My rankings 3.0

[Chopper0080]

Mykel Williams is the toughest one for me. People who get paid to evaluate draft prospects insist the bend and burst are there. I have never seen it. When I compare Williams and Stewart, Williams looks like a significantly more linear athlete than Stewart.

 

[Chopper0080]

Also, I think the Cardinals may have to trade up for Grant if they want him. Any OG at 16 is a waste IMO.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

There is a rumor that some anonymous personnel guy have said that Pearce have the “worst character report” of any player in this draft. Who knows if it is true, but teams obviously know a lot more than us fans. He is supposedly close to uncoachable.

I remember years ago, my BIL told me Danielle Hunter was about the worst interview he had ever been part of. He has turned out pretty well. But it might also be the reason he dropped to the 3rd round. IIRC, he was considered a 1st round talent.

 

[Chopper0080]

I remember years ago, my BIL told me Danielle Hunter was about the worst interview he had ever been part of. He has turned out pretty well. But it might also be the reason he dropped to the 3rd round. IIRC, he was considered a 1st round talent.

Lack of production was a huge red flag for Hunter who as a RS Soph. 4.5 sacks for his career at LSU. 1.5 his last year.

 

[Gandhi]

Mykel Williams is the toughest one for me. People who get paid to evaluate draft prospects insist the bend and burst are there. I have never seen it. When I compare Williams and Stewart, Williams looks like a significantly more linear athlete than Stewart.

You have to go back to 2023, for the reasons I mentioned. I would recommend the games against Florida State and South Carolina, for example.

He's no Ezeiruaku or Umanmielen when it comes to bend, by the way. Just so you don't expect to see that.

 

[Gandhi]

Why waste almost 20M for easy to find players to occupy blockers?

Because that is just what it cost in free agency. It's not mine or your money, so don't focus on that.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Because that is just what it cost in free agency. It's not mine or your money, so don't focus on that.

Of course it isn't, but if those roles could be filled by the Roy Lopez types, you'd have more money to add better players vs. flushing 20M.

 

[Gandhi]

I remember years ago, my BIL told me Danielle Hunter was about the worst interview he had ever been part of. He has turned out pretty well. But it might also be the reason he dropped to the 3rd round. IIRC, he was considered a 1st round talent.

For every Danielle Hunter there is a Robert Nkemdiche. I just think that Ossenfort will stay away, and frankly, I would too. There are many other good edge rushers to choose between.

 

[GatorAZ]

Mykel Williams is the toughest one for me. People who get paid to evaluate draft prospects insist the bend and burst are there. I have never seen it. When I compare Williams and Stewart, Williams looks like a significantly more linear athlete than Stewart.

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Doesn’t turn 21 until June. Also a high character guy from the sounds of it.

 

[Gandhi]

Of course it isn't, but if those roles could be filled by the Roy Lopez types, you'd have more money to add better players vs. flushing 20M

When Gannon was with the Eagles during their Super Bowl run in 2022, only two of the six most used DTs on that defensive line had a higher base salary than Nichols and Jones.

 

[Harry]

Also, I think the Cardinals may have to trade up for Grant if they want him. Any OG at 16 is a waste IMO.

I’d sit still and take Nolen. I like angry on DL.

 

[Harry]

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Doesn’t turn 21 until June. Also a high character guy from the sounds of it.

A few guys put him top 10 in draft.

 

[Chopper0080]

A few guys put him top 10 in draft.

I have heard this as well.

 

[GatorAZ]

A few guys put him top 10 in draft.

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I remember him being projected #1 overall in a preseason mock. He just never broke out as expected. Still young.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

I like angry on DL.

And OL.

 

[Gandhi]

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I remember him being projected #1 overall in a preseason mock. He just never broke out as expected. Still young.

He never broke out because he was injured. He estimate himself that he played at 60% all season, yet he still played, which shows about his character. He is supposedly a great guy. Also, many times he was playing a little out of position, almost as a defensive tackle, so it wan't that often that he got to just go after the quarterback. I think that his potential is enormous.

 

[BACH]

Check the Mic just mocked Shemar Stewart to us at #16.

They are aware of the Trevon Walker comp.

He is as athletically gifted.

The lack of pass-rush production is concerning.

