LeBron says he "Spoiled" Cleveland Fans

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I have a radical thought: maybe the Celtics are better than most people realiize. It's just a though.

That's very reasonable. In the recent memories, no team has won the title with just one superstar without another all-nba star on the team. Even Hakeem had Drexler. Extreme chemistry and coherence of roster could even win it all without a bonefide superstar, as we saw with Pistons and Celtics recently. That's where our hope lies this post season.:D
 

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IMO lebron is bothered.. The cavs tore it up all season long just to go and trade blowouts? hmm.. I dont know but something is very fishy here and people need to but LBJ some slack here. He is human, not a quadruple double untouchable machine people expect him to be.

Shaq has got nothing to do being in the way/ a wrong trade or deal. LOOK AT THEIR RECORD. Shaq was brought in for ONE purpose only.. That is the Orlando Magic and Dwight Howard, that is all.. Right now Orlando is wating for them so IDK wtf LeBron and co are waiting for.. This is lebrons last chance at a title for another 2-3 years IMO.

My bet: Cleveland takes the next two games..
I want: Boston to win so Orlando can spank them and make their way to another Finals where VC finally wins a championship :)

In the end, this seems all way too familiar to me.. Regular season smash teams like Boys vs Men.. Finish best in the NBA, get a player on your roster MVP and a whole bunch of awards.. Come playoffs you go bye bye. Happened to the suns and cavs, mess up for different reasons.. Both times coaching had something to do with it.
 

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It's good news for Suns fans if the Celtics win this series. Without LeBron James, Stern won't be crapping his pants trying to arrange a Kobe/LeBron Finals.

A rematch of the '76 Finals might actually tempt him.
 

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It's good news for Suns fans if the Celtics win this series. Without LeBron James, Stern won't be crapping his pants trying to arrange a Kobe/LeBron Finals.

A rematch of the '76 Finals might actually tempt him.

What about Suns-Magic?

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It's good news for Suns fans if the Celtics win this series. Without LeBron James, Stern won't be crapping his pants trying to arrange a Kobe/LeBron Finals.

A rematch of the '76 Finals might actually tempt him.



Over Lakers/Celtics? No way man. :D
 

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Over Lakers/Celtics? No way man. :D

Yes way man. Celtics already took that one lately. And 11 times is enough. You might not be aware of this, but a lot of the basketball watching world is sick to death of Kobe Bryant. :D
 

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Yes way man. Celtics already took that one lately. And 11 times is enough. You might not be aware of this, but a lot of the basketball watching world is sick to death of Kobe Bryant. :D

Ratings and jersey sales say otherwise. :D
 

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Hey, LeBron ... I am a Witness.

Can't wait to see you take your ball and run home.

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A lot of the basketball watching world loves the Lakers, sad but true. And did you happen to see Kobe in China? Dude was like a demigod over there, it was bizarre.

Perhaps instead of the basketball watching world you meant the basketball watching Arizonans...that I agree with.
 

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Make that four bad games in seven years.
 

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A lot of the basketball watching world loves the Lakers, sad but true. And did you happen to see Kobe in China? Dude was like a demigod over there, it was bizarre.

Perhaps instead of the basketball watching world you meant the basketball watching Arizonans...that I agree with.

China? That was ages ago. Perhaps you haven't been following the news this year... Steve Nash helped light the Olympic flame and the world saw this Canadian hero. The Spanish speaking world (you realize there are Latin countries south of the the United States, right?) has seen Los Suns brought to their front pages. Stern is about world domination. He already has China. He wants more.

Furthermore, I have been living in Los Angeles for the past 17 years. So your "Arizonans" quip is impotent.
 

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China? That was ages ago. Perhaps you haven't been following the news this year... Steve Nash helped light the Olympic flame and the world saw this Canadian hero. The Spanish speaking world (you realize there are Latin countries south of the the United States, right?) has seen Los Suns brought to their front pages. Stern is about world domination. He already has China. He wants more.

Furthermore, I have been living in Los Angeles for the past 17 years. So your "Arizonans" quip is impotent.

The Summer and Winter Olympics aren't even comparable man. Nice try though. Yeah, Canadians love them some Nash, and he still didn't get the demigod status that Kobe did in China.

The Spanish speaking world (you do realize there are spanish speaking countries, like Spain) enjoys Pau. "Los Suns" isn't such a big deal outside of Phoenix Sunsland. The rest of the southern countries are reading about people having to show their papers in Arizona, not some hokey suns jersey and some local PR before a cinco de mayo game. Really now, "Los Suns" isn't drawing a crowd. I would be willing to bet the Lakers are VASTLY more popular in Central/South American countries.

If you ran a poll in the US, the Lakers would probably finish first in the most hated and most loved team, at the same time. Stern would wet himself for a Lakers vs. Lakers finals, and would rig it that way if he could figure out how.

Your "I've been living in LA" comeback is limp...LA is Lakers territory, and definitely NOT what you were meaning when you threw out that basketball watching world comment. You meant Phoenix Suns fans, and that's cool. But the Lakers are internationally popular...no two ways around that.
 

