Let's Not Forget that Eagles fired Bowles

[PACardsFan]

I would think that our D will play balls to the walls in this one & win one for him. Last week we came out fired up for BA against his former team. This week we come out & win for Bowles.

 

[Hollywood]

I forgot about that. In fact, the way this team is playing right now it is easy to forget that this is a first year coaching staff.

 

[BillsCarnage]

Let's not forget about all of the posters who hated the hiring of Bowles and still (seemingly) cry to this day that Horton is gone.
Hopefully some of them are finally coming around.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Horton who?

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Let's not forget about all of the posters who hated the hiring of Bowles and still (seemingly) cry to this day that Horton is gone.
Hopefully some of them are finally coming around.

I have come around to the fact that Bowles is a good DC, and the talent on this roster on defense is superb.

Obviously, losing Horton was not a big deal, not one bit.


Here is to hoping those who were wringing their hands about firing Whiz are starting to come around that Arians is a pretty good coach, and change was needed.

 

[Capital Card]

I have come around to the fact that Bowles is a good DC, and the talent on this roster on defense is superb.

Obviously, losing Horton was not a big deal, not one bit.


Here is to hoping those who were wringing their hands about firing Whiz are starting to come around that Arians is a pretty good coach, and change was needed.

Enjoying a bacon crow-burger right here.

I wasn't anti BA, Whiz just had a bit of goodwill remaining with me, thanks to his SB season and Todd Haley flailing since he left. I never envisioned Bowles having the success he is having. Never.

Go Cards!!!

 

[Totally_Red]

I would think that our D will play balls to the walls in this one & win one for him. Last week we came out fired up for BA against his former team. This week we come out & win for Bowles.

I thought the Eagles did him a favor and released him from his contract so he could join BA, just like the Cardinals released Ray Horton so he could go to Cleveland. If anything Bowles should be grateful the Eagles let him go. He has a boatload more talent here than Philly has IMO.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Let's not forget about all of the posters who hated the hiring of Bowles and still (seemingly) cry to this day that Horton is gone.

I'd really like to see ANY post in the last six weeks where people are still "crying" about losing Horton, much less still crying "to this day".

 

[Totally_Red]

I'd really like to see ANY post in the last six weeks where people are still "crying" about losing Horton, much less still crying "to this day".

Horton should be the one crying...going to a pathetic franchise like the Browns.

 

[Kel Varnsen]

I thought the Eagles did him a favor and released him from his contract so he could join BA, just like the Cardinals released Ray Horton so he could go to Cleveland. If anything Bowles should be grateful the Eagles let him go. He has a boatload more talent here than Philly has IMO.

I don't remember exactly what happened, either, but wasn't Bowles basically put in a really tough situation where he had no time to implement his system and the whole franchise was essentially a mess, anyway?

If so, at least as of today, it looks like the Cardinals were really smart and really lucky to end up with Arians and Bowles. They both were in really unusual situations and the Cardinals figured out how to benefit from them. Pretty wild.

[Also, this poster takes no responsibility if the team ends up 7-9.]

 

[CtCardinals78]

Horton should be the one crying...going to a pathetic franchise like the Browns.

The Browns are a QB away from being a good team.

As for Bowles, he doing a great job. This whole coaching staff is. In fact, if the Cards make the playoffs I think BA should be COY again.

 

[BillsCarnage]

I don't remember exactly what happened, either, but wasn't Bowles basically put in a really tough situation where he had no time to implement his system and the whole franchise was essentially a mess, anyway?

Yes. Reid made his original OC, i think it was, his DC. A total setup for failure and then removed him 6 games or so into the season and had Bowles replace him. The D had already given up by then.

 

[Bert]

I dont blame anyone for lamenting the departure of Horton. Our D was the lone bright spot last year so getting rid of him made no sense. And with Bowles its not like he had a real spectacular track record coming in. I was worried too.

But it's all worked out. BASK and Bowles have done a phenomenal job and the D looks scarier than ever.

I dont think anyone needs to eat any crow, it's a prefect example of respect being earned, not given. Bowles has earned it!

 

[Cardinals.Ken]

Horton who?

I heard something about that...

 

[BullheadCardFan]

I forgot about that. In fact, the way this team is playing right now it is easy to forget that this is a first year coaching staff.

I forgot about that also. Was concerned with changing DC's with success Horton had, but it's really worked out for the better. This D is playing really well and is getting better each week

Hats off to Bowles.

 

[Kel Varnsen]

Yes. Reid made his original OC, i think it was, his DC. A total setup for failure and then removed him 6 games or so into the season and had Bowles replace him. The D had already given up by then.

