Lindley now named the SF starter lol BA is in bad shape

[Darkside]

So all of you that think the team should have brought in a "proven veteran" who would you have brought in?

Keep in mind that ANYONE you name has been passed over by every team in the league as even a practice squad player. Then think back to how bad Palmer looked in his first few games last year. And he has been a starting QB for his entire career and had a full training camp and preseason to learn the offense. And it STILL took him half the regular season to grasp things.

Just how much better do you think anyone else would be than Lindley?

Don't get me wrong. Lindley is terrible. But terrible is what we're stuck with whether it's Lindley or somebody else.

Disagree, they could have brought in even a crappy vet after Palmer went down. Lindley wasn't the answer. They could have brought anyone in to perform better.

 

[Darkside]

It was a mistake. It happens. To pretend like BA and Keim don't make mistakes is idiotic.

What's most concerning is that it was so late in the year. It speaks of hubris, like they just thought they could make anything work. No. This is the NFL man.

 

[BigDavis75]

What do people really expect out of Lindley or Thomas? If anything, this move back to Lindley tells me Arians just isn't looking to get the playoffs started, and be damned what seed we are. He still wants to win in the case StL can beat Seattle or if Detroit can beat GB too.


I really don't get this whole attitude with fans around here. We are down to 4th string QB. 3rd string RB. Half the defense is injured. No matter what happens (and I haven't given up on winning it all), I will be proud and amazed as to the coaching job Arians did. And the way Kiem handled getting players in here this year. The sad fact is, its just out of our hands as to the injuries we got this year..

Couldn't agree more.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Disagree, they could have brought in even a crappy vet after Palmer went down. Lindley wasn't the answer. They could have brought anyone in to perform better.

But Lindley is a crappy vet that they brought in after Palmer went down.

 

[TJ]

Disagree, they could have brought in even a crappy vet after Palmer went down. Lindley wasn't the answer. They could have brought anyone in to perform better.

Like who?

 

[GatorAZ]

The homer in me wanted to believe in LT's upside and after the first preseason game I drank the koolaid. Never go full-homer.

 

[Darkside]

But Lindley is a crappy vet that they brought in after Palmer went down.

But shouldn't they have known? The guy sucks, shouldn't they have known that? They already had a look at him. That's what's so disconcerting.

 

[Darkside]

Like who?

Anyone? There were a lot of suggestions after Palmer went down. I doubt any of them were worse than Lindley.

Let's not pretend like there weren't dudes better than Lindley out there, the minute Palmer got hurt.

 

[Darkside]

Truth is they thought they could roll with Lindley. It's hubris, like I said. They thought they could win with crap, and they can't, this is the NFL man.

 

[TJ]

Anyone? There were a lot of suggestions after Palmer went down. I doubt any of them were worse than Lindley.

Let's not pretend like there weren't dudes better than Lindley out there, the minute Palmer got hurt.

Again, what street free agent QBs would've performed better given the circumstances?

 

[Seandonic]

I can not even believe we are in this position again. That this scrub is even in the league is beyond me. As a long time Cardinals fan I knew something like this was going to happen. Only the Cardinals. The same ol Cardinals.

 

[Hollywood]

It was a mistake. It happens. To pretend like BA and Keim don't make mistakes is idiotic.

What's most concerning is that it was so late in the year. It speaks of hubris, like they just thought they could make anything work. No. This is the NFL man.

I dont pretend they dont make mistakes. DWash still looms as a large one. Lindley just wasnt one. And if he was he was a small one. Would you rather we kill you by cutting off you right arm or your left? what difference does it make?

Anyone? There were a lot of suggestions after Palmer went down. I doubt any of them were worse than Lindley.

Let's not pretend like there weren't dudes better than Lindley out there, the minute Palmer got hurt.

Name em? Someone that can learn the offense faster than Palmer and is better than Lindley.

 

[HoodieBets]

I dont pretend they dont make mistakes. DWash still looms as a large one. Lindley just wasnt one. And if he was he was a small one. Would you rather we kill you by cutting off you right arm or your left? what difference does it make?

Name em? Someone that can learn the offense faster than Palmer and is better than Lindley.

Thad Lewis who won NFL games last year was available until Nov 24 when the texans signed him. Palmer got hurt the week before. Also there was josh freeman and Rex grossman. All better than Lindley or Thomas.

 

[Southpaw]

The big mistake they made was not signing an experienced backup when Palmer went down. There's got to be at least one available guy on planet earth that is better than Lindley. My guess is there are at least a dozen.

Appreciate the thought but specifically who? Houston stashed Case Keenum and it has worked. Cards stashed Lindley and it hasn't.

 

[Russ Smith]

But shouldn't they have known? The guy sucks, shouldn't they have known that? They already had a look at him. That's what's so disconcerting.

And yet the guy who personally played a role in drafting Thomas decided Lindley not Thomas should play. And then after 2 bad performances he names Thomas the starter and 2 practices later, he decides to start Lindley. People are missing the point, even Bruce Arians who has every reason to believe in Thomas, doesn't right now.

