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Totally_Red
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So Jim Trotter's tweet of a couple days ago has legs. Anybody seen Michael Bidwill's plane take off?
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Peyton, how do you feel about getting sacked?
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The O line MUST improve....it couldn't get any suckier (is that a word?)....maybe a golf outing promise by Whiz about goin after some decent replacements could convince PM.
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Doesn't matter what Manning thinks, the board says Whiz sucks so he must be awful.
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Lol. Whiz is AT BEST an average NFL coach. He makes questionable personel moves, gets guys that don't fit the system, dismantled a playoff roster in two years and replaced core players with aging vets or young unproven sometimes late round draft picks. If the Cards get Manning and dump Kolb a guy they hitched the franchise to, traded a second round pick AND a Pro Bowl corner for 8 months after acquiring him acquiring Kolb will go down as the biggest dumb eff move in Cardinals history. In fact trading for a WC offense QB and inserting him in this offense was stupid in its own right. With DG guys Whisenhunt is 27-21 with his roster he is sitting on 13-19. But for a miraculous turnaround at the second half of the season we are talking about good coaching candidates, not acquiring PM. Yes he is the best coach in Arizona Cardinals history. Big deal, that's like saying a Honda Civic is the best car in a third world country.
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Totally_Red
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You are soooooooo right! This board should be coaching in the NFL. It is totally irrelevant that Whis was the offensive coordinator when Pittsburgh won the Super Bowl and that his 2008 Arizona Cardinals went to the Super Bowl. The fact remains that he is a total idiot.
(I still think the franchise way overpaid for Kevin Kolb.)
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Well I'm glad you feel that way, but nobody with any real affiliation with or knowledge of the NFL agrees with you at all. Ignorance is bliss....
BAHAHAHAHA. He did what?? Yes he got rid of Leinart for a lesser player in DA but he did it because Leinart was a prick and the team hated him. I can respect that. In the end, do you think Matty would've stayed healthy? Would a 7-9 season made you feel any better? I'll take the crap season and Peterson.
What PB corner did we give up?? Last I checked, DRC was the 4th CB on the Eagles roster and a laughingstock in the league. Since you apparently have been living under a rock let me break this down for you. Fitz needed us to sign Kolb as a good faith deal that we were making an effort and that was integral in re-signing #11. Was a second rounder and a scrub DB worth keeping Fitz for the remainder of his career? If you think that ranks anywhere near the dumber moves in Cardinal history then you must be a newbie, brother.
When did Kolb become a WC quarterback. He most def was not at Houston.... You do realize that with zero familiarity in the o last year and a horrendous line, he still posted an 80+ QBR (better than your boy Skelton btw..)
And what was DG's record with those same guys??? We were good because of a few guys. The roster as a whole is SIGNIFICANTLY better now then it was in the SB run. Players leave, especially after winning a SB. Most people learn that when they turn ten....
But Whiz had nothing to do with that, right? How hard is it to grasp that we had almost an entire new team last year and new defense? Anyone with half a brain would have known that it would take a while to gel.....
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I was being sarcastic....You are soooooooo right! This board should be coaching in the NFL. It is totally irrelevant that Whis was the offensive coordinator when Pittsburgh won the Super Bowl and that his 2008 Arizona Cardinals went to the Super Bowl. The fact remains that he is a total idiot.
(I still think the franchise way overpaid for Kevin Kolb.)
Sorry guys. I meant to say this.
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With DG guys Whisenhunt is 27-21 with his roster he is sitting on 13-19.
I guess you also believe that Jim Harbaugh has nothing to do with San Francisco's great season. He was playing with mike singletery's guys? Laughable.
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With DG guys Whisenhunt is 27-21 with his roster he is sitting on 13-19.
I guess you also believe that Jim Harbaugh has nothing to do with San Francisco's great season. He was playing with mike singletery's guys? Laughable.
Looks like there is still smoke Shane 
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No, Harbaugh did have a lot to do with SF with Singleterry's guys just like Whisenhunt had a lot to do with success with Greens guys. Is Harbaugh a great HC? I don't know, time will tell. Is Whis a great HC? I don't know time will tell. I think that answer hinges on this season and the direction of the Cardinals. Right now my opinion is that Whis is average to above average. I base this on core players leaving and guys like Porter getting significant playing time despite it being painfully obvious he was done. Levi moving to LT despite it being obvious he is a RT, guys like Stewart Bradley coming in with a significant contract and being put in a 3-4 despite playing in a 4-3 and being injured. Here's what i do know Whisenhunt is starting his 7th season and is on his 8th QB, maybe 9th is we get Manning. This team has signaled to Kolb they are at the very best unsure of him after 8 short months after betting the farm on him and giving him a huge contract.
