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az1965 said:
Boldin trade talkes are ridiculous, even more so than the fact that they started to talk about his contract extension just after one season. Let the guy show at least two season the consistent performance worthy of big contract. Also, he was coming of an injury and you need to see if he is the same guy after the injury as he was before.


I agree with Russ's take on this and so does Harry. Logically Green is going to have to make a decision on how to juice up the offense.

We have two overly similar slow WR.

We need more speed and we need a QB and a RB. In that context I don't think it is ridiculous and I'm almost for it since we can't trade Fitz.
 

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Dang that will be a tough decision...to trade Quan or not. Wish there was a way we could keep both Fitz and him. What about Johnson? I wonder if Green will want to keep him around? I wonder if his foot is still bothering him after that surgery? He has been very quiet the last few games, if not the whole season.
 

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az1965 said:
Boldin trade talkes are ridiculous, even more so than the fact that they started to talk about his contract extension just after one season. Let the guy show at least two season the consistent performance worthy of big contract. Also, he was coming of an injury and you need to see if he is the same guy after the injury as he was before.


To be clear, I'm not promoting a trade, I'm saying the "signs point to" a possible trade. I started last year comparing Quan to Portis and pointing out how lucky we were Quan was a good guy not a egomaniac like Portis. Since then we've moved Quan to a new position, drafted a guy to play the position he played, gave him a HUGE contract, and in response, Quan hired portis' agent.

This could have been different, if we had taken a QB or any other position but WR, or even if we had taken Roy Williams, who wouldn't have required us to move Quan to another position, this would have been easier. But let's face it, no agent worth anything is going to ignore what Fitz is being paid and what Quan is when Quan was a better player last year and frankly is a better player THIS year, when he's not even healthy. You don't hire Drew Rosenhaus to have a friendly negotiation, you hire him because you think your current agent isn't getting you what you want.

Then you bring in Green to the equation, he drafted Fitz, he has a longstanding relationship with him, he sold the Cards brass on Fitz over anybody else in the draft. If there comes a situation where the Cards say hey we want Quan at any cost, no problem, give him the money, happily ever after. If instead someone says we can't pay him that much or more we just can't do that at WR, Green will side with Fitz, Graves and company will side with Green, and we'll see what happens.

Again, if given the choice I'd rather have Quan I'm just saying that the first year of this has not gone well and it wouldn't surprise me at all if the end result is Quan playing somewhere else next season.
 

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Unfortunately for Boldin, his injury is still holding him back. I think last year, he makes the catch in the endzone where he was in a jump ball situation with Buckley. The explosiveness is lacking, not the heart. Frankly, I think the market for him would not be as good as the fans here would think. It sounds cold to say it, but two major knee surgeries in four years is not going to have people beating down our door for him.
 

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ajcardfan said:
Unfortunately for Boldin, his injury is still holding him back. I think last year, he makes the catch in the endzone where he was in a jump ball situation with Buckley. The explosiveness is lacking, not the heart. Frankly, I think the market for him would not be as good as the fans here would think. It sounds cold to say it, but two major knee surgeries in four years is not going to have people beating down our door for him.
I agree. either Q is going to really have to come back next year smoking, or there is a very good chance he won't be here. he is missing explosiveness. last year he would have eluded alot of the Dbs that seem to catch him these days
 

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clif said:
I agree. either Q is going to really have to come back next year smoking, or there is a very good chance he won't be here. he is missing explosiveness. last year he would have eluded alot of the Dbs that seem to catch him these days


I think Boldin will be back full speed next year that's why we got him in the 2nd is that people were afraid he was just that slow.

He eventually wasn't but it does take time to get to full speed again.

But neither he or Fitz is fast when completely healthy. They are fast enough for the position they play but in the NFL usually some guy stretches the defense.

KC had all the pieces to the puzzle but that speed with Tony Gonzales and Morton and Priest Holmes a great O line and an average QB.

Things blew up for them on offense when they got Kennision because he stretches the defense. Until he came to town people just rode Tony Gonzales and Morton and nothing happend in the passing game.
 

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Crimson Warrior said:
1. Values the ball
2. Good arm
3. Good/great wheels
4. Values the ball

1-Doesn't value the ball-fumbles all too often and throws short into coverage.
2-Doesn't use his good arm
3-Doesn't use his good wheels
4-See 1

You're just flat out wrong, sorry.

On the flipside, Josh played well in relief and should start next week.
 
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