Mavericks vs Suns SL Game Thread 7/6/18

[Chaplin]

Ahh, but you should have seen Bo Outlaw. Greatness personified.

Most entertaining summer league player EVER!!

 

[JCSunsfan]

Most entertaining summer league player EVER!!

He would play in various leagues all summer, just for fun.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Interesting thing that Igor said. They will approach every game seeking a win. This was a game with a lot of players contributing. There was no desire to just showcase a player, no matter how high he was picked.

For you fantasy guys, Booker's stats might drop a bit this year as the Suns start to play more like a team. People will start second guessing the max extension then, and it will be foolish to do so.

 

[Carolinacacti]

Boy a line up with Booker, Bridges, Reed, Peters, and ayton could get you back in a game. Or light some team up,
The glasses on King bothered him but he can shoot too.

 

[Finito]

Ahh, but you should have seen Bo Outlaw. Greatness personified.

I loved that guy every team needs a guy like him

 

[Phrazbit]

Interesting thing that Igor said. They will approach every game seeking a win. This was a game with a lot of players contributing. There was no desire to just showcase a player, no matter how high he was picked.

For you fantasy guys, Booker's stats might drop a bit this year as the Suns start to play more like a team. People will start second guessing the max extension then, and it will be foolish to do so.

The ppg might drop a little but I think his efficiency and consistency will go up.
He's still going to carry a heavy load because I expect all these kids to be rather streaky.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I loved that guy every team needs a guy like him

Me too but every year it seems he'd tear it up as a scorer in an LA summer league and expectations would sore. And then opening night would come and his scoring would go away again.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Interesting thing that Igor said. They will approach every game seeking a win. This was a game with a lot of players contributing. There was no desire to just showcase a player, no matter how high he was picked.

For you fantasy guys, Booker's stats might drop a bit this year as the Suns start to play more like a team. People will start second guessing the max extension then, and it will be foolish to do so.

Not necessarily. It is quite feasible that his raw stats stay close to the same, but on fewer attempts.

 

[StreetTruckinTitan]

Disappointed they werent instructed to feed Ayton down in the post more often. I wanted him to dominate this game and other than a couple lob feeds he really didnt impact this game. Looking forward to tonight.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Disappointed they werent instructed to feed Ayton down in the post more often. I wanted him to dominate this game and other than a couple lob feeds he really didnt impact this game. Looking forward to tonight.

They did try on a few occasions, but Dallas was working hard to deny him touches and forced the ball out of his hands with doubles when he did get it. Hopefully the Kings allow him a little more one on one opportunities.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Disappointed they werent instructed to feed Ayton down in the post more often. I wanted him to dominate this game and other than a couple lob feeds he really didnt impact this game. Looking forward to tonight.

They played to win, which meant taking the shots the defense gives you. Ayton was double-teamed so often. You do not develop winning habits by featuring individual players. Ayton was open some and was missed, so it wasn't perfect.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

They played to win, which meant taking the shots the defense gives you. Ayton was double-teamed so often. You do not develop winning habits by featuring individual players. Ayton was open some and was missed, so it wasn't perfect.

Yeah this is a great point. A lot of these guys will play meaningful minutes in the regular season and thus developing winning habits is far more important than getting a single player touches.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Disappointed they werent instructed to feed Ayton down in the post more often. I wanted him to dominate this game and other than a couple lob feeds he really didnt impact this game. Looking forward to tonight.

Hmm I disagree wholeheartedly. He impacted the game greatly.

First he was a defensive presence at the rim. Not consistently enough yet, but more than we’ve had in a while. My father and I were speaking about the game last night and one of our first comments was “not a lot of walks to the basket by Dallas unlike in years past.”

Second, the Mavs were doubling him. Where do you think those 12 made three pointers came from? Part was a more disciplined movement-based offense. Part was the defense sagging in Ayton.

