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Do you even Orange Bowl bro? If you think Murray is going to run the ball 15 to 20 times a game in NFL, and even if we did that he would be as effective in college let alone make it thru the season I've got a bridge for sale.

Dude looks at his first read and takes off running when playing against a capable defense. I'm all for Wilsonesque scrambling ability to make something out of nothing but that should be the gravy not the meat and potatoes. Murray is a great college QB. The type of play that made him great in college will not make him great in the NFL.

All we proved last year is Rosen is durable. I still don't think Rosen is going to be great, heck I have doubts he can even be avg. But we did have a cluster F last year and it's hard to really know for sure if Rosen is that bad but sure as hell ain't wasting a #1 overall on Murray. People acting like he is the second coming of Brady without ever playing NFL scheme.

He's just as athletic as Michael Vick except he can throw. Have you ever seen him throw?
 

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If one can get beyond the height issue, Murray makes a lot of sense.
 

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When you blame everything Rosen did wrong on those around him..... Where do you think that belongs on the accountability ladder?

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I do the top five things on that list (including wait and hope), and yet often don’t feel responsible and could give two chits about being powerful.

I’m also decent at tennis. I also like reference books more than non-fiction.

None of this appears to be making the draft any more predictable. That said...

Bosa belongs in a Raider uniform. It’s perfect. They have to have him. Will this to happen.
 

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In two or three years, people will be talking about Rosen as one of the best. Dude is 21 and uber-talented. Last year was a cluster F and means nothing.

If he plays even remotely like he did last year, he won't even be in the NFL in 2-3 years. Last year was a cluster F, and Rosen can't be held entirely accountable. Whether it's with the Cardinals or not, he'll get another shot. If Rosen ends up a star, and Murray doesn't, I would hold Bidwill accountable for hiring Wilks in the 1st place. Without Wilks, the Cardinals would have won at least 6 games last year & we wouldn't be talking about how impactful the 1st pick needs to be.
 

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I do the top five things on that list (including wait and hope), and yet often don’t feel responsible and could give two chits about being powerful.

I’m also decent at tennis. I also like reference books more than non-fiction.

None of this appears to be making the draft any more predictable. That said...

Bosa belongs in a Raider uniform. It’s perfect. They have to have him. Will this to happen.
Wait a minute - reference books ARE non-fiction...
 
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AZCrazy, only problem, by the first play of the season Bosa will be hurt and NOT playing.

I agree, with all the injuries of late to our draft picks, we cannot afford a bust due to not being on the field... our worst case scenario at the moment can only be that at least the guy is a starter to have any chance to build a foundation
 

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If we draft Murray, we'll have a good idea of how well the NFL considers Rosen. Last year, Rosen was the fourth QB drafted. This year many mocks have Az, NYG, Oak (if Murray is available), Mia, SD and NE having an interest in a QB. Which of these teams trade for Rosen rather than draft a QB. That should give us an idea of how the NFL values Risen.
 

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Is anyone still shocked that Murray wasn't the one wearing the Green Jacket yesterday? I mean, he can do everything, right? Why not win The Master's?

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Yup!

One rather DIM talking head suggested that passing on KM may be the equivalent to passing on Michael Jordan.
 

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