My suggested approach to the Off-season - 1st wave wrap-up & looking ahead

[Stout]

We seem to be discussing different things.

To answer this question. Yes. I agree there is a need for a speed WR. I state again. Would love to add one of the speed guys in the 2nd and 3rd.

To answer the original question. No. I do not agree it’s a gaping hole. I based that on how much we run 12 and 13 and how much we pass out of that AND how much we run out of 3 WR set. Zach Pascal had a crazy amount of snaps as a blocking WR. Would a speed WR be able to do that? I doubt it, hence I do not think there will be that many snaps for that speed WR to make him a huge part of the offense.

Yes, we are. That has been my point. I'm very cool disagreeing with the rest. To each their own

 

[DaHilg]

This I can agree with.. He’s no where near Slayton today though and Slayton has on field speed I haven’t seen from MW.. but I do feel his ceiling could yield similar stats, again his ceiling which I’m not sure he can reach

So @BACH MW runs a sub 4.4 40 just like Slayton as well? MW would put up Nabers caliber stats in acting as a WR1 when Nabers was hurt last year just like Slayton?

Ya we all know the answers to that, such a clown

 

[BACH]

So @BACH MW runs a sub 4.4 40 just like Slayton as well? MW would put up Nabers caliber stats in acting as a WR1 when Nabers was hurt last year just like Slayton?

Ya we all know the answers to that, such a clown

If you best argument is to bring up a player with the 3rd highest drop rate in the NFL as a superior player then you are wasting everyone’s time here.

You are also comparing stats from a player in a passing offense to another player in a 12 personel running offense meaning Slayton actually were in on about 50 more passing plays.

 

[DaHilg]

If you best argument is to bring up a player with the 3rd highest drop rate in the NFL as a superior player then you are wasting everyone’s time here.

You are also comparing stats from a player in a passing offense to another player in a 12 personel running offense meaning Slayton actually were in on about 50 more passing plays.

Dude you’re comical.. at this point I think you actually believe you’re an NFL scout. Anyone with any type of football IQ would know that Slayton compared to MW is a massive upgrade.

MW will never have a 10mm a year contract

 

[BACH]

Dude you’re comical.. at this point I think you actually believe you’re an NFL scout. Anyone with any type of football IQ would know that Slayton compared to MW is a massive upgrade.

MW will never have a 10mm a year contract

You can challenge my knowledge all you want. Be my guest.

But I’m guessing your attack on me as a person and not the discussion means you have zero counter arguments and nothing to contribute yourself. You clearly do not care comment on a 15.2% drop rate.

That last sentence will come back to hit you.

 

[DaHilg]

You can challenge my knowledge all you want. Be my guest.

But I’m guessing your attack on me as a person and not the discussion means you have zero counter arguments and nothing to contribute yourself. You clearly do not care comment on a 15.2% drop rate.

That last sentence will come back to hit you.

You’re a joke… still waiting for those WR2 attributes. Been asking for them 25 posts ago. You still can’t answer all-star.

 

[BACH]

You’re a joke… still waiting for those WR2 attributes. Been asking for them 25 posts ago. You still can’t answer all-star.

And I answered 24 posts ago…

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

3rd receiving option. And, again, we were talking about rooms. TEs aren't in the WR room and has no impact on how good/bad the WR room is.

I understand the argument that our second receiver will be our third passing option due to Trey’s excellence. What I don’t understand is that people want to downgrade the WR2’s relevance as a result of Trey being so good. Having a great TE is only great if it’s in addition to, not in lieu of, having two good receivers.

 

[oaken1]

I understand the argument that our second receiver will be our third passing option due to Trey’s excellence. What I don’t understand is that people want to downgrade the WR2’s relevance as a result of Trey being so good. Having a great TE is only great if it’s in addition to, not in lieu of, having two good receivers.

Either way a legit speed threat makes them all better.
Loosening up the defense will make MikeWilly much better as the short and intermediate areas will be less cluttered.
Will make Trey and Marvin better for the same reason.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Yeah this might be a step to far for me. (1) Comparing what Mahomes can to do almost anyone else is kind of a fool's errand. (2) KC's passing offense was pretty mid last year. The year before they were top 5 but had Rashee Rice playing pretty good ball. THey were also #2 in the NFL in passing attempts, and that's not gonna happen here.

I'm gonna need another example (at least) to believe this isn't sui generis or just a Reid thing (I was thinking of those McNabb teams that had, like, Todd Pinkston as the top receiver and still kept going to the NFC Championship game every year).

Green Bay last year had a top 5 offense and no one had more than 76 targets. That's wild.

Didn't you just give yourself your own example?

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I understand the argument that our second receiver will be our third passing option due to Trey’s excellence. What I don’t understand is that people want to downgrade the WR2’s relevance as a result of Trey being so good. Having a great TE is only great if it’s in addition to, not in lieu of, having two good receivers.

I don't think downgrade is the way to look at it. It would be to fill other holes that would have more of an impact. (OL, DL, ILB etc)

 

[dreamcastrocks]

You’re a joke… still waiting for those WR2 attributes. Been asking for them 25 posts ago. You still can’t answer all-star.

One of these days, you will stop attacking posters. At least I hope.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I don't think downgrade is the way to look at it. It would be to fill other holes that would have more of an impact. (OL, DL, ILB etc)

I wasn’t speaking in terms of prioritization in the draft, but rather people being dismissive of the role due to the fact we have a top end TE. Again, doing so just semi-negates having a top end TE because he’s also compensating for having a subpar WR2.

 

[Goldfield]

I’d love an upgrade at WR2

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I wasn’t speaking in terms of prioritization in the draft, but rather people being dismissive of the role due to the fact we have a top end TE. Again, doing so just semi-negates having a top end TE because he’s also compensating for having a subpar WR2.

I also would have been just fine with Bowers in a trade down last year. I wonder what our team would look like then...