Magic @ Suns

[Catlover]

I think its a combination of Booker's emergence and how inept Goodwin is at being the primary ball handler.

But I do agree that if a 2nd Sun is a part of any Markieff trade that Goodwin will almost certainly be the guy.

Maybe but Booker was already getting minutes. Price had been inactive for a couple of games until right around the time Goodwin disappeared from the lineup and he instantly returned to the lineup. Not that it rules out Goodwin being benched for poor ballhandling skills but he really hadn't been playing all that poorly when the DNP's started. At least not in comparison to how he played previously.

 

[Ronin]

I am glad to see the Suns pull out the victory.

 

[hcsilla]

Whatever is going on I have to believe also includes Goodwin. I can't see any reason to just completely forget about the guy the way Jeff has done, he's played less than a half hour total in our last dozen games.

If Goodwin indeed will be included in a Markieff-trade,that pretty much cancels Houston as a destination since they have a hard time matching Markieff's salary alone unless Lawson (3rd team needed) or Brewer (don't think that the Suns would take his contract) is involved as well.

 

[hcsilla]

Another possible destination for Markieff, Detroit could definitely use Goodwin (especially in absence of Meeks) and Joel Anthony becomes available on 15th December.

Then with the Anthony, Tolliver, Hillard, 2016 DET 1st rounder for Markieff, Goodwin swap the Pistons can acquire Morris without giving up any valuable players,

 

[slinslin]

I think its a combination of Booker's emergence and how inept Goodwin is at being the primary ball handler.

But I do agree that if a 2nd Sun is a part of any Markieff trade that Goodwin will almost certainly be the guy.

Booker's emergence? He did basically nothing last night.

Booker is inconsistent just like Goodwin, Goodwin had a few productive games this year when he got minutes.

 

[JS22]

Don't get me wrong, I am glad we hung on for the win. But wasn't that a foul by Len on that last play?

great game by Len otherwise by the way

Looks like we are on a 2 game winning streak!

Not at all.

If anything it should have been offensive for jumping sideways into Len.

 

[JS22]

Suns making it harder than it should be again but we'll take the win. Tele and Leuer are turning out to be surprise additions and Book is getting valuable minutes. Even my ol' foe Alex had a game worthy of a #5 pick....finally.

He's had plenty of good games.

Len is fine. Just needs consistent minutes.

 

[overseascardfan]

That seems quite likely, IMO.

Deals with:

HOU - probably needs McDaniels
WAS - probably needs Gooden

due salary reasons and both will be available for trades starting from 15th.

The known names in possible trades are Terrence Jones & Ryan Anderson. Would rather acquire one of them and see how the rest of the season goes. If they don't pan out then don't re-sign them. I would prefer Anderson as he is the better shooter.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Not at all.

If anything it should have been offensive for jumping sideways into Len.

They used to call that a foul but they changed it, and I am so glad. I always hated it when a player was was playing good tight fundamentally sound defense and the offensive player would throw himself forward into the defender while throwing up a shot that went nowhere near the hoop and would draw the foul. That's not good basketball and it should not be rewarded.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Booker's emergence? He did basically nothing last night.

Booker is inconsistent just like Goodwin, Goodwin had a few productive games this year when he got minutes.

Give it up Slin. Goodwin is not close to Booker's level. Booker has had consistently good game, and even last night, he was a postive presence on the court. A shooting guard has to be able to shoot. We are not going to develop both Booker and Goodwin going forward. And boy would I be pissed if they chose Goodwin over Booker.

 

[ArizonaSportsFan]

Give it up Slin. Goodwin is not close to Booker's level. Booker has had consistently good game, and even last night, he was a postive presence on the court. A shooting guard has to be able to shoot. We are not going to develop both Booker and Goodwin going forward. And boy would I be pissed if they chose Goodwin over Booker.

I know, right? And Knight sucks (does dumb stuff), and Bledsoe is the cat's pajamas (also does dumb stuff).

 

[hcsilla]

The known names in possible trades are Terrence Jones & Ryan Anderson.

If we had a deal with the Pelicans for Anderson, it already would have went down, we shouldn't have to wait till 15th and to DNP Markieff.

 

[Catlover]

The known names in possible trades are Terrence Jones & Ryan Anderson. Would rather acquire one of them and see how the rest of the season goes. If they don't pan out then don't re-sign them. I would prefer Anderson as he is the better shooter.

I prefer Mirza as he is an even better shooter than Anderson. Jones can rebound, defend and bang. Strengths we lack. And he's younger.

 

[Iceman]

To me that second win against the Bulls gave this Suns team some confidence. They are starting to gel together and looked good these last 2 road games. Hopefully they come home and take care of business against the Blazers and T-Wolves

 

[leclerc]

Still cannot understand why Price is in front of Goodwin off the bench.

 

[Chaplin]

Still cannot understand why Price is in front of Goodwin off the bench.

I think it's pretty clear. If Goodwin can't get in the game before Price, he must be pretty bad.

 

[nashman]

Because Goodwin is terrible and probably getting traded...

 

[Phrazbit]

Booker's emergence? He did basically nothing last night.

