. If this version of MHJ can put up these numbers...an improved version should only improve of those.

 

[Chopper0080]

While Fitz was a blue chipper coming out he didn’t have Marvs pub or fanfare.

I truly hope he will be great next season.

Slight disagreement on Fitz as a prospect. He was considered a very high level prospect who only lacked top end speed.

 

[BirdGangThing]

mhj went for 130 yards and 2 tds IN THE FIRST FREAKIN QUARTER of a game during his ROOKIE FREAKIN SEASON

he is who we thought he was - he's not the problem

 

[AZ Native]

mhj went for 130 yards and 2 tds IN THE FIRST FREAKIN QUARTER of a game during his ROOKIE FREAKIN SEASON

he is who we thought he was - he's not the problem

No doubt was not a problem in that quarter, he was great. But there are 59 other quarters.

 

[602 Native]

I have the answer but you won’t like it.

Would you like to guess?

Cooper Rush threw for 3 TDs against Panthers defense.

Our passing scheme is the worst in the NFL. If you think all our passing issues are on K1 I got news for you.

 

[Stout]

Cooper Rush threw for 3 TDs against Panthers defense.

Our passing scheme is the worst in the NFL. If you think all our passing issues are on K1 I got news for you.

Come back when Kyler proves he hasn't turned into a noodle-armed Checkdown Charlie. It's clear to see that there are plays to go downfield; he instead stands there, or flushes out of the pocket, and either dumps it off, takes the sack, or throws it away. It's a conservative offense, but Kyler significantly inhibits the passing scheme, too.