Losing the lower pick surely sucks.

[QuebecCard]

I wouldn't draft Daniels with a 10 foot pole

Haven't seen a pole of any length used on draft day.

 

[Fitz4Ever]

Given that the CARDS were down to third and fourth on their depth chart what exactly were the GM and Head Coach to do?

Curious minds want to know.

Oh...Im not arguing you can ask players to lose. They are auditioning for jobs on other teams.

But if Monti is happy about this win after the hour of excitement wears off...then hes not a good GM. We went from being in the drivers seat to being a passenger on a greyhound bus.....all for going from 3 wins to 4.

Some people are acting like we just made the playoffs. We went from the 2nd worst record in the entire NFL to tied for the 3rd. I'm just not seeing the reason to celebrate.

 

[Lomax to Green 84]

They have something working in Chicago. Don’t be surprised if they take Harrison #1 overall and then take the OT with the 2nd 1st round pick.

 

[QuebecCard]

Oh...Im not arguing you can ask players to lose. They are auditioning for jobs on other teams.

But if Monti is happy about this win after the hour of excitement wears off...then hes not a good GM. We went from being in the drivers seat to being a passenger on a greyhound bus.....all for going from 3 wins to 4.

Some people are acting like we just made the playoffs. We went from the 2nd worst record in the entire NFL to tied for the 3rd.

I'm just not seeing the reason to celebrate.

Because you're a FAN, not a player, a coach or a GM.

 

[Chopper0080]

They have something working in Chicago. Don’t be surprised if they take Harrison #1 overall and then take the OT with the 2nd 1st round pick.

This is kind of like the idea that MHJ was going back to Ohio St, If the Bears aren't taking a QB, they will trade out of the 1 spot.

 

[Fitz4Ever]

Ok keep avoiding the obvious question I’m asking. Lol

Im telling you I dont understand the question! Are you saying that there were people saying we should have taken Rothlesberger over Fitz? I certainly wasnt one of those people...so Im not sure what you're saying.

Winning that game against the Vikings took us from #2 to #3 overall....and we could have picked Ben at any point but didnt. He was never in the conversation for a top 3 pick...never. Eli and Rivers were head and shoulders better prospects. I genuinely dont understand what you are trying to say.

 

[QuebecCard]

They have something working in Chicago. Don’t be surprised if they take Harrison #1 overall and then take the OT with the 2nd 1st round pick.

Why would they give up an opportunity to cash in on the #1 pick if they are not taking a QB?

 

[GatorAZ]

I wouldn't draft Daniels with a 10 foot pole

I think he’s a mid round pick but hopefully someone falls in love (looking at you New England!)

 

[Fitz4Ever]

Because you're a FAN, not a player, a coach or a GM.

And Im tired of being a fan that celebrates 4 wins! You seem to love it, but I would rather us actually improve and expect the Cardinals to not be an embarrassment year in and year out?? Is that wrong?

 

[Fitz4Ever]

Why would they give up an opportunity to cash in on the #1 pick if they are not taking a QB?

MHJ is the best prospect in the last several drafts...and you put him with Moore and they immediately have one of the best WR rooms in the NFL.

 

[oaken1]

There any other clear #1 WRs?

Odunze and Coleman...with Nabers being a freak of a 2 or slot

 

[Shane]

Im telling you I dont understand the question! Are you saying that there were people saying we should have taken Rothlesberger over Fitz? I certainly wasnt one of those people...so Im not sure what you're saying.

Winning that game against the Vikings took us from #2 to #3 overall....and we could have picked Ben at any point but didnt. He was never in the conversation for a top 3 pick...never. Eli and Rivers were head and shoulders better prospects. I genuinely dont understand what you are trying to say.

I clearly said In my earlier post that many people believed we should have taken Ben “in hindsight” so I’m asking you the same question. Or would you have stuck with Fitz at 3 even though he essentially brought nothing to this organization as far as sustained success is concerned.

The point I’m trying to make is regardless of possible losing MHJ we have no clue who we’re gonna end up with or their long term impact on the organization.

 

[Fitz4Ever]

So again you would rather the Cards lost against minny all those year ago and not taken Fitz? Instead grabbed Eli?

An awful lot of handwringing for a future none of you can see exactly how it’s gonna shake out?

Were you a fan in 2004? Are you under the impression that Eli would have refused to sign with San Diego...but WOULD have signed with us? We had no shot at Eli even if we got the #1 pick.

We were picking Fitz if he was available to us...that is not even a question. Denny would have picked him #1.