Booker is inconsistent just like Goodwin, Goodwin had a few productive games this year when he got minutes.

Yes, he has a game where he didn't have much of a statistical impact. But you know what he didn't do? Handle the ball like he was on PCP, make insane gambles every time the ball is near him on defense...

Aaaand its worth pointing out that Booker has made 15 threes on 21 attempts... Goodwin has made 19 threes in his career.

So yes, IMO its a combination of Booker's emergence and Goodwin's inability to run the offense.

 

[Bert]

I dont know if it's just me, but even when we are losing, the more Hornacek plays the young guys, the more I like this team.

I would rather watch Goodwin and Booker go out there and find their games than watch anyone else. Morris, Tucker, Price can all stay on the bench for the most part IMO. And I dont dislike PJ, or Price for that matter, I just think it's a far more likable team that gives me more hope when the young guys get in there. I think they have a higher ceiling with those young guys playing more too just in terms of competitiveness (is that a word? lol)

 

[BC867]

Booker's emergence? He did basically nothing last night.

Booker is inconsistent just like Goodwin, Goodwin had a few productive games this year when he got minutes.

"When he got minutes". How true! What is inconsistent about Devin Booker this season is his playing time.

And a coach who has been more worried about keeping all of his players happy than choosing his best rotation and letting it gel. It has taken this long to get hints that he might be moving slowly in the right direction.

Hornacek averaged 19.5 minutes in his rookie season. He has given Booker only 14.5 minutes on an irregular basis. And Booker is a 6'6" true shooting guard with an amazing 3-point performance. Jeff was small for a '2' at 6'3".

 

[Phrazbit]

"When he got minutes". How true! What is inconsistent about Devin Booker this season is his playing time.

And a coach who has been more worried about keeping all of his players happy than choosing his best rotation and letting it gel. It has taken this long to get hints that he might be moving slowly in the right direction.

Hornacek averaged 19.5 minutes in his rookie season. He has given Booker only 14.5 minutes on an irregular basis. And Booker is a 6'6" true shooting guard with an amazing 3-point performance. Jeff was small for a '2' at 6'3".

Booker just turned 19 and I believe is the youngest player in the NBA, Horny was coming off a 4 year college.

I know you don't really watch the games much but Booker's been getting pretty regular minutes since the first couple weeks of the season. And I think if posters here were told prior to the year that Booker would be getting the minutes he is they'd be thrilled... or they'd assume our guards had been hit by injuries. I doubt anyone thought he'd get that much burn this fast at such a young age.

So far in December Booker is actually exceeding the minutes that Hornacek was getting in December of his rookie year.

 

[JustWinBaby]

Booker's emergence? He did basically nothing last night.

Booker is inconsistent just like Goodwin, Goodwin had a few productive games this year when he got minutes.

Did you watch the game? Booker is probably our most consistent player. He rarely makes an error on either end of the court. I wish he were getting more minutes but his minutes have been pretty consistent recently.

If you are talking about his scoring being inconsistent, you are correct. He only took two shots because our great back court cannot get him the ball. When he did get the ball he did not force up shots that were not there.

Hornacek has finally figured out that he should be on the court more but now he has to get him more involved in the offense. Bledsoe and Knight pass the ball to others but for some reason seem to never find Booker.

Len was more involved tonight which is a good thing now Booker has to be more involved.

We are finally starting to look like a team. I hope they continue to improve.

 

[Hoop Head]

Did you watch the game?

Asking Slin if he watched the game won't get a response. I've tried in the past and I don't think he watches any of the games. He seems to judge solely based on box score stats plus PER.

 

[JS22]

I dont know if it's just me, but even when we are losing, the more Hornacek plays the young guys, the more I like this team.

I would rather watch Goodwin and Booker go out there and find their games than watch anyone else. Morris, Tucker, Price can all stay on the bench for the most part IMO. And I dont dislike PJ, or Price for that matter, I just think it's a far more likable team that gives me more hope when the young guys get in there. I think they have a higher ceiling with those young guys playing more too just in terms of competitiveness (is that a word? lol)

I don't hate Tucker. Solid defender and brings the intensity. What I mainly hate is his constant "pump fake at the 3 point line then fumble around and take a terrible shot or turn the ball over" routine. He'd be a nice fit on a championship team. A lot like Bruce Bowen actually. Defend and take the open 3.

 

[JS22]

"When he got minutes". How true! What is inconsistent about Devin Booker this season is his playing time.

And a coach who has been more worried about keeping all of his players happy than choosing his best rotation and letting it gel. It has taken this long to get hints that he might be moving slowly in the right direction.

Hornacek averaged 19.5 minutes in his rookie season. He has given Booker only 14.5 minutes on an irregular basis. And Booker is a 6'6" true shooting guard with an amazing 3-point performance. Jeff was small for a '2' at 6'3".

To be fair he has been getting more minutes recently. And he should. He's the best shooter on this team by a mile and is smart with the ball. 19 years old and only going to get better. The Suns most likely got the steal of this draft IMO. Can't wait to see what he can do in 3-4 years.