My top 2 targets at 13

[Cbus cardsfan]

If I'm Keim, these 2 guys are my #1 and #1a guys that have a legit shot at being there at 13. Reuben Foster, which should surprise no one as I've been clamoring for him for the longest time. He brings everything to the defense, play-making ability, speed, nastiness, winning mentality, and is an elite football player.

The other is OJ Howard. I think he's so far off the charts as a TE that he would bring a completely new dynamic to the offense. He's a superior athlete, excellent blocker, excellent pass catcher, and a mismatch nightmare for the opponent. I don't want to hear that BA doesn't know how to utilize a TE because that's a garbage argument. He hasn't had a TE like Howard and he'll make very good use out of him and he would completely control inside the hashmarks and would open up the outside/deep passing game.

As much as I like Foster, I'm kind of leaning toward Howard.......today anyway.

 

[BleedRed]

Foster is #1 on my list as well.

 

[MrYeahBut]

I like the idea of Howard. Find a cornerback somewhere and the defense will be survive. It's the offense that's going to need all the help they can get. I also think a great tight-end would be a godsend to any new QB coming in next year.

 

[Stout]

I'm shaky on Foster now. How much of the talk is just talk or smoke? Is there fire there? Only the team can know for sure (or at least have a better guess than me).

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

Foster or Howard in the 1st would be great picks. Couple that with a safety or CB in the 2nd and things will be looking good! Or if somehow, someway...Solomon Thomas falls to us...that would be a godsend.

 

[HGC]

Love both of them especially Howard who's the complete package at TE and as much as I want to for find the heir apparent to Fitz I'd be happy to get the next stud TE. Howard's the riser in this draft unfortunately.

 

[Mitch]

If Foster checks out medically (concussions/shoulder surgery), he's an alpha ILB who could take the defense to another level.

The question I have is -- if we draft Foster at #13, does he sit behind Karlos Dansby for 10 weeks of the season the way David Johnson sat behind Chris Johnson? Or -- do the Cardinals recognize that Foster is a starter from day one?

As for Howard, I too an enamored with the talent and his character. As I've said before, one could make the case that he could take over Fitz's slot/flex H-Back role. Neither Corey Davis nor Mike Williams are suited for that role as well as Howard is.

 

[Ohcrap75]

I would definitely be pumped with either of those two!

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

If Foster checks out medically (concussions/shoulder surgery), he's an alpha ILB who could take the defense to another level.

The question I have is -- if we draft Foster at #13, does he sit behind Karlos Dansby for 10 weeks of the season the way David Johnson sat behind Chris Johnson? Or -- do the Cardinals recognize that Foster is a starter from day one?

As for Howard, I too an enamored with the talent and his character. As I've said before, one could make the case that he could take over Fitz's slot/flex H-Back role. Neither Corey Davis nor Mike Williams are suited for that role as well as Howard is.

With Foster's talent...I can't see Arians sitting him for too long. They'll probably move Buc to the secondary and have Dansby and Foster as the two ILB's...I would hope.

 

[JeffGollin]

If Foster checks out medically (concussions/shoulder surgery), he's an alpha ILB who could take the defense to another level.

The question I have is -- if we draft Foster at #13, does he sit behind Karlos Dansby for 10 weeks of the season the way David Johnson sat behind Chris Johnson? Or -- do the Cardinals recognize that Foster is a starter from day one?

As for Howard, I too an enamored with the talent and his character. As I've said before, one could make the case that he could take over Fitz's slot/flex H-Back role. Neither Corey Davis nor Mike Williams are suited for that role as well as Howard is.

That be up to Reuben.

 

[Chopper0080]

Due to the depth of the draft at TE, I would take Reuben Foster. That being said, either would be great for this team.

The perfect draft probably goes

1-Reuben Foster
2-Trade up in the back 3rd of round 1 and take Pat Mahomes to get the 5th year option
3-Josh Jones/Marcus Williams

That isn't what I think happens, but it is the best case scenario I can come up with. Of course, you can substitute whatever QB you like with Mahomes, I just feel he has the highest ceiling.

 

[cardncubfan]

Howard is who I want as well if Mahomes isn't there.

 

[JeffGollin]

Due to the depth of the draft at TE, I would take Reuben Foster. That being said, either would be great for this team.

The perfect draft probably goes

1-Reuben Foster
2-Trade up in the back 3rd of round 1 and take Pat Mahomes to get the 5th year option
3-Josh Jones/Marcus Williams

That isn't what I think happens, but it is the best case scenario I can come up with. Of course, you can substitute whatever QB you like with Mahomes, I just feel he has the highest ceiling.

