Mediocre DBacks Pitching Staff

[az jam]

DBacks will not be going anywhere this season with this pitching staff. No ace, only quality starter seems to be Robby Ray.

 

[AZ Native]

DBacks will not be going anywhere this season with this pitching staff. No ace, only quality starter seems to be Robby Ray.

True, RR has done amazingly well.

 

[sundevil04]

But it has the pieces to build a great staff. Corbin, Bradley, Ray, Anderson as the 2 - 5 and sign an ace in the off season

 

[Avondale Red Rage]

They're a young staff and it's not like they're getting dominated by opposing offenses. It would be nice if our offense would provide a little confidence during their on the job training.

Even after having the lead early with 5 runs the other night, the offense went limp the rest of the night. Goldy eking out singles and doubles with no one on base, while they're making outs after him, is not going to help unless you have Johnson & Schilling, or Greinke & Kershaw every 5 days.


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[Iceman]

The Dbacks seem to be close in almost every game. Problem is, they aren't finding ways to win those close ones. Lots of extra inning games, which takes a toll on the entire team, but mainly the pitching staff and catching. Do I think the staff is dominating-no, but they are doing a descent job of keeping games close. If they were able to win 1/3rd of the games they lost by 1 or 2 runs, then I believe that everyone would be saying this staff is doing a good job

 

[az240zz]

They need a closer.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

They need a closer.

I think they need at least 3 starters that can go deeper into games and keep the bullpen fresher.


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[GatorAZ]

Trade for Chapman.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

They are 25th in ERA, 22nd in opponents batting average, 20th in walks given up, and 26th in OPS.

This is with 2 gold glove players in the infield.

Mediocre would be a compliment. They are at least 2 pitchers away from mediocre and likely 4 pitchers from competitive.

Why do I say 4? Their top 4 pitchers in innings pitched have a combined ERA of 4.80

I believe they are 2-3 years away from rebuilding this staff, which makes the give away of a top pitching prospect that is 4 years away even more nonsensical.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

They need a closer.

They have a closer. He is the only pitcher in the bullpen that has a WAR of 2 or higher and below 1 WHIP.

 

[sundevil04]

They are 25th in ERA, 22nd in opponents batting average, 20th in walks given up, and 26th in OPS.

This is with 2 gold glove players in the infield.

Mediocre would be a compliment. They are at least 2 pitchers away from mediocre and likely 4 pitchers from competitive.

Why do I say 4? Their top 4 pitchers in innings pitched have a combined ERA of 4.80

I believe they are 2-3 years away from rebuilding this staff, which makes the give away of a top pitching prospect that is 4 years away even more nonsensical.

I couldn't disagree more. I agree we need an ace, but I do think we have a very strong 2 - 5 next season with 4 of these 6

Corbin
Bradley
Ray
Anderson
Blair
Shipley

There are several question mark in there, can Bradley get back to normal, can Corbin get back to his old ways, can Ray keep it up, can Anderson pull out of this slump, can Blair and Shipley do it in the bigs?

But with 6 to choose from, I think it's likely that some of those will go our way and some won't, which should ultimately leave us with 4 of the 6 to be out 2 - 5 and add an ace in the offseason.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I couldn't disagree more. I agree we need an ace, but I do think we have a very strong 2 - 5 next season with 4 of these 6

Corbin
Bradley
Ray
Anderson
Blair
Shipley

There are several question mark in there, can Bradley get back to normal, can Corbin get back to his old ways, can Ray keep it up, can Anderson pull out of this slump, can Blair and Shipley do it in the bigs?

But with 6 to choose from, I think it's likely that some of those will go our way and some won't, which should ultimately leave us with 4 of the 6 to be out 2 - 5 and add an ace in the offseason.

Actually you just agreed with me.

Blair and Shipley aren't on the roster yet.

You add an ace, that is 3 new pitchers.

I would like to see one guy in the bullpen.

Unless you were disagreeing with the stats? I have seen that on this board already.

 

[GatorAZ]

I couldn't disagree more. I agree we need an ace, but I do think we have a very strong 2 - 5 next season with 4 of these 6

Corbin
Bradley
Ray
Anderson
Blair
Shipley

There are several question mark in there, can Bradley get back to normal, can Corbin get back to his old ways, can Ray keep it up, can Anderson pull out of this slump, can Blair and Shipley do it in the bigs?

But with 6 to choose from, I think it's likely that some of those will go our way and some won't, which should ultimately leave us with 4 of the 6 to be out 2 - 5 and add an ace in the offseason.

So what you're basically saying is that if everything goes right we could have a great staff? Well I guess you're not wrong.

 

[sundevil04]

I believe they are 2-3 years away from rebuilding this staff.

I should have clarified. This is the part I disagree with. Also, the 4 pitchers listed in my post minus Blair and Shipley would make a very nice 2 - 5 if they can return to form. With what we have (not necessarily in the majors, but in our organization, we're only an ace away from being a very good starting rotation.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I should have clarified. This is the part I disagree with. Also, the 4 pitchers listed in my post minus Blair and Shipley would make a very nice 2 - 5 if they can return to form. With what we have (not necessarily in the majors, but in our organization, we're only an ace away from being a very good starting rotation.

Hmm...

Blair / Shipley - Baseball players really rise at age 24, peak at 27, and decline at 30.

Blair is 23
Shipley is 23

It is possible that one of these will be a #2 to #3 as a rookie but again I see two years away before they really hit their stride.

Bradley - A real wild card. Dominant in the minors in 2013. Awful in 2014. Dominant before being hit, awful afterwards.

We won't know what we have in him until probably next year. Guys have been hit in the past, lost the mental aspect needed for baseball, and couldn't play again. 3 days ago Hall said as much and wouldn't give a timeline for his return.

Ray - Ray is what I hope we get out of Shipley / Blair next year. That isn't the norm though. He should continue to excel and yes I see him as a solid #2 or great #3.

Anderson - 28 year old 2nd year player who had a 4.01 ERA last year and is at 4.37 now. His stats are almost identical in both years except his k/9 and walks /9 have both gone down by about 30%

Right now, he is maybe a 5th starter on a decent staff and he is already in his peak age. It is REALLY unlikely he dramatically improves. Could it happen? It did early but over long periods that ERA wasn't sustainable when all his other metrics showed a pitcher with a 4 ERA

Corbin - By next year I would expect him to be fully back. I am really hoping he can return to his all star level. Right now he just looks gassed after the 5th.



In short, I agree that there is a chance we could turn this around in a year with these guys. We have 1 solid piece, 1 likely solid piece, and 4 question marks.

2 years is the time if Blair / Shipley need a year to grow

3 years is the time if we suffer an injury / regression on Ray or Corbin.

 

[BC867]

The D-backs placed Chase Anderson on the 15-day disabled list, with right triceps inflammation.

I would hope that played a large part in his recent disappointing performances.

Did he not say anything to his coaches or did they all try to work through it?

I don't expect the fans will ever know.

 

[Phrazbit]

The D-backs placed Chase Anderson on the 15-day disabled list, with right triceps inflammation.

I would hope that played a large part in his recent disappointing performances.

Did he not say anything to his coaches or did they all try to work through it?

I don't expect the fans will ever know.

I wouldn't be surprised if there is no real injury at all and they just wanted to give him some time to rest and sort himself out.