My absolute insane rebuilding Plan

[slinslin]

Everything works under the cap of course.

Steve Nash to New York for Eddy Curry and #9.
Buyout Curry for $5-6 million.

Trade Shaq and Barbosa to the Clippers for Baron Davis, Chris Kaman, Mardy Collins and #3.
Waive Collins.
(Clippers get out of Baron Davis absolutely horrendous contract, since he has been a complete failure in LA they replace him with Barbosa who fits in their team very well and has a perfect contract, they replace Kaman multi year contract with Shaq who will bringt them huge financial relieve of course this has to come at the cost of their draftpick.)

Trade Richardson, Kaman, Orlando's 2nd rounder, to Minnesota for Mike Miller, Brian Cardinal, Mark Madsen and #5.
Waive Mark Madsen
(Minnesota adds a real Center and a good SG to their core of Brewer SF/SG, Jefferson PF, Love PF and Foye PG. They will probably be willing to trade their draftpick because they already are a very young team and would rather add good proven players)

Trade Amare and Tucker to Washington for Songaila, Haywood, Stevenson and #2.
(With Arenas coming back they are looking at turning around with a team of Arenas, Butler, Jamison and Amare). That probably makes more sense in their situation rather than adding a rookie.

Dudley, our 2nd rounder, Golden State's 2nd rounder for a draftpick to get Buddinger.
(Someone will be willing to trade a pick in the middle of the first round for a couple of good 2nd round picks I assume)

Use picks #2 Thabeet(Uconn), #3 Harden(ASU), #5 Hill(UofA), #9 Jennings(Europe), #14 DeRozan(USC), #?? Buddinger(UofA)

Let Barnes walk, let Swift walk, let Hill do whatever he wishes.

Oh and we saved us a whole lot of money, although we picked up some longer contracts too.

Center - Thabeet/Haywood/Lopez
Power Forward - Hill/Amundson/Songaila
Small Forward - Miller/Buddinger
Shooting Guard - Harden/DeRozan/Stevenson
Point Guard - Davis/Jennings
IR: Brian Cardinal, Goran Dragic

 

[devilalum]

Warriors Light

That team MIGHT win 25 games next year.

 

[overseascardfan]

The Amare trade is terrible, we would really stink it up next year and give OKC a Top 5 pick, sorry but no to this plan.

 

[slinslin]

So? We will stink next year anyway.. Best case is being mediocre and going absolute nowhere, that is much worse in my book than rebuilding, losing a lot but having something to look forward to down the road.

Say goodbye to the pick, it is gone anyway. We can't make our moves dependant on not giving Oklahoma a high pick because they get our pick anyway.

Rebuilding is what this team has to do. It's just dumb logic to say we can't without the pick.
It's gone anyway... Some people say we should trade for that pick so we can rebuild but it makes no sense to try hard to just do that. We might just as well trade the same value we would have to trade for that pick to get a high pick from someone else.

 

[asudevil83]

its ALL Terrible

1.) Curry is due OVER $22mil over the next two seasons. he'd GLADLY sit and rot on the bench for those two years instead of getting $6mil. its not like any team is going to give him $8mil per year during the next two seasons to cover the difference.

2.) you MIGHT be able to pull off Shaq/Barbosa for Kaman/Davis. adding a top 3 pick makes it far too ridiculous.

3.) Wouldnt consider he Minny trade HORRIBLE. it would really depend on the direction the team wants to go. do they want to be players in the 2010 market? If i were them i'd really want to keep $35mil in cap space and a #5 pick over Kaman/Richardson.

4.) i'm pretty sure that Washington does NOT want to have $32mil tied up in BAD KNEES, when one of those bad knees can walk after next season. not sure that's worth giving up the #2 pick, when you might have a rental on your hands.

Basically, most of those deals arent even logical.

 

[slinslin]

Davis has 5 years left on his big contract, he is shooting 36% and averaging just 15/8 and missing plenty of games, basically he is the worst contract you can find in the entire league, save maybe Gilbert Arenas.
The Clippers are a failure, I'm sure Sterling would love to get out of that contract and Shaq is a large expiring one.