The only question would have been could we have gotten the #1 pick and then made a trade down like the Chargers did and STILL have gotten Fitz....sure I would take that all day...but there was no way we were taking any other player, or trading down if it meant we would have missed on Fitz.

 

[QuebecCard]

And Im tired of being a fan that celebrates 4 wins! You seem to love it, but I would rather us actually improve and expect the Cardinals to not be an embarrassment year in and year out?? Is that wrong?

And that can done starting with two picks in the first round and seven in the first 104 or so.

 

[Dr. Jones]

I wouldn't draft Daniels with a 10 foot pole

I think this forum will have some bias towards JD that doesn't exist nationally. But I probably agree with you slightly. lol

They have something working in Chicago. Don’t be surprised if they take Harrison #1 overall and then take the OT with the 2nd 1st round pick.

If they want MHJ over Caleb:

1. I will think they are nuts. Fields may get them the #10 pick from LV IMO.
2. They will trade back to 2, 3, or 4.

 

[Fitz4Ever]

I clearly said In my earlier post that many people believed we should have taken Ben “in hindsight” so I’m asking you the same question. Or would you have stuck with Fitz at 3 even though he essentially brought nothing to this organization as far as sustained success is concerned.

The point I’m trying to make is regardless of possible losing MHJ we have no clue who we’re gonna end up with or their long term impact on the organization.

Maybe some people thought that After Ben won 2 superbowls...but those people are slow adults. Ben's team went 15-1 his rookie year...and it wasnt because of him. He is also a rapist.

No, I would not have taken Rothlesberger over Fitz in any scenario, then or now.

Would you?

 

[BurqueCardFan]

Because you're a FAN, not a player, a coach or a GM.

I’m a fan of winning a championship. This win does nothing for our long term good. Not to mention, this win actually helps out Dallas and the 9ers.
The front office set this team up for failure from the get go.

 

[slanidrac16]

It says Nabers strength is playing out of true slot and not as strong outside.
Is that what we want?

 

[Dr. Jones]

Thinking about what Chicago has.....

Can you imagine leaving the draft with: Caleb Williams (#1), Nabers, Alt, or Odunze (#8)..... and then either Latu or Turner at #'s 10 or 11 (projecting Fields to either Atlanta or LV at 10 or 11)? Oooof... that's nice.

 

[Fitz4Ever]

And that can done starting with two picks in the first round and seven in the first 104 or so.

When we are considering paying Hollywood Brown as our #1 WR in the offseason because we lost out on MHJ and can't get a decent FA to sign with us....There wasnt a bigger need/fit than MHJ to the Cardinals. A #1 WR is arguably our biggest need, and there hasnt been a WR prospect this good since Calvin Johnson.

Now its completely out of our control. Maybe we will still end up with MHJ, but I doubt it. If we even consider another WR at #4 then Monti should be fired.

 

[football karma]

so:

1. we want NE to beat the Jets next week. That would give the Pats 5 wins.

2. Ironically, by beating Philly, the Cards gave Dallas a reason to play next week -- vs 4-win Washington.

3. If SEA and MIN both win today, then:

SEA will have something to play for next week. A MIN loss and a SEA win today sure looks to me like it puts SEA into the playoffs


Texans pick:

We really want Indy to beat the Texans next week.

That keeps the Texans out of the playoffs and drafting no higher than 18

 

[Fitz4Ever]

Thinking about what Chicago has.....

Can you imagine leaving the draft with: Caleb Williams, Nabers, Alt, or Odunze..... and then either Latu or Turner at 10 or 11 (projecting Fields to either Atlanta or LV at 10 or 11)? Oooof... that's nice.

More likely Williams @1, Alt or the PSU Tackle at #5, and Nabers @ 10.

 

[QuebecCard]

I’m a fan of winning a championship. This win does nothing for our long term good. Not to mention, this win actually helps out Dallas and the 9ers.

The front office set this team up for failure from the get go.

So, you're unhappy that the plan failed today, or are you crystalballing?

 

[Shane]

Maybe some people thought that After Ben won 2 superbowls...but those people are slow adults. Ben's team went 15-1 his rookie year...and it wasnt because of him. He is also a rapist.

No, I would not have taken Rothlesberger over Fitz in any scenario, then or now.

Would you?

Yes. His career success at the QB position imo far more valuable to a franchise than what Fitz brought to the table long term. I say that knowing Fitz was amazing and incredible HOF player for this team.

 

[Dr. Jones]

More likely Williams @1, Alt or the PSU Tackle at #5, and Nabers @ 10.

Nabers doesn't make it to 10. I think he's destined to be a Charger unless they completely blow it up on the DL. Then he might make it to 10 or 11.