Andy Reid, evil genius. Looks like his plan worked out well!

 

[crisper57]

Not even an OC. He was the offensive line coach.

 

[Duckjake]

Horton should be the one crying...going to a pathetic franchise like the Browns.

Actually he probably feels right at home after the last two seasons in Arizona.

Browns D is #2 in the NFL in rushing yards allowed per attempt and #3 in the NFL in Net Yards Per attempt allowed passing. Looks to me like Horton is doing just fine in Cleveland. Can't bash a guy whose defense kept the last two pasthetic seasons somewhat interesting.

 

[phillycard]

Let's not forget about all of the posters who hated the hiring of Bowles and still (seemingly) cry to this day that Horton is gone.
Hopefully some of them are finally coming around.

Count me among those that are on board BC. I needed to be reminded that the pieces he had in Philly were atrocious. The talent disparity is great, but I am amazed at Todd's ability to adjust and confound the opposing offense. He keeps this up and he's gonna be looking at some potential HC shots.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Hey, philly - you going to the game?

 

[Cardiac]

I know I posted countless times that Bowles was put in an impossible situation in Philly. Yes they fired their previous Oline coach who was promoted to DC, Juan Castillo. They were also using that wide 9 gap D for their DE's that Washburn the Dline coach wanted. He quit soon after Castillo was fired/scapegoated.

I have mad respect for Horton but understood why BA wanted is own man for the DC and wasn't panicked about it. Part of me wanted Whiz to stay with SK being promoted but I also understood that the fan base and some of the players needed a change.

Bottom line is things are going incredibly well so far this season and Michael gets credit for making the changes. Thing that bothers me is when people bash Whiz and give him little to no credit for what he accomplished. Seriously folks, he was the HC that got the Cards to the SB and posted a 4-2 record in the playoffs.

Which is 3 more wins than any other Cards HC has had in the SB era. He seems to be doing a great job as the OC in San Diego. Their D blows but their O is top 5 in the league.

Back to Bowles, he may be doing an even better job than Horton but at the least there has not been a drop off. I would bet that DD has his back and as a captain is getting the troops riled up to have a huge game.

 

[Hollywood]

Count me among those that are on board BC. I needed to be reminded that the pieces he had in Philly were atrocious. The talent disparity is great, but I am amazed at Todd's ability to adjust and confound the opposing offense. He keeps this up and he's gonna be looking at some potential HC shots.

This. I don't remember Horton being able to make halftime adjustments nearly as well...but I will admit it might just be selective memory.

 

[Totally_Red]

I know I posted countless times that Bowles was put in an impossible situation in Philly. Yes they fired their previous Oline coach who was promoted to DC, Juan Castillo. They were also using that wide 9 gap D for their DE's that Washburn the Dline coach wanted. He quit soon after Castillo was fired/scapegoated.

I have mad respect for Horton but understood why BA wanted is own man for the DC and wasn't panicked about it. Part of me wanted Whiz to stay with SK being promoted but I also understood that the fan base and some of the players needed a change.

Bottom line is things are going incredibly well so far this season and Michael gets credit for making the changes. Thing that bothers me is when people bash Whiz and give him little to no credit for what he accomplished. Seriously folks, he was the HC that got the Cards to the SB and posted a 4-2 record in the playoffs.

Which is 3 more wins than any other Cards HC has had in the SB era. He seems to be doing a great job as the OC in San Diego. Their D blows but their O is top 5 in the league.

Back to Bowles, he may be doing an even better job than Horton but at the least there has not been a drop off. I would bet that DD has his back and as a captain is getting the troops riled up to have a huge game.

Very true! But as Whis lost his supporting cast and a boatload of talent, he lost his touch IMO. He is in a better place and the Cardinals are in a better place. It's a win-win.

The NFC West has gotten a whole lot better since 2008-9. Whis did a great job, but the Cardinals had to upgrade to be competitive and we have. There is still work to do, but it looks like the front office and coaching staffs are in place to do that work.

 

[Duckjake]

This. I don't remember Horton being able to make halftime adjustments nearly as well...but I will admit it might just be selective memory.

I would say selective memory. The Cards really didn't have any unusual defensive breakdowns in the 2nd half of games. Last years team had allowed 227 points through 11 games. This year 223.

Also after the bye week our D last year held the Rams offense to 17, Falcons to 16, Jets to 7, Lions to 10, and Bears to 14.

Meanwhile our offense gave up 14 to the Seahawks, 14 to the Bears, 14 to the Rams, and 7 to the Falcons.