Larry Fitzgerald wants Michael Floyd in Arizona

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Peter King of SI.com talked to Fitzgerald over the weekend and reports that Fitzgerald badly wants the Cardinals to draft Floyd with the 13th overall pick.

Fitzgerald isn’t the type to complain about his teammates, but it’s obvious that every opposing defense makes stopping Fitzgerald the first, second and third priority in the game plan, and any receiver in that situation would like a receiver on the Cardinals who can take some of the coverage off him. So it’s no surprise that Fitzgerald would like to have Floyd, his fellow Minnesotan, as a teammate.

What we’ll have to wait until Thursday night to see is whether Floyd is still available at No. 13, and whether the people who make the decisions in Arizona have the same viewpoint on Floyd as Fitzgerald.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/23/larry-fitzgerald-wants-michael-floyd-in-arizona/
 

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I have a lot of respect for Larry - as a person, a player and a fixture in AZ. If I were in his position (& if I felt Floyd were that good) I'd probably say the same thing.

But he is speaking from the viewpoint of a WR who needs help from a productive #2 WR (not a bad team priority either). You have to respect that.

But - looking at the bigger picture - it is quite possible the Cardinal FO will decide that Player X is a better overall player than Floyd or that Player Y will help the team more than would Floyd.

As Larry no doubt would concede - He's paid to catch passes and score TD's. The FO's job is to "buy the groceries & stock the pantry."
 

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Peter King of SI.com talked to Fitzgerald over the weekend and reports that Fitzgerald badly wants the Cardinals to draft Floyd with the 13th overall pick.

Fitzgerald isn’t the type to complain about his teammates, but it’s obvious that every opposing defense makes stopping Fitzgerald the first, second and third priority in the game plan, and any receiver in that situation would like a receiver on the Cardinals who can take some of the coverage off him. So it’s no surprise that Fitzgerald would like to have Floyd, his fellow Minnesotan, as a teammate.

What we’ll have to wait until Thursday night to see is whether Floyd is still available at No. 13, and whether the people who make the decisions in Arizona have the same viewpoint on Floyd as Fitzgerald.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/23/larry-fitzgerald-wants-michael-floyd-in-arizona/

As a WR, why wouldn't you want a guy who will prevent teams from constantly dobling you? No surprise here IMO.
 

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Ah hell yeah


Just got interesting. On one hand, he might be gone by 13, id say its a 50/50 shot. On the other hand, if he IS available, but say Reiff is available, what do they do?

Dont think Larry doesnt have influence over decisions. Maybe not directly, but the FO better take his thoughts STRONGLY into consideration. Lets be real, they screwed Larry last year. He said we needed a #2 last year, and the FO failed to get him one.He mustve been so frustrated this year with Cant-get-open Roberts and Doucet.

This is fantastic. Floyd is my dream pick anyways, hopefully this makes it that much more a possible reality.

Im curious whether wed be able to trade back AND get Floyd. Man, thatd be sweet as warm apple pie.
 

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I wish they would add more context of the conversation. They always make Larry Fitzgerald out to be the one running the team. I'm not saying it's a bad idea it just seems to me all they're doing is selling sports entertainment journalism. Of course that's their job, but it doesn't always make Larry sound like he's looking out for the entire team and just himself. I truly don't believe he's that kind of person and I seriously doubt he worded it exactly that way. It was probably a small portion of a series of questions, and that was one juicy part of it taken out of context.



However, the draft is drawing near and I for one am very excited.

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Ah hell yeah


Just got interesting. On one hand, he might be gone by 13, id say its a 50/50 shot. On the other hand, if he IS available, but say Reiff is available, what do they do?

Dont think Larry doesnt have influence over decisions. Maybe not directly, but the FO better take his thoughts STRONGLY into consideration. Lets be real, they screwed Larry last year. He said we needed a #2 last year, and the FO failed to get him one..

The screwed him so hard last year it wasnt even funny...............

The Arizona Cardinals signed Larry Fitzgerald to an eight-year deal that could pay the star receiver as much as $120 million, making it one of the richest deals in the NFL.
The agreement, with guarantees near $50 million, is by far the biggest in the franchise's history and could keep the star receiver with the team through the 2018 season.
 

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High risk reward ratio on Floyd with injury and character issues.

With injury/durability issues at starting QB and both running backs, this may not be the year to roll the dice on Floyd's durability IMO.
 

