Latest wacky draft day plan

[Russ Smith]

San Diego takes Fitz, Raiders take Gallery, leaving us sitting at 3 with Manning on the board. We trade the pick to the Giants for the 4th pick and their 2nd rounder #34(which favors us by 160 points on the value chart). They take Manning.

At 4 we take Mike Williams.

If as predicted Sean Taylor slides due to his "poor workouts and tackling questions", we then package the #33 and #34 pick and trade that to the Jets at #12 or Buffalo at #13, and take Taylor with the pick. Why would either of them want to trade out of the first round for 2 high 2nd rounders? Because that's the only way my plan works that's why!!!! Technically those 2 picks are worth 1140 points, the 12th pick is 1200, 13th is 1150 so on the value chart it's a reasonable deal. In THIS draft it may not be since there may be guys on the board then they really want more than 2 extra 2nd round picks but work with me here.

So we end up with the offensive ROY Mike Williams, and the DROY in Sean Taylor like we could have had this year with Quan and Suggs if they'd just listened to anybody but me and drafted Suggs!

Let's see if I can get profootballtalk to list this in their rumor section

 

[BACH]

Trading up for non-need player??? Nah...

 

[imaCafan]

No! No! No! We then trade #4 to Cleveland for their #7 and #37. We still take either Williams or Taylor, then trade #34 & #37 to, say, Tampa. Then, if we took Williams, take Wilfork or D. Hall. Then, with the #33 we take W. Poole or Olshansky. WHEW!!!!

 

[Mr. Boldin]

If Taylor is there for Buffalo they will take him in a heartbeat.

 

[DevonCardsFan]

San Diego takes Fitz, Raiders take Gallery, leaving us sitting at 3 with Manning on the board. We trade the pick to the Giants for the 4th pick and their 2nd rounder #34(which favors us by 160 points on the value chart). They take Manning.

At 4 we take Mike Williams.

If as predicted Sean Taylor slides due to his "poor workouts and tackling questions", we then package the #33 and #34 pick and trade that to the Jets at #12 or Buffalo at #13, and take Taylor with the pick. Why would either of them want to trade out of the first round for 2 high 2nd rounders? Because that's the only way my plan works that's why!!!! Technically those 2 picks are worth 1140 points, the 12th pick is 1200, 13th is 1150 so on the value chart it's a reasonable deal. In THIS draft it may not be since there may be guys on the board then they really want more than 2 extra 2nd round picks but work with me here.

So we end up with the offensive ROY Mike Williams, and the DROY in Sean Taylor like we could have had this year with Quan and Suggs if they'd just listened to anybody but me and drafted Suggs!

Let's see if I can get profootballtalk to list this in their rumor section

Completely love that idea!!!!! Best draft scenario I have seen yet, end up with Williams and Taylor, that would be the best ever!!!!!!

 

[Lex]

I'm with you Russ-

I would love to package second round picks to get 2 first rounders. I think it is possible too.

But I don't want the same players as you. I'd like to see us get one of the receivers, then DeAngelo Hall.

I'm afraid Mike Williams at 20 years old isn't done growing. He's already 6'5 230, what if he grows 2 inches in the next couple years? Of course, we could try him at defensive end I guess?

 

[SECTION 11]

I'm with you Russ-

I would love to package second round picks to get 2 first rounders. I think it is possible too.

But I don't want the same players as you. I'd like to see us get one of the receivers, then DeAngelo Hall.

I'm afraid Mike Williams at 20 years old isn't done growing. He's already 6'5 230, what if he grows 2 inches in the next couple years? Of course, we could try him at defensive end I guess?

Harold Carmichael was 6'-7". He was unstoppable in the redzone. Might be fun.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/CarmHa00.htm

 

[Lex]

Section 11-

Would you be agreeable to Stephen Jackson and DeAngelo Hall if we traded down?

The more I think about it, I like that idea better than taking one of the Williamses.

Williamses ... is that right?

 

[SECTION 11]

Section 11-

Would you be agreeable to Stephen Jackson and DeAngelo Hall if we traded down?

The more I think about it, I like that idea better than taking one of the Williamses.

Williamses ... is that right?

I'd be damn happy with that.
We need a punt returner. Karl Williams only returned 15 last year and was pretty much unspectacular at it (and he's a horrible receiver).
And we definately need some speed at corner.

 

[Cardiac]

No! No! No! We then trade #4 to Cleveland for their #7 and #37. We still take either Williams or Taylor, then trade #34 & #37 to, say, Tampa. Then, if we took Williams, take Wilfork or D. Hall. Then, with the #33 we take W. Poole or Olshansky. WHEW!!!!

Very very close. I would prefer we keep any extra 2nd rders we get and take the BPA(s) in that round.

So rd1 at the 7th pick would be either. Taylor or one of the Williams (Mike or Roy). Then at 33 CB or DT. Then at 34 DT or CB or OG or TE. Then at 37 .....