Finally, it’s difficult to be disappointed in Ayton when our guards didn’t show much ability to feed the post other than a couple of obvious lob opportunities.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

They played to win, which meant taking the shots the defense gives you. Ayton was double-teamed so often. You do not develop winning habits by featuring individual players. Ayton was open some and was missed, so it wasn't perfect.

Agreed. Luckily it looks like we have some more players capable of knocking down 3s now. And that’s even without Booker or Ariza or Daniels in the lineup. The gravity Ayton creates will get us lots of 3 point looks.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Agreed. Luckily it looks like we have some more players capable of knocking down 3s now. And that’s even without Booker or Ariza or Daniels in the lineup. The gravity Ayton creates will get us lots of 3 point looks.

Of course he has a ways to go to actually create that gravity in real games. I mean Dallas didn't even give him a chance to prove that he needed to be game-planned like that.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I really liked what I saw from Okobo. When players overachieve in summer league it usually because they hog the ball and score a lot. Okobo showed an ability to run a team, make not just good but stellar passes, and be efficient with his own shooting. His defense was decent too.

It's just one game, but I am wondering if we should just let this team develop with the players we have rather than try to tweak it with veterans to make it better. We have time to develop.

 

[Mainstreet]

I really liked what I saw from Okobo. When players overachieve in summer league it usually because they hog the ball and score a lot. Okobo showed an ability to run a team, make not just good but stellar passes, and be efficient with his own shooting. His defense was decent too.

It's just one game, but I am wondering if we should just let this team develop with the players we have rather than try to tweak it with veterans to make it better. We have time to develop.

With Okobo and Harrison backing up Knight the Suns should consider waiting to add a PG unless they get a trade offer they can't refuse. Also the Suns weakest position may be PF unless they want to play Warren and Ariza there.

 

[JCSunsfan]

With Okobo and Harrison backing up Knight the Suns should consider waiting to add a PG unless they get a trade offer they can't refuse. Also the Suns weakest position may be PF unless they want to play Warren and Ariza there.

They will play those two there. I think they need another backup center. Chandler should be done. He does not play quality minutes any more. Sauce would be OK if we can get him back.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Of course he has a ways to go to actually create that gravity in real games. I mean Dallas didn't even give him a chance to prove that he needed to be game-planned like that.

True but if his mere promise is enough of a threat to generate that type of gravity it won’t matter until someone dares him to win it on his own.

 

[devilalum]

They did try on a few occasions, but Dallas was working hard to deny him touches and forced the ball out of his hands with doubles when he did get it. Hopefully the Kings allow him a little more one on one opportunities.

I hope every team doubles him every time he touches the ball. Best way to learn. The only way he stops getting doubled in real games is if he makes the other team pay.

 

[devilalum]

I hope every team doubles him every time he touches the ball. Best way to learn. The only way he stops getting doubled in real games is if he makes the other team pay.

I even wondered if the coaches don't talk before the game and ask each other for certain considerations to help develop their own players. It is after all just a glorified practice.

 

[Mainstreet]

They will play those two there. I think they need another backup center. Chandler should be done. He does not play quality minutes any more. Sauce would be OK if we can get him back.

I keep waiting for the Suns to sign Sauce to a contract around $2.5 million.

The Suns might be better off looking for another player who can play the 4/5 with the doubts about Bender and Chriss. I'm not sure who is left.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

I even wondered if the coaches don't talk before the game and ask each other for certain considerations to help develop their own players. It is after all just a glorified practice.

I doubt that. They are going to be far more focused on doing the things that specifically help their own players and not doing things that help the other teams players.

 

[Mainstreet]

If every team double teams Ayton and he can successfully pass out of the situation to open shooters he has already proved his worth as the #1 pick.

I was enthused after Ayton's first summer league game.

 

[devilalum]

I doubt that. They are going to be far more focused on doing the things that specifically help their own players and not doing things that help the other teams players.

Oh, I get that. I was thinking about how NFL teams have joint practices and the coaches confer and agree to work on certain things. You scratch my back I’ll scratch yours kind of thing.

I have no idea if this happens during summer league but there wouldn’t be anything unethical about doing it.


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