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The screwed him so hard last year it wasnt even funny...............

The Arizona Cardinals signed Larry Fitzgerald to an eight-year deal that could pay the star receiver as much as $120 million, making it one of the richest deals in the NFL.
The agreement, with guarantees near $50 million, is by far the biggest in the franchise's history and could keep the star receiver with the team through the 2018 season.


Larry wouldve made that anywhere he went.

Dont be so ungrateful. the dude is a saint for staying with this consistently POS team.



Yeah, The Cards screwed Fitz. :sarcasm:

Fitz screwed himself by lobbying for Kolb.

Kolb was the best option out there and the Cards went and got him. He looked good at the time.

This board has so many captain hindsights its not even funny.
 

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High risk reward ratio on Floyd with injury and character issues.

With injury/durability issues at starting QB and both running backs, this may not be the year to roll the dice on Floyd's durability IMO.

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Guy once twisted his ankle and once broke his collarbone. Hardly reocurring injuries.

Guys durability is phenominal. One of his biggest pluses is that hes extremely physical. Hes like a bigger Q
 

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Larry wouldve made that anywhere he went.

Dont be so ungrateful. the dude is a saint for staying with this consistently POS team.





Kolb was the best option out there and the Cards went and got him. He looked good at the time.

This board has so many captain hindsights its not even funny.

There were many on this board that predicted Kolb's season -he has never proven anything, is a constant injury risk, and is crappy than what the Cardinals already had.

He did not look good at the time, nor does he now.
 

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We're an 8-8 team and what we do with this draft could put us over the edge. I hate the idea of drafting a WR in the first because we won't be a better team for it.
 

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There were many on this board that predicted Kolb's season -he has never proven anything, is a constant injury risk, and is crappy than what the Cardinals already had.

He did not look good at the time, nor does he now.

He looked fine at the time.

This is what im talking about. You guys all want Tom Bradys in free agency. Kolb was the best option available. Did he look great? No. Did he look bad? No. How could he? There wasnt enough data on him to say one way or the other. You guys are so fickle. Everything cant be a success. You take shots, some pan out, some dont. I didnt think Marshall was going to be any good when we signed him. There were plenty on this board who were freaking out excited when we sighed Heap.
 

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never wanted kolb. start skelton. Will back anyone but if Kolb starts I expect to not be an awesome offensive team.
 

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He looked fine at the time.

This is what im talking about. You guys all want Tom Bradys in free agency. Kolb was the best option available. Did he look great? No. Did he look bad? No. How could he? There wasnt enough data on him to say one way or the other. You guys are so fickle. Everything cant be a success. You take shots, some pan out, some dont. I didnt think Marshall was going to be any good when we signed him. There were plenty on this board who were freaking out excited when we sighed Heap.

Well maybe 26-48 1 TD and 2INT and 18-36 with 1 TD and 3INT in his last two games with the Eagles should have at least raised a red flag or four.

The best option available would have been to save $65 million dollars and gone with Double Duece. Don't see how it could have been worse than the 1-6 record the Cards got for all that money.
 

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I would not be upset with drafting Floyd but I still feel that there is Blackmon being the best WR playmaker in this draft and then you have everyone else
 

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Later is a great player and person, but as a talent evaluator he is marginal : Kolb.
 

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He looked fine at the time.

This is what im talking about. You guys all want Tom Bradys in free agency. Kolb was the best option available. Did he look great? No. Did he look bad? No. How could he? There wasnt enough data on him to say one way or the other. You guys are so fickle. Everything cant be a success. You take shots, some pan out, some dont. I didnt think Marshall was going to be any good when we signed him. There were plenty on this board who were freaking out excited when we sighed Heap.

Yes if cards would've traded just the second round pick and paid Kolb considerably less you may have a point. I know that I and many others on this board were driving the " no to Kolb bus" from the jump.
 

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Well maybe 26-48 1 TD and 2INT and 18-36 with 1 TD and 3INT in his last two games with the Eagles should have at least raised a red flag or four.

The best option available would have been to save $65 million dollars and gone with Double Duece. Don't see how it could have been worse than the 1-6 record the Cards got for all that money.

If we had gone with Skelton, Larry Fitzgerald would not be on this team. We would likely be looking at drafting Floyd because otherwise he would not have re-signed and would probably be playing for someone like San Francisco right now.

