Mandatory camp week. 06/13/23-06/14/23

[Chopper0080]

Also, several blocking TEs are on the market. No rush to sign Richard Rogers (and probably no rush to him either) until you know Ertz won't be healthy.

 

[BritCard]

I hope the Cardinals will start Paris Johnson at RT. I'm tired of seeing Beachum out there knowing he is a year to year proposition. Johnson has looked the part so far.

I'm sure they will. It's where he's been lining up so far and it just makes sense.

 

[Chopper0080]

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A complaint I had with Kliff is that I didn't think he ever hammered out an identity. Same with Keim and what type of players he wanted to bring in. I like that Gannon and Monti seem to be emphasizing the "professional" trait. I don't know that it will work, but at least they are trying to establish some sort of identity.

 

[Chopper0080]

I'm sure they will. It's where he's been lining up so far and it just makes sense.

The Cardinals doing what "makes sense" is not always a given.

 

[MadCardDisease]

I hope the Cardinals will start Paris Johnson at RT. I'm tired of seeing Beachum out there knowing he is a year to year proposition. Johnson has looked the part so far.

I would like to see PJ at RT as well. Let him get as much experience at RT before Kyler comes back. Then you have your bookend OTs in place with solid experience headed into the 2024 season.

 

[MadCardDisease]

Also, several blocking TEs are on the market. No rush to sign Richard Rogers (and probably no rush to him either) until you know Ertz won't be healthy.

Also consider that Zach Pascal is one of the better blocking WR in the league. He can be used like a TE in a 3 TE formation.

 

[Chopper0080]

I would like to see PJ at RT as well. Let him get as much experience at RT before Kyler comes back. Then you have your bookend OTs in place with solid experience headed into the 2024 season.

I just know it will be a great class for LTs in the 2024 draft, and I need to make sure Johnson can be a fit at RT.

 

[Chopper0080]

Also consider that Zach Pascal is one of the better blocking WR in the league. He can be used like a TE in a 3 TE formation.

A good blocking WR is the equivalent of a bad blocking TE. Strong disagreement with your take. If anything, I would argue that the Cardinals may run more Pascal in the slot in 3WR packages to bolster our running game out of those personnel packages.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I hope the Cardinals will start Paris Johnson at RT. I'm tired of seeing Beachum out there knowing he is a year to year proposition. Johnson has looked the part so far.

That is where he is getting the reps at minicamp...

 

[RON_IN_OC]

I would like to see PJ at RT as well. Let him get as much experience at RT before Kyler comes back. Then you have your bookend OTs in place with solid experience headed into the 2024 season.

I want PJ out there, too...mainly because no matter what's been said publicly, I doubt Kyler has 100% faith in Beach, after all of the off-season garbage (right or wrong).

 

[Krangodnzr]

I just know it will be a great class for LTs in the 2024 draft, and I need to make sure Johnson can be a fit at RT.

I like Johnson, but I think he's maybe the third LT in next year's draft. Granted Alt and Fashanu look like the could be multiple time All Pro types, so I don't really mean it as a knock on Johnson.

 

[Chopper0080]

That is where he is getting the reps at minicamp...

I don't take minicamp as any sort of given.

 

[Chopper0080]

I like Johnson, but I think he's maybe the third LT in next year's draft. Granted Alt and Fashanu look like the could be multiple time All Pro types, so I don't really mean it as a knock on Johnson.

I would agree that both Alt and Fashanu are better prospects. Latham could be really good as well.

 

[cardncubfan]

That is where he is getting the reps at minicamp...

As the #1 as well. Beachum has been #2 behind him.

 

[Chopper0080]

MHJr, Fashanu and Tuimoloau are my top 3 non-QB hopes for next year's draft right now.

 

[WisconsinCard]

One area I will praise the Cardinals regarding their roster. Plenty of vet RB, C, DT, and LBs available to sign before training camp so I don't mind waiting and getting more of a look at the current players on the roster. No reason to bring Kareem Hunt to take June reps from Keaontay Ingram. Monti and Gannon probably have an idea of who will stick but getting more looks at a player like Wims to ensure he can't be a 6th WR does matter.

Wims was cut yesterday, so I guess they got enough looks to say he can't make the team.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

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[Ronin]

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[HairZach]

A complaint I had with Kliff is that I didn't think he ever hammered out an identity. Same with Keim and what type of players he wanted to bring in. I like that Gannon and Monti seem to be emphasizing the "professional" trait. I don't know that it will work, but at least they are trying to establish some sort of identity.

I think "speed kills" was what we were trying for under Kliff. Lots of undersized fast guys.

 

[CardNots]

Wims was cut yesterday, so I guess they got enough looks to say he can't make the team.

Not necessarily as they keep a flyer on everyone they workout. He might return in the future.

 

[Krangodnzr]

MHJr, Fashanu and Tuimoloau are my top 3 non-QB hopes for next year's draft right now.

I like Verse a lot too. He had a 24% pressure rates last year which is pretty sick. I do think he is a bit more of a 3-4 OLB.

Jer'Zhan Newton is another guy who will go really high. I think he can be an elite 3T.

 

[BritCard]

A good blocking WR is the equivalent of a bad blocking TE. Strong disagreement with your take. If anything, I would argue that the Cardinals may run more Pascal in the slot in 3WR packages to bolster our running game out of those personnel packages.

I disagree with your disagreement

I know what you are saying, a bad blocking TE will likely be as good at blocking as a good WR head to head.

But the assignments will be different. A good blocking WR will do his job blocking a safety or a CB. Allowing the play to succeed.

A bad blocking TE will fluff his assignment against an OLB or MLB.

On the field they aren't really comparible, they are doing different things.

 

[Ronin]

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[DVontel]

Tuimoloau

Why?

Dude has been living on HS hype.

 

[Chopper0080]

I like Verse a lot too. He had a 24% pressure rates last year which is pretty sick. I do think he is a bit more of a 3-4 OLB.

Jer'Zhan Newton is another guy who will go really high. I think he can be an elite 3T.

I am holding off on EDGE guys until I see what our defense looks like this year.