I go back to the pre draft rumor on Thomas, when he was at Va Tech he contacted QB Guru Steve Clarkson(ex San Jose State QB) and wanted to pay Clarkson to work with him in the offseason. The rumor is Clarkson brought him in for a workout, and then after the workout told him it would be unfair of me to take your money, you are NOT a QB, you should move back to TE. So Thomas hired a different QB coach, slid down draft boards and appeared to reinforce everything Clarkson saw,

He has great size, he has a strong arm, that doesn't mean he's a QB and at least so far even Arians isn't sure. The thing is the NFL during the season it's tough on a 3rd string QB, you don't get many reps, even with Arians and Moore talking to him, he's not getting actual work, so his progress in the preseason has been stunted.

 

[Mitch]

What amazes me about the NFL is how one QB gets all the reps all week and then when that one QB goes down, you hear that the #2 QB hadn't gotten any reps with the first team.

What likely happened to Logan Thomas is that because he's been playing exclusively on the scout team all year, running other team's plays---he hasn't had the reps in the Cardinals' own offense to know the plays and where all the players should be and what the assignments and protections and keys are as well as Lindley who has been in the system for two years.

Therefore, the decision to stick with Lindley is about which player has a greater understanding of the plays.

 

[Mitch]

And yet the guy who personally played a role in drafting Thomas decided Lindley not Thomas should play. And then after 2 bad performances he names Thomas the starter and 2 practices later, he decides to start Lindley. People are missing the point, even Bruce Arians who has every reason to believe in Thomas, doesn't right now.

I go back to the pre draft rumor on Thomas, when he was at Va Tech he contacted QB Guru Steve Clarkson(ex San Jose State QB) and wanted to pay Clarkson to work with him in the offseason. The rumor is Clarkson brought him in for a workout, and then after the workout told him it would be unfair of me to take your money, you are NOT a QB, you should move back to TE. So Thomas hired a different QB coach, slid down draft boards and appeared to reinforce everything Clarkson saw,

He has great size, he has a strong arm, that doesn't mean he's a QB and at least so far even Arians isn't sure. The thing is the NFL during the season it's tough on a 3rd string QB, you don't get many reps, even with Arians and Moore talking to him, he's not getting actual work, so his progress in the preseason has been stunted.

Plus, ironically Russ, BA chose to play Lindley in the pre-season when he could have kept trying to give Thomas more reps and experience.

What this suggests to me is that BA&SK are going to move Thomas to TE next year and work him into the role as they have been doing with Darren Fells.

The Thomas as QB experiment is likely over.

 

[JS22]

It's pretty obvious that Stanton isn't going to be ready for the playoffs. There's no way BA starts Thomas in game one, so they're getting more reps for Lindley.

That's how I look at it, anyway.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

I will give some names that we could of brought in besides Lindley

Charlie Batch and Rex Grossman.

OK both of these guys have major warts. Batch can manage a game but lacks arm strength at his age. He knows the system playing in Pittsburgh. Rex is a head case but can throw the ball. They both give us a better chance to win that what we have.

With 6-7 weeks of prep time they would have been better than Lindley who is a joke to the franchise and us fans who avidly support our team

 

[BullheadCardFan]

I am disappointed in the FO and BA for leaving us in this situation. They knew what we had to work with and had time to make a move.

They have done really well filling holes due to injury this year at many positions. But in this case they missed out.

Lindley is scared and lost and we can all see it in his eyes. He can't look off any receivers, he can't audible and his passes are below junior high level. They had to know this and should have never brought him in. They had plenty of looks from preseason games to know.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Said Cardinals offensive coordinator Harold Goodwin, “Week to week, different quarterback, do you like it? No. But it is what it is.”

Link

 

[Russ Smith]

Plus, ironically Russ, BA chose to play Lindley in the pre-season when he could have kept trying to give Thomas more reps and experience.

What this suggests to me is that BA&SK are going to move Thomas to TE next year and work him into the role as they have been doing with Darren Fells.

The Thomas as QB experiment is likely over.

I don't know if they're going to move him to TE or not I'm just saying the rumor pre draft was that at some point in his college career he tried to hire one of the most prominent QB coaches in the country, in Clarkson, and when Clarkson worked him out he told him you're not a QB, go back to TE(where he played in HS). I think that rumor sort of reflected the opinion of lots of NFL teams and that's why he slid. Teams weren't sure he was a QB, he wanted to be a QB, so they didn't pick him.

I think Arians clearly doesn't think he's ready to play, does that mean he intends to move him to TE, I have no idea, but I think it's clear he believes if he plays him at QB now, it's not going to go well and he believes Lindley is more capable of playing, right now, than Thomas is. As poorly as Lindley has played, that says something about Thomas.

 

[jmt]

It's pretty obvious that Stanton isn't going to be ready for the playoffs. There's no way BA starts Thomas in game one, so they're getting more reps for Lindley.

That's how I look at it, anyway.

Me too.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

I want to add that LT should be able to improve with the work he has been given. Has he been studying the playbook? Has he been giving his full effort to learn the system? We never seem to hear about these kind of things. Is he really someone we can depend on developing for future years?

If he is really this lost at this time of year do we draft or bring in another QB?

I know it takes a while to develop to be an NFL QB, but you have to have something to build on to begin with.

 

[Totally_Red]

Thomas is not ready for NFL regular season snaps period! Ryan Lindley gives the best hope of being competitive in SF on Sunday, slim as that hope is. With Thomas there is absolutely NO hope. I mean if you look lousy in practice you aren't going to look good in the game. With Thomas you are getting a less ready version of Johnny Football.