Marion Status for Game 2...

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Chaplin said:
Not if you bite the bullet and agree... :D

to be honest - I'd play devil's advocated with myself - one because I'm bored - two because I'm putting off figuring out what the hell I'm gonna do with my car. There will be no biting of any bullets today my friend!
 

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cheesebeef said:
if he can't shoot and can't dribble he's a liability out there. He won't go hard up for boards if his hand is throbbing. Basically - he'd be TR Dunn.

Screw that - I say they rest him in Game 2, everyone steps up their game - prove what kind of team they really are, take a 2-0 series lead and give him as much rest as possible.

If they took Game 2 without Shawn, I'd even rest him for Game 3. Again - it ain't about getting out of the first round - it's about winning the championship. If we are as confident as we say we are about winning on the road, risking game 2 at home for the betterment of the entire playoffs shouldn't be that big a deal - especially when you consider that we SHOULD beat this squad without Marion at home regardless. We are the best damn team in the NBA - go out and prove it and don't risk the entirety of the playoffs in Game 2 against an inferior opponent.

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I nominate this thread for worst thread of the year. This thread is like the Dan Langhi of threads...
 

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Marion expects to play Wednesday

Associated Press
Apr. 26, 2005 04:00 PM

PHOENIX - Phoenix's turbocharged version of small-ball wouldn't work without Shawn Marion.

So the Suns and their fans should be relieved that a sprained right wrist probably won't keep the high-flying forward out of Game 2 against the Memphis Grizzlies on Wednesday night.

"Right now, it's feeling better, so that's a good thing," Marion said Tuesday.
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If he feels similar improvement on Wednesday, there's no doubt that he will play, he said.

"I'll probably play anyway," Marion said. "I don't like to sit out. If I can walk, I'm going to play. That's the way I feel about it."

Marion had 26 points and 13 rebounds in the Suns' 114-103 victory over Memphis in the opener of the best-of-seven series Sunday night.

In that game, he fell to the court writhing in pain when he was hit hard by Shane Battier on a breakaway layup. Marion stayed in the game but did not practice Monday and Tuesday.

Marion admittedly has a low pain threshold. "I hate pain," he said.

So Suns coach Mike D'Antoni has downplayed the significance of the injury.

"He's going to be fine," D'Antoni said. "There's nothing broke. He could be a little sore but once he gets revved up and ready to go, I don't see a problem. Now it could happen during the game he gets hit again. That's probably the biggest worry."

Marion's ability to, as a natural small forward, play the power forward spot has been crucial to the Suns' ability to play a racehorse version basketball, winning 62 games and averaging 110 points.

"He's probably one of the most underrated all-stars in recent memory," Battier said, "but guys who play against him know what he can do. He's a double-double waiting to happen. You really can't put a big guy on him, he just runs around him. When you go small, it sort of plays into their hands."

Memphis coach Mike Fratello has toyed with the idea of going with a smaller lineup, but said it's difficult to make any big changes at this stage of the season.

"I'm not sure that when you get to the playoffs, you can take a whole plan and throw it away," he said. "You build on things. You build to try to get better at and execute better at both ends of the floor. You may need adjustments, but a lot of it sometimes comes down to just do it better, just do it harder - quicker, faster, better."

Besides, if Memphis goes small, "it just goes down to who's got the better smalls," Steve Nash said.

There's no doubt who that would be.

The Grizzlies, then, probably will stay with their plan to clog the middle to slow the pick-and-roll that Nash and Amare Stoudemire run so well, while at the same time doing a better job of defending the perimeter, where the Suns made a franchise playoff record 15 3-pointers in 32 attempts.

Stoudemire, who averaged 26 points per game this season, scored just nine in his playoff debut, and it wasn't all because of the Memphis defense.

"I don't think he had a great game, personally," D'Antoni said. "I think he missed some things that would have given him maybe 18 points. But if they're not going to allow him to go to the basket and get easy dunks and things like that, that just means that they have allowed us to shoot outside."

Stoudemire acknowledged that he was a bit too tense at the start.

"I really wanted to go to the rack pretty strong and put a little pressure on the defense," he said, "but I think Game 2 I'll be more relaxed and more comfortable out there and play my style of game."

That style includes the mid-range jumpers that made him so much more of a threat this season.

"I was trying to go into them and draw some fouls in the paint," Stoudemire said. "I had a couple of opportunities to shoot the jumper and I turned it down to get to the basket. It's going to be a little different tomorrow night."

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"I'll probably play anyway," Marion said. "I don't like to sit out. If I can walk, I'm going to play. That's the way I feel about it."

That's EXACTLY what I wanted to hear!
 

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is anyone else expecting us to crush them tomorrow? Man - it's been a LOOOONNNNGGGG time since I was this confident about one of my favorite teams!
 

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cepstrum said:
I nominate this thread for worst thread of the year. This thread is like the Dan Langhi of threads...

Listen, Dan Langhi is spending a lot of time in the gym right now trying to hone his game and get better. It's extremely uninformed of you to just start bashing him for the sake of a joke. People who really follow Dan Langhi know that he's getting better and that things are really starting to change in his career.
 

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fordronken said:
Listen, Dan Langhi is spending a lot of time in the gym right now trying to hone his game and get better. It's extremely uninformed of you to just start bashing him for the sake of a joke. People who really follow Dan Langhi know that he's getting better and that things are really starting to change in his career.

you playing at the laugh factory this weekend ford?
 

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fordronken said:
Listen, Dan Langhi is spending a lot of time in the gym right now trying to hone his game and get better. It's extremely uninformed of you to just start bashing him for the sake of a joke. People who really follow Dan Langhi know that he's getting better and that things are really starting to change in his career.

I'm sorry Dan, I didn't mean to offend you :D
 

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I don't understand the idea that Shawn Marion is soft physically. I don't even agree necessarily that he is soft mentally. I mean how many games has he missed in the last five years... 15-20 at the most?

Nope. He's missed 8 games. He missed 13 games his rookie season.

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The main basis for the claim he was soft was that Marion did not go to the basket the way Maggette does. No one else does either. But Marion does attack the basket much more than he used to and is very effective when he does.

In any case, Marion probably faces the biggest size mismatches game in and game out of any player in the NBA and doesn't back down. :notworthy
 

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anyone have a better video than the one posted. i've seen replays on tv (slow motion vid from above the backboard).

grizz fans are calling it a playoff fou, something that should be expected during playoff basketballl. i'm calling it a stupid move...not necessarily flagrant or thuggish, but more of a guy doing something stupid and dangerous.
 

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It was reckless, but there's no way to play hard if you're constantly worried that someone might accidentally get hurt. I didn't have a problem with it, by NBA playoff foul standards.
 

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