Mettenberger pro day

[BigRedRage]

Heard on the radio yesterday that apparently 3 months after his knee surgery, he just did a full pro day and looked stellar. The pro day included roll out plays and everything. He wore a brace but I guess he looked great - very odd to be able to do that after 3 months. Sounds like he will be going higher than late rounds like I was hoping.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/04/10/zach-mettenberger-says-he-wont-need-to-go-on-pup/

 

[WildBB]

Heard on the radio yesterday that apparently 3 months after his knee surgery, he just did a full pro day and looked stellar. The pro day included roll out plays and everything. He wore a brace but I guess he looked great - very odd to be able to do that after 3 months. Sounds like he will be going higher than late rounds like I was hoping.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/04/10/zach-mettenberger-says-he-wont-need-to-go-on-pup/

I wouldn't take him until the 3rd Rd. There will be a few good options there at that position, imo. I like Murray, but you can't teach tall.

 

[BigRedRage]

doesnt sound like he will make it to the third round unless teams dont like/believe in him

 

[WildBB]

doesnt sound like he will make it to the third round unless teams dont like/believe in him

He's got a little work to do on his passing game. He's had great receivers there at LSU as well. He'll find the pro CB's quite a bit better.

Personally I like Murray better. He's just shorter. The Ball St. kid is a good possibility there as well.

 

[Reddog]

He looked strong. See for yourself;
http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2014/story/_/id/10758654/zach-mettenberger-shines-lsu-tigers-pro-day

 

[BigRedRage]

that first pass was awesome

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

His throwing motion looked almost perfect. It will be interesting to see where he goes. As mentioned numerous times, he's an ideal fit for this offense.

 

[TigToad]

I will go on record, I think this is the QB that we have a chance to get, that we want long term. I'd be happy if we took him in the 2nd, I would be thrilled if we got him in the third.

I think he's a great fit, and he is going to be forced to get the chance to learn the playbook and offense and it lets Carson Palmer mentor without looking over his shoulder for a year.

 

[Southpaw]

Watch him slip into the 1st.

 

[juza76]

i remember also that jamarcus russel had a great pro day

 

[BigRedRage]

i remember also that jamarcus russel had a great pro day

its not about the pro day, its about his ability to already do all of this three months after surgery when everyone assumed he wouldnt be ready until mid season.

 

[jlove]

With his Pro Day performance, his ability to this after only 3 months and now the buzz he's getting, the only way he ends up with us is if we trade up in the 2nd to get him. There's a TON of QB prospects this year and a deep draft, therefore he won't slip into first but IMO he'll be gone before we pick in the 2nd.

 

[kerouac9]

its not about the pro day, its about his ability to already do all of this three months after surgery when everyone assumed he wouldnt be ready until mid season.

Is that a functional issue that is going to help him in his pro career?

 

[BigRedRage]

Is that a functional issue that is going to help him in his pro career?

The fact that he may be able to play in year one? Yes. It makes him more attractive to teams who need a QB ASAP.

When he was considered as a guy who likely could not play in year one, only teams who can spend a pick on a guy expecting him to learn for a year would be interested (like us) and he could fall deeper in the draft due to that.

 

[Southpaw]

i remember also that jamarcus russel had a great pro day

By that logic, any athlete that has a great pro day will be a bust? We all know that is not a truism, but to diminish a "great pro day" performance because of Russell seems a bit absurd. The startling news is that he performed at all let alone "great" is what might be taken from this.

 

[WildBB]

By that logic, any athlete that has a great pro day will be a bust? We all know that is not a truism, but to diminish a "great pro day" performance because of Russell seems a bit absurd. The startling news is that he performed at all let alone "great" is what might be taken from this.

At the same time you can't put that much stock in a pro day. Stafford lit up his pro day got picked 1st oveall. He's had some decent numbers, but he's regressed, imo. He's got plenty of holes in his game as well. He's lucky to have a receiver the caliber of CJ.

Mettenberger's still at least two years away from ever getting to make an impact in a meaningful game in any sort of way.

We have glaring needs to address. Arians has been on record saying it's not a priority. They won't draft a QB before the 3rd Rd. AT LEAST.

 

[Jetstream Green]

The fact that he may be able to play in year one? Yes. It makes him more attractive to teams who need a QB ASAP.

When he was considered as a guy who likely could not play in year one, only teams who can spend a pick on a guy expecting him to learn for a year would be interested (like us) and he could fall deeper in the draft due to that.

Playing throw and catch on a practice field is a lot different than getting hit on a NFL playing field. Yes, he can move around well enough and throw the ball but I do not see a team putting him on the field till next year in case he gets hit. So for me his injury status is the same variable as it was coming out for the draft

 

[BigRedRage]

Playing throw and catch on a practice field is a lot different than getting hit on a NFL playing field. Yes, he can move around well enough and throw the ball but I do not see a team putting him on the field till next year in case he gets hit. So for me his injury status is the same variable as it was coming out for the draft

most people cant plant at this point, because he can, its encouraging. It raises his draft stock is all that there is a glimmer of hope that he could play faster than expected.

I dont put any stock into pro days, only into tape. Its just encouraging to see that he can already do that much. He is way ahead of schedule.

 

[Krangodnzr]

He's got a little work to do on his passing game. He's had great receivers there at LSU as well. He'll find the pro CB's quite a bit better.

Personally I like Murray better. He's just shorter. The Ball St. kid is a good possibility there as well.

I don't. Murray is that QB that looks great when has a clean pocket and is playing from a lead, but had no magic and plays poorly in the biggest games of his career. I've watched at least 6 or 7 of his starts and have seen him crumble when his team needed him to take over.

He plays just well enough most of the time to tantalize you with his talents, and if you look at his career as a whole, he's been a great college QB.

He will be no better than a very good long term backup, which I think is his value.

Mettenberger is like a more accurate Derek Anderson, which in some ways is a complement, but on the other hand scares the crap out of me. Big arm, Tall, can take hits, but I question whether he can maintain his accuracy.

 

[kerouac9]

The fact that he may be able to play in year one? Yes. It makes him more attractive to teams who need a QB ASAP.

When he was considered as a guy who likely could not play in year one, only teams who can spend a pick on a guy expecting him to learn for a year would be interested (like us) and he could fall deeper in the draft due to that.

I dunno. I guess my opinion is that if you're taking a QB in the first round, you're planning on him being the guy for 10 years, so whether or not he can play in 6 or 9 months is kind of moot. He wasn't a Top 10 prospect, anyway and was probably going to be below Manziel, Bortles, Bridgewater, and maybe Derek Carr. So if he were drafted after those guys, he'd probably be a rookie backup, anyway.

 

[WildBB]

I don't. Murray is that QB that looks great when has a clean pocket and is playing from a lead, but had no magic and plays poorly in the biggest games of his career. I've watched at least 6 or 7 of his starts and have seen him crumble when his team needed him to take over.

Murray had a big game in the SEC championship game two years ago against that vaunted Bama D. Almost pulled it out. It was the Ga. D that let them down.

Clinton-Dix also likes him more than Manziel. He said he was the toughest to prepare for. He doesn't stare down his receivers. See's the field really well.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I don't think his pro day will affect his draft status much at all. He'll still likely be a 2nd or 3rd round QB.

 

[BigRedRage]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-ranks-mettenberger-over-manziel-bridgewater/

 

[LDL]

Meh, if the the water wasn't muddy enough, here comes the stick...