How about Foster, Webb, Feeney, and then load up on CB's, a big WR and a safety?

 

[TheCardFan]

Right now...I would take Foster or Corey Davis at #13. If they are not there, I would trade back in round 1 (but afraid there are a lot of teams wanting to do the same thing) and maybe take a chance on a QB like Mahomes (this board has put me on the Mahomes train) or Zach Cunningham. Two players with a ton of upside.

After Lattimore, I think there are 5-6 CB's that are basically the same and we could grab one of them in rd 2 (like Tabor). Unfortunately, I am sure King will be gone by then.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Foster is more of a gamble than you are making it out.

Concussions, poor decision making, immaturity, and possibly lacks football smarts.

I also think this current team leadership might not value ILB as much as some on this board do.

 

[Mitch]

I worry that Foster won't hold up physically. The rest I can overlook for what a beast he is on the field.

 

[Finito]

No thanks on Foster haven't heard one good thing about him this offseason and Saban had some concerning things to say about him. No thanks

 

[Krangodnzr]

No thanks on Foster haven't heard one good thing about him this offseason and Saban had some concerning things to say about him. No thanks

Yeah the comment about him needing a support network is very troubling...

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I texted my buddy last night. All I said was Foster or Howard?

Response= Foster.

That makes me think he'll be gone before 13. I hope not.

 

[Gandhi]

Foster is more of a gamble than you are making it out.

Concussions, poor decision making, immaturity, and possibly lacks football smarts.

I also think this current team leadership might not value ILB as much as some on this board do.

I agree, Krang. I could definitely understand the pick, if it did happen, since he can be a monster on the field, but like you, I don't think it is such a slamdunk as a lot of people (both fans and media) seems to think.

By the way, I could easily see both Steve Keim and Bruce Arians be very interested in the linebacker from Florida, Jarrad Davis. Probably not at #13 but I do believe he is a first round pick. Davis is not the same player as Foster but he is a much better leader, quarterback of the defense and - by all accounts - teammate.

 

[Southpaw]

If I'm Keim, these 2 guys are my #1 and #1a guys that have a legit shot at being there at 13. Reuben Foster, which should surprise no one as I've been clamoring for him for the longest time. He brings everything to the defense, play-making ability, speed, nastiness, winning mentality, and is an elite football player.

The other is OJ Howard. I think he's so far off the charts as a TE that he would bring a completely new dynamic to the offense. He's a superior athlete, excellent blocker, excellent pass catcher, and a mismatch nightmare for the opponent. I don't want to hear that BA doesn't know how to utilize a TE because that's a garbage argument. He hasn't had a TE like Howard and he'll make very good use out of him and he would completely control inside the hashmarks and would open up the outside/deep passing game.

As much as I like Foster, I'm kind of leaning toward Howard.......today anyway.

Someone has a love affair with Alabama.

 

[Mitch]

I agree, Krang. I could definitely understand the pick, if it did happen, since he can be a monster on the field, but like you, I don't think it is such a slamdunk as a lot of people (both fans and media) seems to think.

By the way, I could easily see both Steve Keim and Bruce Arians be very interested in the linebacker from Florida, Jarrad Davis. Probably not at #13 but I do believe he is a first round pick. Davis is not the same player as Foster but he is a much better leader, quarterback of the defense and - by all accounts - teammate.

The player who would seem to be more of a slam dunk for the Cardinals is LB Haason Reddick of Temple. Not only can he play all 4 LB positions on the defense, he is the best pass rushing LB in the draft. Plus, as a former CB, he has very good cover skills. He's bigger and faster than Reuben Foster and much more versatile than Jarrad Davis.

 

[Krangodnzr]

The player who would seem to be more of a slam dunk for the Cardinals is LB Haason Reddick of Temple. Not only can he play all 4 LB positions on the defense, he is the best pass rushing LB in the draft. Plus, as a former CB, he has very good cover skills. He's bigger and faster than Reuben Foster and much more versatile than Jarrad Davis.

I could see the Cardinals drafting Reddick. Great athlete and very versatile.

 

[Southpaw]

Foster is more of a gamble than you are making it out.

Concussions, poor decision making, immaturity, and possibly lacks football smarts.

I also think this current team leadership might not value ILB as much as some on this board do.

Couldn't agree more. The Alabama mystique is somewhat mythical. Worn out players and good players on a great team is not a good combination for over valueing them. Give me a great difference making player from a "good" team.i.e Hassan Reddick.

 

[Finito]

I'd be very happy with Redick in round 1 or Reakwon McCmillian in round 2.