Lindley now named the SF starter lol BA is in bad shape

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Lindley now the starter
I don't know if I'll even watch the game
It'll be a slaughter
For the first time I'm gonna lay a huge bet against AZ.
 

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The big mistake they made was not signing an experienced backup when Palmer went down. There's got to be at least one available guy on planet earth that is better than Lindley. My guess is there are at least a dozen.
 

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The coach has seen what Lindley brings to the table. Stanton does not appear to want to do anything other than sit on the sideline and tote a clip board. LT is obviously not ready to do anything. The cards are gonna have a really hard time winning this one.
 

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What do people really expect out of Lindley or Thomas? If anything, this move back to Lindley tells me Arians just isn't looking to get the playoffs started, and be damned what seed we are. He still wants to win in the case StL can beat Seattle or if Detroit can beat GB too.


I really don't get this whole attitude with fans around here. We are down to 4th string QB. 3rd string RB. Half the defense is injured. No matter what happens (and I haven't given up on winning it all), I will be proud and amazed as to the coaching job Arians did. And the way Kiem handled getting players in here this year. The sad fact is, its just out of our hands as to the injuries we got this year..
 

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What do people really expect out of Lindley or Thomas? If anything, this move back to Lindley tells me Arians just isn't looking to get the playoffs started, and be damned what seed we are. He still wants to win in the case StL can beat Seattle or if Detroit can beat GB too.


I really don't get this whole attitude with fans around here. We are down to 4th string QB. 3rd string RB. Half the defense is injured. No matter what happens (and I haven't given up on winning it all), I will be proud and amazed as to the coaching job Arians did. And the way Kiem handled getting players in here this year. The sad fact is, its just out of our hands as to the injuries we got this year..

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I am actually impressed that BA went back to Lindley after seeing a couple of rough practices from LT - much smarter than forcing the change, crossing his fingers and hoping for the best...I've seen enough of that for awhile. Now we can see if the game plan includes options for an inaccurate QB (vs a kid who is in completely over his head but is athletic)
 

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Odds are that we are the #5 with or without this game. Rest Drew and hope for the best.
 

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What do people really expect out of Lindley or Thomas? If anything, this move back to Lindley tells me Arians just isn't looking to get the playoffs started, and be damned what seed we are. He still wants to win in the case StL can beat Seattle or if Detroit can beat GB too.


I really don't get this whole attitude with fans around here. We are down to 4th string QB. 3rd string RB. Half the defense is injured. No matter what happens (and I haven't given up on winning it all), I will be proud and amazed as to the coaching job Arians did. And the way Kiem handled getting players in here this year. The sad fact is, its just out of our hands as to the injuries we got this year..
I like this post, but I don't think people expected more out of Lindley (or Thomas). I think he did exactly what many of us expected and that's the problem.

When Stanton went down--and frankly even before then--there were a lot of posts, not even asking whether we should bring a vet in, but who that vet would be.

It was merely assumed BA and Keim would bring in someone more competent. To bring in Lindley, my God Lindley, and to roll with Logan after that, just seems like a serious mistake given the nature and importance of the Seattle game, and frankly every remaining game.

That Seattle game was the biggest, most important, game we've had here in years. To roll with Ryan Lindley in a game of that magnitude was a serious mistake. And it's not even a mistake in hindsight, people knew it was a bad decision ahead of time.

And yes, perhaps you don't acquire a new QB the week before the game, but longtime football fans expected us to get another QB the minute Palmer went down, so at least you acclimate them to the team, just in case Stanton went down, which is what happened.

Nobody's hating on the team, nobody is hating on BA. But he's human and so is Keim and to a lot of people that was a grave mistake.

I also believe there's a large part of this that is just playoff related in BA's mind. He knows more about football than everyone on this forum combined, so it's difficult to second guess. Won't stop me though, that's why we're here.
 
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We will be led B-Lindley into the playoffs and it's going to be tough to watch again...if Stanton can't go it will be a disaster ending to a great season. Stanton needs that extra week off... Maybe the football gods will shine on us this Sunday and get us the #1 seed. :daretodream
 

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Pretty much agree with Darkside, especially given the disastrous year when Kolb went down and we had Skelton and Lindley left. I would have figured that Keim would have remembered that as well and gotten somebody...but maybe BA thought Lindley would be good enough as a backup. If you pick someone up now, it is likely behind Lindley, you are carrying 4 QB because you won't get LT past waivers as someone will claim him to have him in their camp next year.

Keim is probably kicking himself in the ass.
 

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I wish we had Double Deuce instead of Blindley. He could at least throw a TD.
 

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To me, the new defensive interference rules put into place this year are a direct reflection of the dearth of talent at the QB position. They want to make the game more exciting with more scoring. Hell, when you've only got 15 guys in the whole freaking world that can fit a spiral into the right place at the right time, what can you do to effect scoring except take away any advantage the defensive player has?
 

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What a mess. Can't believe we didn't bring in another QB. I'm sure BA told Keim that he could get Lindley ready. Keim should have laughed and brought in somebody that can complete a pass. I put this one on Keim. Sometimes the GM has to pull rank.

Actually, who knows what happened behind closed doors. All I know is that we're screwed.
 
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Drove by the facility today and saw they had a full practice going on
 

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The big mistake they made was not signing an experienced backup when Palmer went down. There's got to be at least one available guy on planet earth that is better than Lindley. My guess is there are at least a dozen.


