Let’s Take a Moment to Overreact to Kyler’s IG Page

[PACardsFan]

And that raises a great point...signing Kyler now before the upcoming cap increases makes a ton of sense. Projections for the salary cap are pretty bullish, and if you wait too long, the Cardinals might be looking at $50+ million per year instead of $40ish million.

This makes perfect sense. As a fan for almost 60 years, I just want the Cardinals to stop the carousel of bringing in older QB’s year after year after year. You have a young stud QB, who has the potential to continue to be a star in the NFL. And make no mistake, if we screw this up & he goes elsewhere, it’ll set this franchise back 2 decades. If not more. And I’ll be gone by then. Take it from someone who has seen pain for decades upon decades, you have to take your chances & sign this kid, no matter the going price tag. To do anything else, would be stupid beyond words. I’ve seen it all my friends, and this is a no brainer. We won’t see better than Murray for a long, long time.

 

[kerouac9]

if we screw this up & he goes elsewhere, it’ll set this franchise back 2 decades

I agree that keeping Kyler in-house should be a priority, but this is utter nonsense. We screwed up on Rosen and it set us back all of one year.

Kyler is unlikely to have an exceptional career longer than 10 years to begin with. It’s entirely possible we’ve already seen the best third of Kyler’s career.

 

[PACardsFan]

I agree that keeping Kyler in-house should be a priority, but this is utter nonsense. We screwed up on Rosen and it set us back all of one year.

Kyler is unlikely to have an exceptional career longer than 10 years to begin with. It’s entirely possible we’ve already seen the best third of Kyler’s career.

Utter nonsense? Rosen was utter trash & consequently we had an opportunity to get a real QB the following season Because we were the WORSE team in the NFL. In my 58 years of following this franchise, we only had the opportunity to get a legitimate young NFL QB on 3 occasions. We won meaningless games to lose out on both Manning brothers & then there was Murray. If you want the opportunity to have a young QB be the face of your franchise & hopefully be a yearly playoff team, you sign Murray.

 

[Broseph]

This makes perfect sense. As a fan for almost 60 years, I just want the Cardinals to stop the carousel of bringing in older QB’s year after year after year. You have a young stud QB, who has the potential to continue to be a star in the NFL. And make no mistake, if we screw this up & he goes elsewhere, it’ll set this franchise back 2 decades. If not more. And I’ll be gone by then. Take it from someone who has seen pain for decades upon decades, you have to take your chances & sign this kid, no matter the going price tag. To do anything else, would be stupid beyond words. I’ve seen it all my friends, and this is a no brainer. We won’t see better than Murray for a long, long time.

A young QB stud? Did you see him play and give up on his team the second half of the year? I’d be mortified to throw that money at KM the way he looked in the playoffs.

 

[PACardsFan]

A young QB stud? Did you see him play and give up on his team the second half of the year? I’d be mortified to throw that money at KM the way he looked in the playoffs.

Gave up on his team?? Stop there. You sound foolish. This team had areas with no depth & injuries exposed us.

 

[slanidrac16]

This makes perfect sense. As a fan for almost 60 years, I just want the Cardinals to stop the carousel of bringing in older QB’s year after year after year. You have a young stud QB, who has the potential to continue to be a star in the NFL. And make no mistake, if we screw this up & he goes elsewhere, it’ll set this franchise back 2 decades. If not more. And I’ll be gone by then. Take it from someone who has seen pain for decades upon decades, you have to take your chances & sign this kid, no matter the going price tag. To do anything else, would be stupid beyond words. I’ve seen it all my friends, and this is a no brainer. We won’t see better than Murray for a long, long time.

Ironically, our best two runs in the last 15 years have been “ washed up “ veteran qb’s.

 

[Stout]

A young QB stud? Did you see him play and give up on his team the second half of the year? I’d be mortified to throw that money at KM the way he looked in the playoffs.

Amen!

 

[Stout]

Gave up on his team?? Stop there. You sound foolish. This team had areas with no depth & injuries exposed us.

And our star, stud, generational QB did so, so much to elevate the team when the team needed a real leader

 

[Minski]

Not sure if its mentioned already but does anyone also find it weird that KM takes credit for McCoy's 2 wins in his statement

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Larry Fitzgerald’s father calls Kyler Murray “spoiled”​

A few anonymous sources out of Arizona have been quoted criticizing quarterback Kyler Murray this offseason. Now someone is putting his name on some criticism of Murray: Larry Fitzgerald Sr., the father of Murray’s former Cardinals teammate, future Hall of Fame wide receiver Larry Fitzgerald.

Fitzgerald Sr., a longtime sports writer who frequently offers opinions on the news of the day in sports, replied on Twitter to a tweet criticizing Murray with some criticism of his own.

“He’s spoiled,” Fitzgerald Sr. wrote, “brings his Oklahoma offense to the NFL team has to catch up great talent.He’s never been humbled keep working.”

Fitzgerald Sr. is only offering his own opinion and not speaking for his son, although it wouldn’t be surprising if he’s basing his opinion on things his son has told him. Fitzgerald Sr. may have heard some of the same things that led Chris Mortensen of ESPN to report on Super Bowl Sunday that there are people in Arizona who see Murray as “self-centered, immature and finger pointer.”

