Monty Williams Fired (Hired by Detroit)

[Finito]

I would like to know more though. There were issues going on with Jae Crowder as well.

However, it's risky keeping Ayton if the Suns can find a good trade.

Don’t forget legit media was saying Monty and Paul were getting into it to at the end last year

 

[BirdGangThing]

I disagree. We fans are fickle and prisoners of the moment. All he has to do is come out and play like he did in his first few playoff series and he'll win most of us back.

Ain't just Monty tho,I can think of instances where Ayton publicly wasn't jelling with CP3, Craig, Bridges, Booker, even KD in Ayton's last game

 

[Mainstreet]

Don’t forget legit media was saying Monty and Paul were getting into it to at the end last year

Whatever it was, it didn't get fixed and the players started to play too much on their own.

 

[Bufalay]

Lmao oh idk maybe blowing a 2-0 lead and losing 4 straight to the Bucks

Being the 1 seed blowing a 2-0 lead and being down almost 50 against the Mavs

Being down 30 at halftime this year.

I count 3 embarrassing meltdowns in 3 years.

I imagine that you assume there is some other coach who would’ve outperformed Monty Williams each of those years.

Obviously this cannot be known. But the suns have never had a lead in the finals nor won 64 regular season games in their history before Monty Williams.

I doubt Steve Kerr or Greg poopyvich would’ve done any better than Williams. Maybe they would’ve had more respectable losses at the end.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Maybe. I just think that Ayton needs a reboot elsewhere.

Perhaps but we're kind of in a bind and can't really afford to part with a number one pick without receiving close to number one pick value. Right now I think our chances of him playing like a number 1 are greater than our chances of getting that in return for him in a trade.

 

[95pro]

Hopefully JJ is next. Not a fan of Monty being fired without JJ. Clean the whole house rather than one room.

I’m willing to give JJ a break. Despite our bench there was not even a plan on how to play them. Also three years in a row despite the roster, the same patterns have shown through and through with Monty.

 

[Bufalay]

If there is some “internal” reason he was fired then maybe it was justified. But I disagree that his performance warranted this.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I’m willing to give JJ a break. Despite our bench there was not even a plan on how to play them. Also three years in a row despite the roster, the same patterns have shown through and through with Monty.

I'm on the fence. There are a lot of things that have happened (and not happened) during his time as GM that have me concerned. I'm willing to give him more rope if Ishbia believes that Sarver was a real impediment to him succeeding but if JJ really had control, he needs to go too.

 

[Phrazbit]

We shall see. Kyler was a little ******* and the moment the coach was out he is suddenly engaged and Captain Az

Bad bosses never learn that talent is greater than your manager

I'm waiting to buy Kyler stock. He is buying in right now for the new guy, but lets see how he handles the next set of adversity. I think he's a front runner.

I think we are likely to see a similar run from Ayton. Buy in hard for the new guy (or new city) but revert back to his old self as soon as things get rough.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I’m willing to give JJ a break. Despite our bench there was not even a plan on how to play them. Also three years in a row despite the roster, the same patterns have shown through and through with Monty.

JJ went bargain basement shopping last summer… after we got humiliated. He blew the 10th pick in the draft. He’s found zero diamonds in the rough.

He totally boofed the Crowder situation and it looks like wildly overpaid for KD (which might not all be his fault).

This team needs new leadership and a better eye for talent.

 

[Finito]

Whatever it was, it didn't get fixed and the players started to play too much on their own.

Yeah they had to address it last year and it just got worse

 

[sdscard4]

I think Book saying nothing speaks volumes

 

[Finito]

I imagine that you assume there is some other coach who would’ve outperformed Monty Williams each of those years.

Obviously this cannot be known. But the suns have never had a lead in the finals nor won 64 regular season games in their history before Monty Williams.

I doubt Steve Kerr or Greg poopyvich would’ve done any better than Williams. Maybe they would’ve had more respectable losses at the end.

Bruh

 

[sdscard4]

CP3 will be back unless we get a good trade. Ayton is soo gone

 

[Mainstreet]

Hopefully the Suns are a destination for a new head coach.

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[sdscard4]

Monty basically killed himself saying Suns weren't ready and that's on him.
Bye Felicia

 

[95pro]

I'm on the fence. There are a lot of things that have happened (and not happened) during his time as GM that have me concerned. I'm willing to give him more rope if Ishbia believes that Sarver was a real impediment to him succeeding but if JJ really had control, he needs to go too.

I’m willing to go with what’s been known is that Sarver was meddling and cheap. Our new owner could also be meddling as well if he did push the KD trade through, he just isn’t cheap.
So I’m willing to see what JJ can do with an owner that’s willing to buy talent. I know the new cba doesn’t work in our favor.

 

[TJ]

Perhaps but we're kind of in a bind and can't really afford to part with a number one pick without receiving close to number one pick value. Right now I think our chances of him playing like a number 1 are greater than our chances of getting that in return for him in a trade.

If he plays like a #1 pick, then we don’t need to trade him.

 

[AzStevenCal]

If he plays like a #1 pick, then we don’t need to trade him.

Agreed. But if he plays to that level he probably won't feel the need to leave either.

 

[Bufalay]

Bruh

Ahh you’re right.

 

[Dback Jon]

2 coaches have won titles with multiple franchises, Phil Jackson and Pat Riley. I wouldn't bet on Ty Lue being #3 but he wouldn't be a bad move. I wish we hadn't let Willie Green get away.

He was the reason we made the finals

 

[Mainstreet]

I’m willing to go with what’s been known is that Sarver was meddling and cheap. Our new owner could also be meddling as well if he did push the KD trade through, he just isn’t cheap.
So I’m willing to see what JJ can do with an owner that’s willing to buy talent. I know the new cba doesn’t work in our favor.

James Jones did trade Dario Saric before the trade deadline. This was mostly a money saving move.

 

[mjb21aztd]

Maybe the curse has been lifted wow fast acting gm nice

Pleaseee hire right hc nooo thomas or steve nash lol

420 mango dream rip to no more monty

 

[Yuma]

If he plays like a #1 pick, then we don’t need to trade him.

Not every number one pick nets a number one pick value in return. Not every number one pick plays to that level. Some number one picks are called busts. Busts don't get number one pick value....

 

[Hoop Head]

James Jones did trade Dario Saric before the trade deadline. This was mostly a money saving move.

It was a JJ move. Can't have anything resembling frontcourt depth on his watch.