I'm not saying that Kolb is leagues beyond Skelton, but he had to be signed to keep Fitz happy, and thus re-sign. People also seem to forget that Kolb played well against Dallas during our push in the second half of the season.

Anyways, back on topic - Floyd would fit well across from Fitz. If Reiff isn't available, he should probably be the pick. (Or I'd be happy with Kuechly, DeCastro, and Ingram.)
 

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Kolb was the best option out there and the Cards went and got him. He looked good at the time.

This board has so many captain hindsights its not even funny.

Alex Smith and Matt Hasselback humbly and respectfully disagree.

Kolb was so good that the Eagles shipped him off at the first opportunity. After Stewart Bradley, Jorrick Calvin, and Kevin Kolb, I'd be happy if the Cards blocked Philly from their phone plan from now on.
 

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If we had gone with Skelton, Larry Fitzgerald would not be on this team. We would likely be looking at drafting Floyd because otherwise he would not have re-signed and would probably be playing for someone like San Francisco right now.

I'm not saying that Kolb is leagues beyond Skelton, but he had to be signed to keep Fitz happy, and thus re-sign. People also seem to forget that Kolb played well against Dallas during our push in the second half of the season.

Anyways, back on topic - Floyd would fit well across from Fitz. If Reiff isn't available, he should probably be the pick. (Or I'd be happy with Kuechly, DeCastro, and Ingram.)

Link?

$120 million dollars?!?!!? Guarantees near $50 million! That Fitz would have left is an Urban Myth. Just like Levi Brown suddenly became this great OT once he became a free agent.

Nobody is dumb enough to pay a backup QB $65 million just to keep a WR happy. Why not just tell Larry "here we'll give you another $65 million and you play with Double Duece". Do you think he'd say no?
 
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There were lots of unknowns, but there were plenty of questions about Kolb that were known. Many posters on the board saw those questions and thought it was way too much to give up in terms of players (including this draft pick in a stout class) and contract given such unknowns. I agreed emphatically with them. Sure I hoped he did good, but the guy either is or isn't the guy based on everything, and I felt it wasn't even close to a sound judgment given those questions.

We also don't know what Fitz would have done. Our chances with just Skelton would have been less to keep him, but there were other options out there, and if we told Fitz that we just didn't think Kolb was worth the risk yet were willing to pay big money and draft picks plus players for a guy they thought was would have helped our chances.

I for one (but not only) even mentioned the concussion in limited playing time, and thought we gave up a pick, player, and huge contract to a guy that might have concussion issues which could render any discussion of talent moot. That's a huge unsure in my book. It's just not common for a guy who is going to start for a decade plus to get a concussion that early. Heck it was the first game of the season.

Given all of that, I felt he wasn't worth it. I think a front office has to always be making smart moves, and Kolb was not a smart move. Front offices that are good would convey to any player in a similar position to Fitz and say, just wait, we're on the ball, and looking, but Kolb isn't it. We gave up too much for real for the unknown.

Sure he could have worked out, and once in you hope he works out, but hope doesn't change a players ability or cures him of concussion proneness. But just because there is a chance, doesn't mean you take it, because someone can find a chance with anyone. Sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and wait for a better shot.

We are only guessing that Fitz would have gone somewhere else without Kolb on board. He wants a good QB throwing to him, but you can't manufacture one, he is either there or not. We sure paid like there was one, and we didn't get it, which only hurts our ability to get one now or later.

Personally I was willing to try Smith or Hasselbeck as stop gaps. I was also willing to go with Skelton if nothing materialized so that we could give him a shot being better than stunting his growth in favor of overpaying for the wrong guy. Forcing a choice because of being scared is no way to run a front office. I'm not saying they were 'scared', but really Fitz's contract should of had little impact. I can understand the issue to show him you're trying, but you don't have to follow through to show him you're trying.

I could roll with Blackmon too, I just see imo that Floyd is a perfect fit for us. I don't see how we get to choose between the two, thus if any of the two are on the board I would love if we drafted either.

It seems to me Floyd has a nice combination of traits. Some like Boldin, some like Larry. Our staff has used both very effectively. But I also wouldn't mind Blackmon. I'm also not set on any position to be drafted, I just hope we get a stud that we can use for many years. But Floyd if not my #1 choice, is definitely top three, of a list that is literally more than a dozen long that I'd be happy with.
 
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