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Marion May Skip U.S. Team
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Great, his body starts to break down. Welcome to the All-plantar fasciitis team with Brad Miller, Sam Cassell, Larry Hughes and Bobby Simmons, Shawn.
elindholm
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No, no, remember that Marion's athleticism will always be where it was early in his career, he's always going to be a superior contributor on both ends of the floor, and anyone who believes otherwise is a hater.
The good news is that Marion has a low pain tolerance, so he is probably raising the white flag early. That's critical with plantar fasciitis, which can bother a player intermittently for a year or more if the player insists on trying to play through it.
The good news is that Marion has a low pain tolerance, so he is probably raising the white flag early. That's critical with plantar fasciitis, which can bother a player intermittently for a year or more if the player insists on trying to play through it.
Chaplin
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What is the point of this except to incite others?
elindholm
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The point is, it is spectacularly annoying when someone points out a legitimate concern with the Suns and the self-proclaimed "voices of reason" retort with character assassination. It's not being a hater or a pessimist to be concerned about the immediate future of this team. Sitting tight and hoping for everything to go perfectly isn't going to get it done.
Gorilla
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I am not sure, but isn't Duncan on this team also?
elindholm
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Yep, Duncan was bothered by it throughout '05-'06. His game is less dependent upon athleticism, however.
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I'm glad Marion is resting for whatever reason. I wish Amare were as well. FIBA basketball is different than NBA basketball so unless these two universes converge with the same rules, I'd just as soon Suns players stay home. Not much is proven.
I echo these sentiments.
Isn't going to get what done? How is a fan worrying or not worrying about Marion right now going to accomplish anything?
Must have been a side effect of his feet shuffling.
IIRC, 05-06 was the worst season of Duncan's career, statistically wise.
We better hope that doesn't become a recurrent condition for Marion, especially after seeing how plantar fasciitis basically destroyed Brad Miller, a guy you'd hardly call athletic.
elindholm
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Then why talk about anything? It's a message board. The options are discuss only positive things, discuss things realistically, or leave the board silent.
Treesquid PhD
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Well at least once his feet and legs go, Marion has his vastly improved outside game to bank on.
I have a slight case of plantar fasciitis myself, I got custom insoles from a pediatrist and its been mostly better since then. It shoulddn't be too big of a deal for Marion, better for him to rest and be safe rather than sorry.
Chaplin
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And sometimes resort to sarcastic remarks intended to incite others.
elindholm
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I guess from context you must be intending that as a barb at me, but in fact almost the entire board does it. I'm about in the middle of the range.
The difference is that when one of the rose-glass optimists resorts to sarcasm, the other rose-glass optimists tend not to notice, because the rejoinder is in line with what they hold to be a universal, unassailable truth -- specifically, that the only proper way to be a fan is to "support" the team regardless of its actions, and always take on blind faith that every move they make is the correct one.
Chaplin
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You may be right, but this thread had nothing of the sort until you posted, and the "everybody does it" defense isn't exactly the strongest. But like I said, your overall point is probably correct, I just think you went about displaying it in the wrong way.
I'm not inclined to draw more from this than the conclusion that he won't be on the USA team. I hope it is nothing more than a minor issue. Unlike Eric I'm disinclined to make a medical diagnosis based on a news report.
Seriously, I think it makes sense to cut back on his international play. It isn't going to help him become a better player and he plays more minutes during the season than anyone. As with Nash, IMHO his play during the season should be budgeted with more attention to the playoffs.
On the other hand, I think that having Amare play on the USA team is a great opportunity for him to practice against elite players. Playing defense against Burke and Marks is not really much help in learning to play against Duncan or any other of the top big men.
Seriously, I think it makes sense to cut back on his international play. It isn't going to help him become a better player and he plays more minutes during the season than anyone. As with Nash, IMHO his play during the season should be budgeted with more attention to the playoffs.
On the other hand, I think that having Amare play on the USA team is a great opportunity for him to practice against elite players. Playing defense against Burke and Marks is not really much help in learning to play against Duncan or any other of the top big men.
elindholm
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What difference does it make whether it was in this thread? Threads don't exist in isolation.
It wasn't a defense; I was pointing out the fallacy of accusing me of being sarcastic when it's the standard way of disagreeing on this board -- and when, in fact, you were sarcastic yourself in the very post that called me out for it.
And as an encore...
azirish said:
Yeah, real cute. You know perfectly well that I do know such thing -- or rather, you would know it perfectly well, if you had any reading comprehension skills or ever thought about anyone's posts except your own. Which reminds me, aren't you behind schedule today in creating new threads?
Do you think D'Antoni is making it up? He was joking? Misquoted? The diagnosis is faulty? Seriously, what possible grounds are there for doubting that Marion has some plantar fasciitis? Sure, it may clear up quickly -- in fact, I alluded to as much, in my initial post -- but he has it.
The hit-and-run crap on this board is really getting out of hand. If you want to have a disagreement, great, but stand up like an adult and engage the discussion with real content.
Gimmer a break. Have you zero sense of humor today? You are generally pretty civilized.
Nothing wrong with sharing of opinions whether they be optimistic or pessimistic, but expecting that feeling one way or another is actually going to get anything done is a bit of a reach.
Chaplin
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Eric, this is inciting others. Period. Coming back and saying, "well, everyone else does it" doesn't make it right, and you know it. You are definitely much more civilized than this, although recently you have tended to take subtle jabs at people.
Nobody is arguing about the state of the message board--it's just difficult to believe that you are that easily able to post something "to their level". My question to you was why you said the above when it is quite obviously only to incite others. How is that sarcastic? I was simply asking why you had to lower yourself to that level in order to make everyone either a) get angry at the subtle insult, or b) make yourself look like your opinion is better than everyone elses?
I guess that smily faces are not enough to make it clear when someone is kidding. I sure had no intention to escalate into a big brawl.
I actually had a point (as I inexcusably get back to the topic), I honestly cannot tell from the article how serious Marion's plantar fasciitis condition is. Unless I'm mistaken, it ranges from just another "play through the pain" ailment to totally debilitating. I'm not clear on whether there is much they can do about it other than limit the amount of pounding.
Without knowing the severity makes it all but impossible to intelligently suggest anything. If it really is serve, then it would make sense to dump Marion for whatever they can get. If it isn't, then making a panic move would be ill advised.
Unfortunately, even a hint of plantar fasciitis and Marion's trade value could easily drop like a rock. My hope is that it not serous and doing a different training regime that reduces the pounding will help him recover. But beyond that, I'm not sure there is much the Suns can do.
I actually had a point (as I inexcusably get back to the topic), I honestly cannot tell from the article how serious Marion's plantar fasciitis condition is. Unless I'm mistaken, it ranges from just another "play through the pain" ailment to totally debilitating. I'm not clear on whether there is much they can do about it other than limit the amount of pounding.
Without knowing the severity makes it all but impossible to intelligently suggest anything. If it really is serve, then it would make sense to dump Marion for whatever they can get. If it isn't, then making a panic move would be ill advised.
Unfortunately, even a hint of plantar fasciitis and Marion's trade value could easily drop like a rock. My hope is that it not serous and doing a different training regime that reduces the pounding will help him recover. But beyond that, I'm not sure there is much the Suns can do.
Errntknght
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Just yesterday I was thinking maybe Mike Sander's plea for us to be more civilized had had some effect...
