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Remember maturity is demanded for the 23 year old QB not the forty/fifty something head coach and GM who are partying and nailing skanks half their age 3-4x per week.Kid needs to grow the efff up
Remember maturity is demanded for the 23 year old QB not the forty/fifty something head coach and GM who are partying and nailing skanks half their age 3-4x per week.Kid needs to grow the efff up
Didn’t he play around Fitz for 2 years. Countless posters said we shoulda brought him back last year just for his leadership. Lol.. I think your going out on a mighty thin limb thinking he’s going to miraculously learn leadership and just all of a sudden become tough. Good lord.The second Keim comes to Mo Gael and says we need to trade Kyler Murray he drink ass should be fired.
I’m not crazy about A LOT of his intangibles, but the talent is there. Leadership and toughness can be learned and cutting bait this early is a mistake. But this kid needs ACTUAL LEADERSHIP to learn from... not perpetual failures like Keim and Kliff and Michael. We’re stuck with a Michael but not Keim and Kliff.
lmao, ain’t no damn way in hell Keim should be in ANOTHER position to make a franchise-changing positionxc_hide_links_from_guests_guests_error_hide_media
Fire up trade machines. This wont be salvageable. Call up the Vikings, Eagles, etc.
Trades are the one thing Keim is good at. So there's that.
The 23 year old is the one that’s gonna be demanding a 150 to 200 million dollar contract. Lots of 23 year old players in the league that have shown a higher level of maturity.Remember maturity is demanded for the 23 year old QB not the forty/fifty something head coach and GM who are partying and nailing skanks half their age 3-4x per week.
I don’t disagree but leadership starts at the top. Whitewashing what’s above Kyler is the definition of intellectual dishonesty.The 23 year old is the one that’s gonna be demanding a 150 to 200 million dollar contract. Lots of 23 year old players in the league that have shown a higher level of maturity.
This.Kyler needs to grow up, but the thought of Keim potentially making another franchise-changing decision makes me physically ill.
Mostly it’s just the plebs who eat up Bidwill state media. Reasonably intelligent and honest people admit that while Kyler has his warts, he also is saddled with a below average supporting cast, a drunk buffoonish GM, and a MAC-level head coach.
Pathetic ya’ll have let historically inept clowns like Mike Bidwill and Keim lead you down this road where the overall majority sentiment is wanting to sell low on the best young QB prospect in franchise history.
Kyler denialism in its purest form.Unless this information is coming directly from the mouth of Kyler and / or the Cardinals it is purely speculation. This overreacting is just nonsense.
Mao posts are undefeated on this boardRemember maturity is demanded for the 23 year old QB not the forty/fifty something head coach and GM who are partying and nailing skanks half their age 3-4x per week.
Didn’t he play around Fitz for 2 years. Countless posters said we shoulda brought him back last year just for his leadership. Lol.. I think your going out on a mighty thin limb thinking he’s going to miraculously learn leadership and just all of a sudden become tough. Good lord.
Remember when leading up to arguably our best win week 1 against TN, Kyler was preparing for his best game of the season while Keim and his crew were blacked out and bar hopping through Nashville. So the arrows against Kyler’s maturity level as a 23 year old vs the middle-aged men above him kind of ring hollow.The 23 year old is the one that’s gonna be demanding a 150 to 200 million dollar contract. Lots of 23 year old players in the league that have shown a higher level of maturity.
Agree but Kyler can’t control the top and neither can we. All he can do is work on himself and clearly he needs to. If Kyler is what we all hoped he’d be Then he should be able to overcome a lot of his issues and make everyone around him better. instead he’s choosing the pouting path. “ believes he was set up as a scapegoat” I’d beyond ludicrous. Take some personal responsibility for your own performance.I don’t disagree but leadership starts at the top. Whitewashing what’s above Kyler is the definition of intellectual dishonesty.
YepThe coach that just got 2nd most wins ever? That had 2 division Road wins with McCoy?
The below average supporting cast started 7-0 and should have been 8-0.
The drunk buffoon GM has invested heavily to bring in guys like Nuk, Watt etc
I'm no great fan of any of them but this is all Murray being a bitch. The Cards have done nothing but try to build around him since he got here.
I can’t argue with anyone who thinks Keim and Kliff are remotely competent at their jobs. Like arguing geography with someone who thinks the earth is flat.
Remember when leading up to arguably our best win week 1 against TN, Kyler was preparing for his best game of the season while Keim and his crew were blacked out and bar hopping through Nashville. So the arrows against Kyler’s maturity level as a 23 year old vs the middle-aged men above him kind of ring hollow.
Saw it with my own eyes. A few times over that weekend actually.This seems like something you made up.
If Kyler made it another year then yea Keim might have been canned. Bidwill is clearly on Keim's side of things. So we have to make the best of it.. Lets not have a pre-allegations Deshaun situation.lmao, ain’t no damn way in hell Keim should be in ANOTHER position to make a franchise-changing position
Never said they were… but Kyler in general can only blame himself for much of his misgivings. Making excuses for him is just as hollow as blasting the top of the rung.I can’t argue with anyone who thinks Keim and Kliff are remotely competent at their jobs. Like arguing geography with someone who thinks the earth is flat.
Saw it with my own eyes. A few times over that weekend actually.
Never said they were… but Kyler in general can only blame himself for much of his misgivings. Making excuses for him is just as hollow as blasting the top of the rung.
“Remotely competent”? I dunno.I can’t argue with anyone who thinks Keim and Kliff are remotely competent at their jobs. Like arguing with someone who thinks the earth is flat.
The thing is replacing guys like Kyler about 50x harder than replacing bums like Kliff and Keim. That’s my point. I’ve acknowledged Kylers shortcoming many, many times.Never said they were… but Kyler in general can only blame himself for much of his misgivings. Making excuses for him is just as hollow as blasting the top of the rung.
This is the true crux of the issue. It’s the blind leading blind. In that case, you have to choose the blind with the highest upside and then Michael (the king of the blind) has to basically throw darts hoping to get a bullseye on accident to lead what’s left.“Remotely competent”? I dunno.
Neither are going to consistently keep a team in Super Bowl contention—which should be our expectation as fans. But Keim isn’t Jack Easterby and Kliff isn’t Urban Meyer.
The problem is that you need someone to set the culture of the franchise, and we have Kliff, Keim, and Kyler. None of these guys are winners. None of these guys can drive a culture of winning.