He is a much better overall football player than Walker (beast in the run game)

This is the 16th pick, not the #1 overall where you take him over Hutchinson

The floor is much higher and you should get a average starter at a minimum - the ceiling of getting an Elite pass-rusher is the question

 

[GatorAZ]

Stewart played inside a bit. It might be a coaching issue with all the A&M guys that underachieved.

 

[Gandhi]

Check the Mic just mocked Shemar Stewart to us at #16.

They are aware of the Trevon Walker comp.

He is as athletically gifted.

The lack of pass-rush production is concerning.

He is a much better overall football player than Walker (beast in the run game)

This is the 16th pick, not the #1 overall where you take him over Hutchinson

The floor is much higher and you should get a average starter at a minimum - the ceiling of getting an Elite pass-rusher is the question

Who does that podcast, Bach? I think I have heard about it.

I agree, by the way. I also think the point they make - that he is great run defender - lower the risk of drafting a bust. Obviously, you are drafting him for his ability to pass rush, but it is worth remembering that his floor is most likely still enough to contribute in later years.

If you draft Stewart, you are going for the gold. That is how I see it. He could become an absolute monster.

 

[Gandhi]

It might be a coaching issue with all the A&M guys that underachieved.

I am not sure it is a coaching issue, Gator, as much as it is simply the way they want to play. Nic Scourton also had a worse year than when he was at Purdue. On that tape he plays like a surefire first rounder.

 

[Gandhi]

I want to ask you guys a question. What do you think about Jalon Walker?

I am asking because I am very much in doubt, and have been going back and forth since my first rankings in January. He is a wonderful fit as a traditional linebacker in base-defense and then moving to edge rusher in nickel. He would never have to come off the field. I think I am personally a little higher on Jihaad Campbell (who is a similar type of player), but many analysts seem to prefer Walker. He could slide a bit due to size limitations. Would you guys draft him at #16?

 

[BACH]

Who does that podcast, Bach? I think I have heard about it.

I agree, by the way. I also think the point they make - that he is great run defender - lower the risk of drafting a bust. Obviously, you are drafting him for his ability to pass rush, but it is worth remembering that his floor is most likely still enough to contribute in later years.

If you draft Stewart, you are going for the gold. That is how I see it. He could become an absolute monster.

Check the Mic - The two former PFF head analysts. Super insightful, way down in the detail and now allowed to use their knowledge and much less focus on pff numbers. My favorite part is their knowledge of all teams. I have not head any other national podcast go down into the detail and e.g. discuss on whether Dimukeje is a good back-up or not.

In an earlier podcast they comp him to Mario Williams - saying that his was by all accounts a disappointment as the #1 overall pick, but that a team probably would be very happy with the outcome if he had been drafted in the teens.

 

[BACH]

I want to ask you guys a question. What do you think about Jalon Walker?

I am asking because I am very much in doubt, and have been going back and forth since my first rankings in January. He is a wonderful fit as a traditional linebacker in base-defense and then moving to edge rusher in nickel. He would never have to come off the field. I think I am personally a little higher on Jihaad Campbell (who is a similar type of player), but many analysts seem to prefer Walker. He could slide a bit due to size limitations. Would you guys draft him at #16?

I think you got your analysis right. Rated higher than Campbell due to the pass-rush.

I would not draft him at #16, because I see him as a 7-tec player. I would assume that we need a 5-tec Edge

 

[Chopper0080]

Check the Mic just mocked Shemar Stewart to us at #16.

They are aware of the Trevon Walker comp.

He is as athletically gifted.

The lack of pass-rush production is concerning.

He is a much better overall football player than Walker (beast in the run game)

This is the 16th pick, not the #1 overall where you take him over Hutchinson

The floor is much higher and you should get a average starter at a minimum - the ceiling of getting an Elite pass-rusher is the question

I can understand this rationale.

 

[Gandhi]

Check the Mic - The two former PFF head analysts. Super insightful, way down in the detail and now allowed to use their knowledge and much less focus on pff numbers. My favorite part is their knowledge of all teams. I have not head any other national podcast go down into the detail and e.g. discuss on whether Dimukeje is a good back-up or not.

In an earlier podcast they comp him to Mario Williams - saying that his was by all accounts a disappointment as the #1 overall pick, but that a team probably would be very happy with the outcome if he had been drafted in the teens.

Oh right, the Irish guy? I have listened to that.