Mike Bidwill & Kurt Warner Presser

[ajcardfan]

Meh. Warner didn't do it on his own. How many more from those teams (the SB season and the following season) are deserving of the ROH?

You can say that about any football player. It's the ultimate team sport.


However, more than any other player, by a mile and a half, it was Warner who ended this team's decades long reputation as a laughingstock. Not only by what he did on the field, but much more by how he talked about the Cards during and after his career. He still has the biggest megaphone of any ex-Cards or current Cards player.

 

[ajcardfan]

For sure:

Adrian Wilson
Larry Fitzgerald
Darnell Dockett

Those three are a lock for the Ring of Honor..

Only Warner and Fitz are a lock to join Aeneas Williams in the HOF.

Personally, I love that we are claiming him as much as the Rams. He threw for more yards and had more TDs with the Cards than he did with the Rams. Not many people, even Cards fans, know that and they should.

 

[52brandon]

You can say that about any football player. It's the ultimate team sport.


However, more than any other player, by a mile and a half, it was Warner who ended this team's decades long reputation as a laughingstock. Not only by what he did on the field, but much more by how he talked about the Cards during and after his career. He still has the biggest megaphone of any ex-Cards or current Cards player.

Exactly. His impact has a direct effect on the team to this day. And THAT is what makes him the greatest Cardinal of this current generation. Even after his SB run, our moron GM Graves made him fly to SF before giving him a legitimate extension offer. Still less than SF for him to remain and retire a Cardinal. Then he offered to take less to try to keep Q. The guy was selfless and a great player! he deserves to be inducted into the ROH and IMO have his # retired as well

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Only Warner and Fitz are a lock to join Aeneas Williams in the HOF.

Personally, I love that we are claiming him as much as the Rams. He threw for more yards and had more TDs with the Cards than he did with the Rams. Not many people, even Cards fans, know that and they should.

I think Adrian Wilson ends up in the HOF also but it may be harder for him because he played at the same time as Polamalu and Ed Reed(I know FS) and those were the standard bearers for safety play in his era.

 

[Gee!]

Only Warner and Fitz are a lock to join Aeneas Williams in the HOF.

Personally, I love that we are claiming him as much as the Rams. He threw for more yards and had more TDs with the Cards than he did with the Rams. Not many people, even Cards fans, know that and they should.

I think you started maybe you a HOF comment. But BIM was talking about ROH not HOF, that's what I was replying to..

And I did know Warner had more yards and TDs with the Cards than Rams..

 

[BigRedRage]

Meh. Warner didn't do it on his own. How many more from those teams (the SB season and the following season) are deserving of the ROH?

2. Fitz and Adub.

he did most of it on his own. no running game, bad blocking but great timing, smart moves and high accuracy.

 

[Buckybird]

I think Adrian Wilson ends up in the HOF also but it may be harder for him because he played at the same time as Polamalu and Ed Reed(I know FS) and those were the standard bearers for safety play in his era.

I think Quan has a much better chance at the HOF than ADub because of stats & the perception around the league of being a great player, plus he has a ring! I personally think #24 stands almost no chance at the HOF...it's the hall of great, not the hall of good.

But he is a former Cards DB whose last name starts with W & it's worked 3 times now

 

[Darkside]

I'm going to use the same argument they used last night on NFLN when discussing HOF'ers: could you talk about the decade without mentioning Peyton Manning? Would the NFL decade have been the same without him?

Therefore: Could you write the Cardinals history without mentioning Kurt Warner? Would the organization have been the same without him?

I suppose that's for each person to decide but I know where I stand.

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[Cardiac]

Meh. Warner didn't do it on his own. How many more from those teams (the SB season and the following season) are deserving of the ROH?

Warner's last season we went 10-6 and won a playoff game in which he had more TD passes than incompletions. He retires and the Cards SUCKED and have until we got a decent QB. Not just a coincidence.

 

[52brandon]

I'm going to use the same argument they used last night on NFLN when discussing HOF'ers: could you talk about the decade without mentioning Peyton Manning? Would the NFL decade have been the same without him?

Therefore: Could you write the Cardinals history without mentioning Kurt Warner? Would the organization have been the same without him?

I suppose that's for each person to decide but I know where I stand.

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if it's about HOF, he gets that easy. Between the greatest show on turf to the resurrection in the desert, he's a lock. If the Rams have a ROH, he belongs in both

Warner's last season we went 10-6 and won a playoff game in which he had more TD passes than incompletions. He retires and the Cards SUCKED and have until we got a decent QB. Not just a coincidence.

don't forget, what, the 6th overall D. Which in reality was better than that, our O couldn't stay on the field. Our D was nothing to brag about when Warner did it

 

[Duckjake]

The Cards need to add about 5-6 more players to the ROH.

Denver has 27 but then their requirements aren't the most stringent. Dallas has 20. Ironically Warner will be the 13th player* and 7 of those 12 finished their careers before 1960.

Jim Hart-career passing leader, Jim Bakken 17 seasons with the Cards, OJ Anderson-career rushing leader, Ernie McMillan-14 seasons, and Stump Mitchell-just because, hey, I like the Stumper.

Oh yeah, and Jake Plummer- first advancing playoff game win in 50 years.

*Conzelman is listed as a coach but he was also a player.

Interesting thing I picked up doing my usual goofball history search. Who scored the first TD in Arizona for the Arizona Cardinals?

 

[cardncubfan]

For sure:

Adrian Wilson
Larry Fitzgerald
Darnell Dockett

Those three are a lock for the Ring of Honor..

I'd agree with these 3.

 

[cardncubfan]

The Cards need to add about 5-6 more players to the ROH.

Denver has 27 but then their requirements aren't the most stringent. Dallas has 20. Ironically Warner will be the 13th player* and 7 of those 12 finished their careers before 1960.

Jim Hart-career passing leader, Jim Bakken 17 seasons with the Cards, OJ Anderson-career rushing leader, Ernie McMillan-14 seasons, and Stump Mitchell-just because, hey, I like the Stumper.

Oh yeah, and Jake Plummer- first advancing playoff game win in 50 years.

*Conzelman is listed as a coach but he was also a player.

Interesting thing I picked up doing my usual goofball history search. Who scored the first TD in Arizona for the Arizona Cardinals?

Is it Stump or Roy Green?

Edit: just looked it up. Earl Ferrell. Certainly don't remember him.

 

[Buckybird]

Earl Ferrell. Certainly don't remember him.

He was actually a damn good FB in his heyday, even nearly had/had 1000 rushing one year! Also was a coke head that ruined the rest of his career. Veryyyyy underrated player IMO

 

[Duckjake]

No it wasn't Earl Ferrell.

It was Fred McAfee who scored vs the Giants in the home opener in 1994. The year the team changed their name from the Phoenix Cardinals to the Arizona Cardinals.

McAfee has to be one of the most obscure of Cardinal Running backs. Had only two carries for Arizona. A TD and a 5 yard loss.

 

[Redsz]

I am very happy to see kurt back in cardinal red. He did everything he could to elevate this franchise (on and off the field). He is a total class act and one of the greatest to don the red bird on his helmet. A welcome addition to the ROH.