Yes Cardsfanmd I do give Whisenhunt a lot of credit for the turn around. He did a nice job at the second half of the season. But now we will see how good he is. This is his roster now. It's his show. I hope he does well and wins a lot of playoff games. The potential is there with him. To answer your other questions, DRC was a Pro Bowler and yes the Cardinals could have used him last year. Philly does run a West Coast offense. Yes the Cardinals were desperate to resign Fitz, but if they planned for Warner's departure better they would not have been in that situation. No, I am no more of a Skelton guy than I am a Kolb guy and never once did I say I was, I think it's much too early to give up on Kolb.
Lastly, there's a fine line between arguing a point and arguing a point and being nasty about it. You seem to prefer the latter as indicated by your numerous bans from this board. I never once attacked you or any other persons opinion on here. I expect the same courtesy in return. I find it ironic you can label me as "ignorant" instead of arguing your point in a civialized manner. Consider for a moment that people have opinions that may differ from your own.
Yes Cardsfanmd I do give Whisenhunt a lot of credit for the turn around. He did a nice job at the second half of the season. But now we will see how good he is. This is his roster now. It's his show. I hope he does well and wins a lot of playoff games. The potential is there with him. To answer your other questions, DRC was a Pro Bowler and yes the Cardinals could have used him last year. Philly does run a West Coast offense. Yes the Cardinals were desperate to resign Fitz, but if they planned for Warner's departure better they would not have been in that situation. No, I am no more of a Skelton guy than I am a Kolb guy and never once did I say I was, I think it's much too early to give up on Kolb.
Lastly, there's a fine line between arguing a point and arguing a point and being nasty about it. You seem to prefer the latter as indicated by your numerous bans from this board. I never once attacked you or any other persons opinion on here. I expect the same courtesy in return. I find it ironic you can label me as "ignorant" instead of arguing your point in a civialized manner. Consider for a moment that people have opinions that may differ from your own.
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I don't think anyone disputes this. We put ourselves in a desperate situation, and had to over-pay to try and dig ourselves out. It was a bit of a "Hail-Mary" attempt to land a decent QB.
The book on Kolb may not yet be closed. I don't have a lot of faith that we'll actually sign Peyton... if not, we're looking at Kolb under center for at least two more years. (assuming concussions don't drive him out of the league sooner.)
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Putting out feelers doens't mean he wants anything.
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I agree "wants" is too strong a word
but -- it does mean that Peyton considers Arizona a legitimate contender
to me it confirms that the Cardinals are on his "short list"
crisper57
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There is mutual interest at least. I still think that some of the teams that are pursuing him have no shot in Hell at landing him (WSH/SEA/NYJ). From this report, it sounds like we at least have the opportunity to make our pitch. That's something.
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It could mean that, but it's far more likely that Peyton put out feelers to a bunch of clubs.
Sometimes when that happens, the feelers are substantially legit. But sometimes they're put out merely as a courtesy to show respect to a friend or two (like Wiz?) and not because it's all that serious.
crisper57
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Reports are that he doesn't want the Redskins. So at least there is no similar report for AZ.
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so the only rumors is that he want to play in afc..but this go agaisnt the other rumors that he want to play ina dome and stay in a place with nice weather..
wilycoyote24
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I hate you all. This is just a rumor. There are thousands of them an off season. This is just setting us all up for disappointment... Nevertheless, you now have me interested! I hold you all responsible for this.
crisper57
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AFC shouldn't really be a factor. I think the biggest factor is this: Will MIA be willing to sign him sight-unseen? Will they throw money at him without working him out? I don't think the Bidwills would be willing to do that. So if Peyton wants a new home but is not yet ready to show off his arm, the most irresponsible owner would win.
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Ill be glad when this is over!
Chopper0080
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And I think that is exactly what they will do. The reports that he is making progress will have to be enough for the team that signs him because you are signing the QB that he will be in Aug, not March. Most likely the contract will have an injury clause, but whomever signs him will be taking a huge leap of faith. John Skelton is why the Cardinals can do this.
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