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would have had what.. 6-7 weeks to learn the system by now.
 

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What a mess. Can't believe we didn't bring in another QB. I'm sure BA told Keim that he could get Lindley ready. Keim should have laughed and brought in somebody that can complete a pass. I put this one on Keim. Sometimes the GM has to pull rank.

Actually, who knows what happened behind closed doors. All I know is that we're screwed.

Who would you have suggested.
 

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What do people really expect out of Lindley or Thomas? If anything, this move back to Lindley tells me Arians just isn't looking to get the playoffs started, and be damned what seed we are. He still wants to win in the case StL can beat Seattle or if Detroit can beat GB too.


I really don't get this whole attitude with fans around here. We are down to 4th string QB. 3rd string RB. Half the defense is injured. No matter what happens (and I haven't given up on winning it all), I will be proud and amazed as to the coaching job Arians did. And the way Kiem handled getting players in here this year. The sad fact is, its just out of our hands as to the injuries we got this year..

Glad you are a Loco Fan. I hope you can stay Loco Cards fan forever and if you do, that will be a credit to you.

However, for the rest of us, the big disappointment is Lindley is still the old Lindley we knew and the Lindley we watched do nothing in games. Under BA's training, Lindley has regressed and was under 50% completion rate, still zero TDs, tossed in an INT and could have had 3 more picked off, and remained woefully inaccurate on anything other than a short pass and even those were up, down, and to the sides of the receivers.

Next Man Up only works when the next man up is as good or almost nearly as good as the guy who went down. In Lindley's case, he is miles below Stanton and Lindley's last outing only re-confirmed his self-imposed game performance ceiling. Of course he could have a miracle, once in a lifetime monster day and play lights out against the Forty-Whiners, but that would be totally different from his past history and beyond his proven talent level. Lindley has never given anyone reason to think he could play 180 degrees different than how he has played last week.

As the paraphrased Chinese proverb says, "insanity is continuing to play Lindley and hoping he can accurately pass the ball to the right receiver without getting the receiver killed."

From his college days to now, Lindley has never had any success as a passing QB. That is why it was maddening to see that Keim agreed to bring back Lindley even after he saw first hand how bad Lindley was during the Whisenhunt years. The window of time where the Cards could have brought in proven back-up QB who can execute plays was wasted and lost because the Cards felt it was better to go with a guy who knew the playbook, but could never execute the plays, instead of going with a proven and seasoned back-up QB who would have had 4 to 6 weeks to have learned some of the plays and be able to practice executing them. Bringing back Lindley was the Max Hall fiasco all over again.
 

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The big mistake they made was not signing an experienced backup when Palmer went down. There's got to be at least one available guy on planet earth that is better than Lindley. My guess is there are at least a dozen.

I agree it was a mistake not to bring in a experienced QB in hindsight after Palmer went down but what were the odds they would also lose their #2 QB as well? Keim even stated on his radio show if there were players available who could help them they'd be on a plane to PHX. Pickins must be slim.
 

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Okay, I'm sorry, but Arians just looks like an absolute moron here. No, it doesn't take away from the coach of the year job he's done, but man, is he grossly mishandling this situation. You guys have already covered part of it. Then he rolls with Lindley--even after a huge week-and-a-half break after the Thursday game. THEN he claims Lindley was doing a good job--total lies to protect his QB, probably, but it really has the opposite effect, IMO. THEN he changes up the QB--but THEN he says he had a bad start to a practice, which got better--YET now he's benched his new rookie QB.

I mean, way to destroy the confidence of your *cough cough* starter *cough cough* in Lindley, by saying one thing out of the side of your mouth, then doing the other, only to destroy the confidence of your rookie QB by hooking him IN PRACTICE. Just keep your stupid mouth shut, don't name LT the starter, and keep everything under wraps. What in the hell is WRONG with you, Arians?

Ugh. Sorry for the rant, but he is royally screwing the pooch here.
 

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Okay, I'm sorry, but Arians just looks like an absolute moron here. No, it doesn't take away from the coach of the year job he's done, but man, is he grossly mishandling this situation. You guys have already covered part of it. Then he rolls with Lindley--even after a huge week-and-a-half break after the Thursday game. THEN he claims Lindley was doing a good job--total lies to protect his QB, probably, but it really has the opposite effect, IMO. THEN he changes up the QB--but THEN he says he had a bad start to a practice, which got better--YET now he's benched his new rookie QB.

I mean, way to destroy the confidence of your *cough cough* starter *cough cough* in Lindley, by saying one thing out of the side of your mouth, then doing the other, only to destroy the confidence of your rookie QB by hooking him IN PRACTICE. Just keep your stupid mouth shut, don't name LT the starter, and keep everything under wraps. What in the hell is WRONG with you, Arians?

Ugh. Sorry for the rant, but he is royally screwing the pooch here.

This has been handled almost as bad as Dirk Koetter selecting ASUs starting QB.


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So all of you that think the team should have brought in a "proven veteran" who would you have brought in?

Keep in mind that ANYONE you name has been passed over by every team in the league as even a practice squad player. Then think back to how bad Palmer looked in his first few games last year. And he has been a starting QB for his entire career and had a full training camp and preseason to learn the offense. And it STILL took him half the regular season to grasp things.

Just how much better do you think anyone else would be than Lindley?

Don't get me wrong. Lindley is terrible. But terrible is what we're stuck with whether it's Lindley or somebody else.
 
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