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The Summer and Winter Olympics aren't even comparable man. Nice try though. Yeah, Canadians love them some Nash, and he still didn't get the demigod status that Kobe did in China.

Wait. The Olympics aren't comparable to Kobe pimping around China? I'm talking about recent world exposure. The Olympic games are much more publicized in other countries than it is in the United States. You've got some serious myopia going on there.

The Spanish speaking world (you do realize there are spanish speaking countries, like Spain) enjoys Pau. "Los Suns" isn't such a big deal outside of Phoenix Sunsland. The rest of the southern countries are reading about people having to show their papers in Arizona, not some hokey suns jersey and some local PR before a cinco de mayo game. Really now, "Los Suns" isn't drawing a crowd. I would be willing to bet the Lakers are VASTLY more popular in Central/South American countries.

This is pretty offensive, actually. Much of the world is more tuned in than you are giving them credit for. And I doubt there have been as many articles in Spain about Pau Gasol lately as there have been in Central and South America about Arizona's immigration law.

If you ran a poll in the US, the Lakers would probably finish first in the most hated and most loved team, at the same time. Stern would wet himself for a Lakers vs. Lakers finals, and would rig it that way if he could figure out how.

Your "I've been living in LA" comeback is limp...LA is Lakers territory, and definitely NOT what you were meaning when you threw out that basketball watching world comment. You meant Phoenix Suns fans, and that's cool. But the Lakers are internationally popular...no two ways around that.

Now you're telling me what I meant? I thought arrogance had it's own thread. I know basketball fans around the country. You were assuming that I was in Arizona and only spoke with local fans. Wrong.

Stern wants to expand. It's true the Lakers are already world famous...that's why he'd prefer new teams drawing attention from new territories and new fans. I said the world wants to see something besides the Lakers, and I think I'm right.
 
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I said the world wants to see something besides the Lakers, and I'm right.

dude, I LOATHE the Lakers and LOVE the Suns, but the above is so far from the truth it's not even funny. The Lakers are the number 1 draw in the league. They have been since Jordan retired and Shaq/Kobe got there. Stern would KILL for Lakers/Celtics 2.
 

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dude, I LOATHE the Lakers and LOVE the Suns, but the above is so far from the truth it's not even funny. The Lakers are the number 1 draw in the league. They have been since Jordan retired and Shaq/Kobe got there. Stern would KILL for Lakers/Celtics 2.

And if you think Stern wouldn't love to strike while the iron is hot and cash in on free, ready-made, WORLD publicity to expand the reach of his money-making entertainment empire, you are underestimating his greed and megalomania. I'm talking about the future.

Stern doesn't need any help selling Bryant jerseys. The Lakers, by virtue of their excellence on the court and the public's propensity for hopping on the bandwagon, don't need to cultivate any more attention. They were the NBA champion just last year, and I doubt there are many out there who don't already have their Kobe jerseys.

Imagine the sales of Nash jerseys in Canada. Imagine the sales of Los Suns jerseys (though I understand they are almost sold out...). Imagine the television and news exposure in Canada, Central and South America.
 

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Lakers/ Celtics is so old and outdated.. Lets get some NEW SCHOOL rivalries and match ups going.. This NBA has been just so boring to me.. Same old players, same old teams winning it.

I absolutely love how there are always different teams in the playoffs, finals, and champions in other sports.. NHL, NFL, MLB.. Always something different, new and exciting..

Just look at the NHL.. Upset after upset and underdogs going on a tear, so exciting to watch those players pour their hearts out and not have refs/commissioner screwing the game.. To top that off those guys n-e-v-e-r complain about money and how much they make.. Sorry about the vent.. Lets just not see the Lakers/ Celtics in the finals.
 

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Ya, Kobe gave up to prove a point only after the Suns got a big lead. But Lebron didn't appear to give up, he just sucked. I think that's more excusable than just quitting on your team once the game is out of reach.

Except in reality, the Lakers all quit on Kobe in the 1st half. Kobe was the only guy on the Lakers roster that showed up that game.

Then again, the Lakers were playing guys like Smush Parker, Brian Cook, D. George and Kwamaaay Brown. That team had no business in the playoffs in the first place. That wasn't a 60 win team losing to a lower seed every year.
 

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Lebron, Chicago is ready and waiting.

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Except in reality, the Lakers all quit on Kobe in the 1st half. Kobe was the only guy on the Lakers roster that showed up that game.

Then again, the Lakers were playing guys like Smush Parker, Brian Cook, D. George and Kwamaaay Brown. That team had no business in the playoffs in the first place. That wasn't a 60 win team losing to a lower seed every year.

So you're justifying Kobe quitting because his teammates sucked?
 

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Except in reality, the Lakers all quit on Kobe in the 1st half. Kobe was the only guy on the Lakers roster that showed up that game.

One FG attempt in the 2nd half from your leading scorer is not "showing up" no matter how hard you try to spin it. Kobe quit on the Lakers that day and because he was the emotional leader of that team, everybody else followed suit. Don't be ridiculous. There are no two ways about it.
 
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