Publicly, the Cardinals have insisted they believe in Murray and are committed to him as their franchise quarterback. For his part, Murray has done what a fictional Cardinal once did and said through his agent that he’ll believe the team is committed to him when they show him the money.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Not sure if its mentioned already but does anyone also find it weird that KM takes credit for McCoy's 2 wins in his statement

Kliff was 1-1 with McCoy.

He missed the Browns game with Covid. SMH.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Larry Fitzgerald’s father calls Kyler Murray “spoiled”​

A few anonymous sources out of Arizona have been quoted criticizing quarterback Kyler Murray this offseason. Now someone is putting his name on some criticism of Murray: Larry Fitzgerald Sr., the father of Murray’s former Cardinals teammate, future Hall of Fame wide receiver Larry Fitzgerald.

Fitzgerald Sr., a longtime sports writer who frequently offers opinions on the news of the day in sports, replied on Twitter to a tweet criticizing Murray with some criticism of his own.

“He’s spoiled,” Fitzgerald Sr. wrote, “brings his Oklahoma offense to the NFL team has to catch up great talent.He’s never been humbled keep working.”

Fitzgerald Sr. is only offering his own opinion and not speaking for his son, although it wouldn’t be surprising if he’s basing his opinion on things his son has told him. Fitzgerald Sr. may have heard some of the same things that led Chris Mortensen of ESPN to report on Super Bowl Sunday that there are people in Arizona who see Murray as “self-centered, immature and finger pointer.”

Publicly, the Cardinals have insisted they believe in Murray and are committed to him as their franchise quarterback. For his part, Murray has done what a fictional Cardinal once did and said through his agent that he’ll believe the team is committed to him when they show him the money.

I doubt Larry Jr. fed Sr. too much about the behind-the-scenes stuff. They aren't extremely close and he's had to apologize for his dad more than once or make it clear that he speaks his own mind.

 

[imaCafan]

I'm curious what everyone thinks. Sign him, trade him, make him play to earn extension, ??? Would love to see a poll on this.

 

[Stout]

I'm curious what everyone thinks. Sign him, trade him, make him play to earn extension, ??? Would love to see a poll on this.

Make him play another year to either earn the extension or show us he doesn't deserve it. If he holds out, trade him for a haul. Some schmoe will give him the record-breaking money he wants, and give us the picks.

 

[Minski]

Kliff was 1-1 with McCoy.

He missed the Browns game with Covid. SMH.

Who mentioned Kliff? I was talking about Kyler and his statement

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Who mentioned Kliff? I was talking about Kyler and his statement

Oops. Misread which K. Too many K's with this team.

 

[DVontel]

Make him play another year to either earn the extension or show us he doesn't deserve it. If he holds out, trade him for a haul. Some schmoe will give him the record-breaking money he wants, and give us the picks.

And do what with them under this FO?

 

[Stout]

And do what with them under this FO?

That is a different problem altogether. If Keim and KK get the rumored extensions, I will have no hope for us at all.

 

[PACardsFan]

And our star, stud, generational QB did so, so much to elevate the team when the team needed a real leader

We'll have to agree to disagree. I don't believe I ever used the word generational, but I do believe he has star quality talent. He's also 24 years old & needs to mature emotionally. Was he frustrated? Absolutely. And he has to learn to handle frustration better. But, I'd 100% prefer working with a young kid with his talent & desire to win than to take chances going in another direction.

 

[BritCard]

This is an interesting study; thanks for sharing it. Obviously there's some survivor bias as the years go on, which is part of my argument. Players who get injured can't be depended on to not be injured. It's the Beanie Wells Hypothesis.

I'd argue that if a player is 34 and hasn't missed significant time in his career, he's actually less likely to miss significant time in that next season. Availability and health is a skill.

But that's not who Keim signed. He signed injury cases in J.J. Watt and A.J. Green, plus drafted an injury case in Rondale Moore. As I say, "SHOCKING: Oft-injured player is injured."

Yes but at the same time both Hopkins and Hudson have rarely been injured in their career, or rarely missed time. Yet both of them missed the most games of their career last year. While Green played every game and Conner all but 2.

One of my biggest arguments against extending Hump was his crappy injury history. One full season in 4 before his extension and I was convinced it was a huge mistake. Yet I think he's played nearly every game the last 3 years.

I agree there are guys that can be injury prone, for the vast majority it's completely random. What happened to Watt this year for example could have happened to anyone, it's not like it was a repeat injury.

I think there is too much made of it. We have a tendency to highlight the vets that get injured to prove a point and ignore the ones that didn't.

 

[BritCard]

xc_hide_links_from_guests_guests_error_hide_media

This was great from Eisen. He summed it up perfectly.

 

[BritCard]

Kliff was 1-1 with McCoy.

He missed the Browns game with Covid. SMH.

Kliff was 2-1 with McCoy. Kyler played the Brown's game.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Kliff was 2-1 with McCoy. Kyler played the Brown's game.

Doh. lol

That's what I get for responding so early in the morning.

 

[Ronin]

xc_hide_links_from_guests_guests_error_hide_media

 

[Stout]

xc_hide_links_from_guests_guests_error_hide_media

Sure, if KM accepts around 30-35 mill a season, we can resolve it. I don't even like that, but fine. Otherwise, KM can go pout in the corner and play his video games, then return to TC when he wants to stop losing money, then play in the regular season because he is in a no-win situation if he wants to hold out.