Curry's contract expires in 2010 according to the trademachine. If not put in Hughes instead of Curry.

I would have no problem keeping Amare and assemble a young team around him, but I am sure there will be someone willing to give up a top pick and players for him instead of drafting another rookie. Many of these bad teams are in a situation where they added lottery picks for a bunch of years now and aren't looking to draft another one.

See Ray Allen to Boston for #5. Certainly Amare is a lot more valueable than Ray Allen was.

 

[cly2tw]

Davis has 5 years left on his big contract, he is shooting 36% and averaging just 15/8 and missing plenty of games, basically he is the worst contract you can find in the entire league, save maybe Gilbert Arenas.
The Clippers are a failure, I'm sure Sterling would love to get out of that contract and Shaq is a large expiring one.

Curry's contract expires in 2010 according to the trademachine. If not put in Hughes instead of Curry.

I would have no problem keeping Amare and assemble a young team around him, but I am sure there will be someone willing to give up a top pick and players for him instead of drafting another rookie. Many of these bad teams are in a situation where they added lottery picks for a bunch of years now and aren't looking to draft another one.

See Ray Allen to Boston for #5. Certainly Amare is a lot more valueable than Ray Allen was.

1. Curry has 2 years left. Otherwise, NY wouldn't care to trade him. Huges is best fitted under DA's system. His contract is about the same as Nash's but I doubt they'd give up a lottery pick for it. He might not be as good of fit in Phx, though you never know in a contract year. He has length, which would be good backcourt mate with LB or Ellis, just like Crawford. But he must shoot too much to be effective. Not ideal.

2. Someone might take a chance at Amare like Boston did Allen, but for that kind of risk, they'd better expect to become title contenders with this move.

3. Actually, Clipps would be willing to give up even more to get rid of Davis'. They could always trade away Shaq's to a contender before deadline to compensate it.

All in all, I'd assume Amare is here to stay and we better try to figure out a way to fully develop him. For that, Nash must go.

As a potential longterm co-star, Monta Ellis has the best quality to score like Arenas, Wade, at least much better than LB. For that, JRich might become dispensible due to contract.

- JRich to Minn for Miller, Carney, Marsden or some other package involving Gomes and Carney;
- Nash/LB to GS for Ellis/Crawford + some other part swaps.
- Lopes/Marsden for Boone/Williams

Shaq/Amare/Miller/Crawford/Ellis
Boone/Amundson/Williams/Hill/Dudley/Carney/Dragic

that'd make a very good team. And I believe for the financial relief GS gets from the deal they'd be willing to give us Azubuike in addition.

Even if Amare were not healty enough, in Ellis and Shaq we have two dominant scorers already. On paper, we should be able to play good defense too if Shaq sits.

 

[Geo2000]

Well you were right....it's insane.

 

[binkar]

haha I absolutely love this slinslin. It is definitely insane and would be fun to watch if nothing else. The chemistry of the team would be either amazing or horrendous. This brings thinking out side of the box to a whole new level. It obviously has about .00000000000001% of happening, but I love the creativity and it was definitely an entertaining read.

 

[slinslin]

These picks would be #2 17,8% , #3 17,7%, #5 7,6% , #8 2,8% and #14 0,5% right now.
A combined chance of 46,4% to win the lottery.

My picks now would be
#2 Rubio, #3 Thabeet, #5 DeRozan, #8 Hill and #14 Evans.

 

[TBaslim]

Credit for a bold rebuilding plan...insane is correct...never gonna happen...but bold it is.

First, I wouldn't rebuild by taking half the new team from a single draft. Second, even if I did, it wouldn't be this year's weak draft. No way.

 

[hcsilla]

Brilliant plan.

Trading everything for a lot of picks in one of the worst drafts ever.

Even if the Suns fell apart, I wouldn't destroy the remaining parts.