This draft is sooooo deep that even pick 37 may be a player who was graded as a 1st rounder.

 

[Southpaw]

Why would the Giants trade up one spot with Manning, Ben and Rivers still on the board? THe Giants are in as bad shape as the Cardinals are. They need that #2 pick. I don't see Browns doing it either. A QB hungry team lower down would, but you guys would fudge your undies.

 

[john h]

San Diego takes Fitz, Raiders take Gallery, leaving us sitting at 3 with Manning on the board. We trade the pick to the Giants for the 4th pick and their 2nd rounder #34(which favors us by 160 points on the value chart). They take Manning.

At 4 we take Mike Williams.

If as predicted Sean Taylor slides due to his "poor workouts and tackling questions", we then package the #33 and #34 pick and trade that to the Jets at #12 or Buffalo at #13, and take Taylor with the pick. Why would either of them want to trade out of the first round for 2 high 2nd rounders? Because that's the only way my plan works that's why!!!! Technically those 2 picks are worth 1140 points, the 12th pick is 1200, 13th is 1150 so on the value chart it's a reasonable deal. In THIS draft it may not be since there may be guys on the board then they really want more than 2 extra 2nd round picks but work with me here.

So we end up with the offensive ROY Mike Williams, and the DROY in Sean Taylor like we could have had this year with Quan and Suggs if they'd just listened to anybody but me and drafted Suggs!

Let's see if I can get profootballtalk to list this in their rumor section

Russ you got to lay off the vino buddy or take up chess.

 

[john h]

Harold Carmichael was 6'-7". He was unstoppable in the redzone. Might be fun.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/CarmHa00.htm

Sounds like R.C. Owens.

 

[cardsunsfan]

Completely love that idea!!!!! Best draft scenario I have seen yet, end up with Williams and Taylor, that would be the best ever!!!!!!

Why didn't anybody look at my draft I had the same ideas! Ugghhh!!!

 

[khilari]

Lets just stop dreaming because we know that whatever we think is not going to happen because the team is still being run by Bidwill's. They might end up trading with the Giants to Move down and swap the 2nd rounders because it saves them money.

 

[40yearfan]

Lets just stop dreaming because we know that whatever we think is not going to happen because the team is still being run by Bidwill's. They might end up trading with the Giants to Move down and swap the 2nd rounders because it saves them money.

Good grief, they're crawling out of the woodwork today. When did you start following this team, yesterday?

 

[Ohio Cards Fan]

Russ,

In your scenario, why would the Giants trade up one spot when both Roethlisberger and Manning are available. They would at least be guaranteed one of the two. The only way they would trade up is if one of the QB's is selected in the top 2 picks.

I wouldn't mind trading down with a team like Cleveland, who may want to pursue the QB route. We could get their first round selection at #7 and their second round selection at #37. With the number 7 pick we could take Roy Williams. Tall and the fastest of the top wide outs. He would complement Boldin well. Fitz is a lot like Boldin. I'm not saying I would mind having two Anquans on the team, but Williams is a different style receiver that could complement Boldin well. Then with two high second round choices, we could address other holes that need to be filled.

I would be thrilled if the draft unfolded this way!

 

[Ohio Cards Fan]

Khilari,

That may have been true for Bill, but Michael runs the show right now. What he says goes. Let's give him a chance and stop the tired old blame game of ownership. I really think they will do whatever it takes to put a winner on the field.

 

[Cards Czar]

Russ good insite but I think Eli will go #1. Bolden will go #2 and that leaves us M. Williams or Gallery. NYG love Gallery so I think that they would trade up one spot so CLeveland doesnt get the pick. NYG will trade the #4 and the #34 for our #3. Now Cleveland might trade up with us and take Big Ben. Why?
if they dont take him watch Pitt trade up and get him. We could get the #7 and there #37. With our #7 we could get either Taylor, M.Williams,Wolfork.
With the #33 get a CB( D Strait) with the #34 take a DT (D. Washington) and with the #37 you take a C/G (J. Grove). with the 3 rounder you go for another CB in J.Thomas. Now is this a true draft to come? No but you never know what goes on during Draft Day....

 

[Southpaw]

Khilari,

That may have been true for Bill, but Michael runs the show right now. What he says goes. Let's give him a chance and stop the tired old blame game of ownership. I really think they will do whatever it takes to put a winner on the field.

Not me, .... until they do.

SHOW ME THE MONEY

 

[john h]

No! No! No! We then trade #4 to Cleveland for their #7 and #37. We still take either Williams or Taylor, then trade #34 & #37 to, say, Tampa. Then, if we took Williams, take Wilfork or D. Hall. Then, with the #33 we take W. Poole or Olshansky. WHEW!!!!

You guys need to go to Vegas for a week and get all this gambling out of your system. Lay off the cheap whiskey.