Let’s Take a Moment to Overreact to Kyler’s IG Page

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More then half of the board would be estatic if we trade him for Deshaun Watson….but we will need more then just him, and assurance that his off the field problems are over
 

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I think there is a real schism between Kyler and Kilff and Kyler may do us a favor and get Kliff canned. If the choice came down to Murray or Kingsbury who do you think Bidwill chooses? I know there are Murray for Prescott / Hurts / Mayfield rumors out there but I don't think any of those options make AZ better. We need a real NFL proven offensive staff (OC & HC) to get Murray to buy in, if we know about Kingsbury's coaching second half collapses so does Murray. He probably realizes this team isn't going anywhere with this staff.
 

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I think there is a real schism between Kyler and Kilff and Kyler may do us a favor and get Kliff canned. If the choice came down to Murray or Kingsbury who do you think Bidwill chooses? I know there are Murray for Prescott / Hurts / Mayfield rumors out there but I don't think any of those options make AZ better. We need a real NFL proven offensive staff (OC & HC) to get Murray to buy in, if we know about Kingsbury's coaching second half collapses so does Murray. He probably realizes this team isn't going anywhere with this staff.
Share the same agent. If he changes agents, then maybe you're onto something. However, its also possible its a forced marriage because of the agent. So they are kinda tied. Depends more on if Kliff reaches his boiling point with Kyler or not. Agent knows Kyler can latch on to another team.
 

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I think there is a real schism between Kyler and Kilff and Kyler may do us a favor and get Kliff canned. If the choice came down to Murray or Kingsbury who do you think Bidwill chooses? I know there are Murray for Prescott / Hurts / Mayfield rumors out there but I don't think any of those options make AZ better. We need a real NFL proven offensive staff (OC & HC) to get Murray to buy in, if we know about Kingsbury's coaching second half collapses so does Murray. He probably realizes this team isn't going anywhere with this staff.
Actually, it's probably the opposite. The Cardinals are having seconds thoughts about Kliff and Kyler is scared sh!tless that he might have to learn a more complicated NFL offense which does not have the ease of the college scheme and jargon he's familiar and have a coach which does not give him and his young character as much leeway... hence, a coach which does not believe in wearing kid gloves to reach him
 
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Guys, why are we arguing about the whos culpable when we know that everyone’s at fault:

Kyler for being an immature brat who’s not progressing on the intangibles of the position

Kliff for being a terrible leader, coach, and unable to develop talent on the roster.

Keim for being the worst drafting GM in football and putting the team in cap hell for the foreseeable future.

Michael B. For funding this group of circus clowns
 
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This may well belong in the boring post thread, but here goes.

It's fairly well known here that I have experience with addiction. I attended AA meetings in a particular group for quite some time. Over the course of a year or so, the group became 'sick'. By that I mean people were fighting constantly, some dropped out of the group, stopped taking their meds, some started using again, just an unhealthy situation altogether, completely dysfunctional. I started to fall into the trap myself.

As it happened, I ran into an old timer who saw what was happening to the group. He told me, son, you have to go to some other group meetings to see what's wrong with yours, otherwise you won't be able to help them or yourself recover. Sage advice. I did so.

I liken the Cardinal organization to a similar situation. If Michael doesn't step out and take a hard look at it from the outside, he'll stay enmeshed in his own dysfunction indefinitely. You have to take a real hard uncompromising look in the mirror. You yourself won't recover if you don't allow others from outside your group to help you. You take what works and pitch the rest in the dumpster. You can't help others recover either, which is the whole point of life in my opinion. Dude, swallow your pride and ask for help from someone who has no stake in the outcome.


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