Murray to Cards a "done deal"

[Shane]

With the combine over, the jets are starting to cool.....

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What do you know something that actually makes sense

 

[Shane]

I was thinking more of a Mitsubishi Mirage:

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5/5

 

[GatorAZ]

With the combine over, the jets are starting to cool.....

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Even if he wasn’t their guy they wouldn’t tell him that. Another report that holds no weight. Nobody knows a damn thing.

 

[HeHasRosen]

With the combine over, the jets are starting to cool.....

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Shhhh. No ones supposed to know. Its our little secret. Were drafting Murray

 

[DRM08]

To get us out of this perpetual discussion vicious circle -

If Murray was 6-3, would you draft him at #1 and trade Rosen? Why?

Bottom line is they invested 3 picks into Rosen and they face a $8m cap hit if they trade him. There are a ton of great reasons to keep Rosen, regardless of Murray's size.

I am curious to see if they can figure out a way to trade down for extra picks. That seems like a pretty good plan if they can pull it off.

 

[HeHasRosen]

Bottom line is they invested 3 picks into Rosen and they face a $8m cap hit if they trade him. There are a ton of great reasons to keep Rosen, regardless of Murray's size.

I am curious to see if they can figure out a way to trade down for extra picks. That seems like a pretty good plan if they can pull it off.

I think that is exactly what Keim is looking to do. Its become pretty obvious to me. If no one bites Bosa will be the pick. I think the drop off from Bosa to Williams(possibly better) or Allen may not be as much as some think imo. And if you can get one of them and 1 or 2 more of the top end talent in this draft its a win

 

[GatorAZ]

Bottom line is they invested 3 picks into Rosen and they face a $8m cap hit if they trade him. There are a ton of great reasons to keep Rosen, regardless of Murray's size.

I am curious to see if they can figure out a way to trade down for extra picks. That seems like a pretty good plan if they can pull it off.

It makes the most sense to keep Rosen but an extra 4m cap hit by trading him is way down the list of reasons not to. Insignificant factor.

As for the second part I agree. I think we’re trading down with NY and they groom Haskins.

 

[overseascardfan]

So, who will be the better QB, Murray or Rosen? This is not the time to guess. The QB position is too important. Keep both options open until you know. Draft Murray, keep Rosen, figure it out, trade later.

If they are convinced they KNOW before the draft, fine. Pass on Murray or trade Rosen. But they better be 100% sure. I am not sure that is possible without having both of them on the roster playing first.

To put into perspective, Daniel Jeremiah wrote/said Rosen would be best QB in this draft because really he is the most polished QB of anyone in this year’s draft and arguably last year’s as well despite being the 4th QB taken. Teams looking to trade for him have leverage because he had a bad year under circumstances that were not under his control. Think about it this way, if a team can get him for a second rounder after he cost ARZ a swap of 1st rounders, a 3rd and 5th round pick last year you’re getting a steal even aside from the fact that he makes around $8M the next 3 years so if a guy like Jay Gruden can get a hold of him and do what the coaching juggernaut of Wilks/McCoy/Leftwich could not (wouldn’t take much) then ARZ will be a laughing stock for years if they replace him with a guy who isn’t even the consensus #1 pick and he goes out like he did at Texas A&M.

 

[TJ]

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Ouch. No bueno.

 

[Arz101]

I was wrong. Things have not yet cooled

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[Cheesebeef]

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Ouch. No bueno.

yikes!

 

[TJ]

I was wrong. Things have not yet cooled

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[Arz101]

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No one tells Gambo or Casserly anything. They both hear voices. Gambo lives to lie to his listeners and do errands for his "pal" Sarver.

 

[Shane]

It makes the most sense to keep Rosen but an extra 4m cap hit by trading him is way down the list of reasons not to. Insignificant factor.

As for the second part I agree. I think we’re trading down with NY and they groom Haskins.

It’s 8 million not 4

 

[Shane]

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Ouch. No bueno.

So basically he’s not football smart?? For a QB = HUGE RED FLAG

 

[Zeno]

I just want to get this crap over with. If the Cardinals make the mistake of trading Rosen and drafting Murray so be it, lets just move on...tired of all the speculation, rumors, etc etc

 

[TJ]

So basically he’s not football smart?? For a QB = HUGE RED FLAG

I’ve said all along - he’s not even a first-round prospect. If this is true, he should be dropped from draft boards altogether.

 

[b8rtm8nn]

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[Shane]

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Yea let’s take this kid #1 overall

 

[DRM08]

Leadership? They gleaned that from an interview with him eh? He led his high school team to 3 straight championships.

 

[juza76]

So basically he’s not football smart?? For a QB = HUGE RED FLAG

We got here a couple of football smart
Ryan Lindley
Blaine Gabbert

 

[juza76]

Leadership? They gleaned that from an interview with him eh? He led his high school team to 3 straight championships.

Yeah then kingsbury knows him very well
He cant be enormered with a guy who lacks those traits

 

[GatorAZ]

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[TJ]

Leadership? They gleaned that from an interview with him eh? He led his high school team to 3 straight championships.

I’ll just say that most pro QBs had significant success in high school. Rosen led Bosco to a state championship, so what a pro prospect does in high school has little bearing as to what he’ll do in college.

 

[DRM08]

Yeah then kingsbury knows him very well
He cant be enormered with a guy who lacks those traits

We have one on the Tech roster right now, lol...Jett Duffey, excellent athlete with a strong arm who can't read a defense to save his life and makes bad decisions with the ball.