Monty Williams Fired (Hired by Detroit)

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Nurse and Bud are major upgrades

 

[Mainstreet]

Here is the link to the Shams Charania interview today on Arizona Sports.

Bickley & Marotta Show Audio Archives - Arizona Sports

arizonasports.com

 

[Covert Rain]

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Interesting. I wonder if Booker and Durant perhaps felt the team was predictable in their offensive sets etc. and relayed that. It was obvious to just about everyone the go to was ISO Book, ISO Durant.....rinse repeat. We also struggled big time in the finals to make adjustments and we know how the last 2 seasons turned out.

 

[Ronin]

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[BirdGangThing]

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[Cheesebeef]

Feel like Sixers are a prime destination for Monty.

 

[Mainstreet]

I think a lot of teams will look at the Suns before Monty Williams arrived and where the Suns are today.

The Suns were terrible before Monty arrived and we the saw the Suns start to rise in the Orlando bubble.

 

[Finito]

I think a lot of teams will look at the Suns before Monty Williams arrived and where the Suns are today.

The Suns were terrible before Monty arrived and we the saw the Suns start to rise in the Orlando bubble.

Monty’s success is directly tied to Chris Paul. Paul and Booker taking the next step are what made the Suns not Monty. Monty was just along for the ride

 

[Proximo]

It all comes down, do the Suns want to spend luxury tax money on him? He is scheduled to make $6,205,035 next season.

That's a lot of money for the Suns with the new CBA.

Didn't realize it was that much.

That does make it a tougher decision.

 

[Proximo]

I wonder whether Doc Rivers will be available.

Probably, why would you want him?

Of the retreads only Lou and Nurse interest me, otherwise I would go with an assistant who is hopefully an up and comer.

 

[Covert Rain]

Probably, why would you want him?

Of the retreads only Lou and Nurse interest me, otherwise I would go with an assistant who is hopefully an up and comer.

You can't go with an up and comer when you are in win now mode with a window open. The Suns would get roasted and then you might as well have kept Monty.

 

[Proximo]

Honestly , how does Stephen A Smith even have a job?

He's willing to play a jester. It's more about having a strong opinion and being willing to look like a fool sometimes backing it up to generate interest than having good takes. That's what brings viewers.

 

[Mainstreet]

Monty’s success is directly tied to Chris Paul. Paul and Booker taking the next step are what made the Suns not Monty. Monty was just along for the ride

Most of James Jones success is tied to the Chris Paul trade as well.

 

[Proximo]

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Good. I was worried they were not.

 

[Proximo]

You can't go with an up and comer when you are in win now mode with a window open. The Suns would get roasted and then you might as well have kept Monty.

Don't understand that mind set.

The idea is to improve. Bud or a Vogel, or Doc Rivers are worse coaches than Monty or at best on the same level. If the idea is to improve you don't hire those guys, so if you can't get Lou or Nurse you have to go with an inexperienced guy to get better. At least that is the way I look at it.

 

[Proximo]

Nurse and Bud are major upgrades

Ask any Millwaukee fan what they think of Bud. He sucks, and I could tell as much just watching them in the playoffs this year.

 

[Covert Rain]

Don't understand that mind set.

The idea is to improve. Bud or a Vogel, or Doc Rivers are worse coaches than Monty or at best on the same level. If the idea is to improve you don't hire those guys, so if you can't get Lou or Nurse you have to go with an inexperienced guy to get better. At least that is the way I look at it.

You have a window now. You can't hire a guy with zero pedigree. It makes zero sense. So you are going to risk your window for a guy with no proven track record? No thanks. You are not going to improve your title window with a guy learning to do his job. Watch what happens if the Suns do that.

 

[Proximo]

You have a window now. You can't hire a guy with zero pedigree. It makes zero sense. So you are going to risk your window for a guy with no proven track record? No thanks. You are not going to improve your title window with a guy learning to do his job. Watch what happens if the Suns do that.

How have the Celtics done the last 2 years with coaches with no pedigree?

Nurse and Spolstra had very little pedigree when they won their titles.

I'm really not sure I agree we even have a window. Going to take some mighty good GM'ing to somehow make this into a contender IMO.

 

[Covert Rain]

How have the Celtics done the last 2 years with coaches with no pedigree?

Nurse and Spolstra had very little pedigree when they won their titles.

I'm really not sure I agree we even have a window. Going to take some mighty good GM'ing to somehow make this into a contender IMO.

You are talking about the exception not the rule. Most new HC are learning their job. If you agree or not the Suns are built to win now. If this team was in full reboot mode it would make much more sense.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

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Seems that congratulatory visit was worth it.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Don't understand that mind set.

The idea is to improve. Bud or a Vogel, or Doc Rivers are worse coaches than Monty or at best on the same level. If the idea is to improve you don't hire those guys, so if you can't get Lou or Nurse you have to go with an inexperienced guy to get better. At least that is the way I look at it.

Agree. Find the willie green assistant if you can’t land the stud.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Ask any Millwaukee fan what they think of Bud. He sucks, and I could tell as much just watching them in the playoffs this year.

Not a bud fan

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

You have a window now. You can't hire a guy with zero pedigree. It makes zero sense. So you are going to risk your window for a guy with no proven track record? No thanks. You are not going to improve your title window with a guy learning to do his job. Watch what happens if the Suns do that.

No you hire a guy who lays out a plan and shows intellect to rise to the next level.

 

[Covert Rain]

Not a bud fan

One of the biggest knocks on Bud is he also has issues making in game adjustments. Sounds familiar.

 

[Chaplin]

Ask any Millwaukee fan what they think of Bud. He sucks, and I could tell as much just watching them in the playoffs this year.

The Clippers say the same thing about Lue, so I'm not sure fan opinion is an accurate gauge of how good a coach is.