N.Y. dealing Anthony Randolph

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The guy hasn't proven anything so a first round pick is high price.

We don't want to give up picks for such a risk, we badly need all the picks we have and need to capitalize on them.

But it is no surprise, Gambo yesterday said the Suns wouldn't have any interest in OJ Mayo either, we had no interest in Beasley.

God forbid we had a young talented player on the roster that gets some minutes. Fans might actually be more interessted following a bad team.
 

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If the media reports are true the Suns probably would have dealt Amare to Golden State last year if the Warriors had been willing to include Randolph in the deal in place of Curry.

The Orlando pick will be around #25. Does anybody here believe that the Suns can get a better prospect than Randolph with the 25th pick in this summer's draft?

Maybe the next Earl Clark??? Some guys can't handle all the distractions of playing in NY.
 

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Whats the point of adding an underdized 225 lb PF? I thought we already had one in Warrick...

Arent we already undersized as it is?
 

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Randolph is 6'11. He is not undersized, he surely should add some more muscle but size isn't a problem with Randolph it is attitude.
 

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The Orlando pick will be around #25. Does anybody here believe that the Suns can get a better prospect than Randolph with the 25th pick in this summer's draft?

There will be better players available but it is doubtful the Suns will identify who they are since they seem to automatically stay away from any player without a squeaky clean past.
 

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There will be better players available but it is doubtful the Suns will identify who they are since they seem to automatically stay away from any player without a squeaky clean past.

I think this stereotype was broken when the Suns traded for Marbury and their drafting Amare. The only reason Amare slipped to the Suns in the draft was questions about his background.
 

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I think this stereotype was broken when the Suns traded for Marbury and their drafting Amare. The only reason Amare slipped to the Suns in the draft was questions about his background.

That was all pre-Sarver, pre-Babby.

Since then the organization absolutely squashed any interest in players like Beasley and Mayo.
 

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That was all pre-Sarver, pre-Babby.

Since then the organization absolutely squashed any interest in players like Beasley and Mayo.

Well if it's been that way for a few months, we can pretty much count on it being that way forever.

What was that logic error that you gave us a Wikipedia link for just a day or two ago?
 

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That was all pre-Sarver, pre-Babby.

Since then the organization absolutely squashed any interest in players like Beasley and Mayo.

IMO you have to evaluate on a player by player basis. i.e., can we live with his issues?

There have been some really talented teams that sucked because of chemistry issues. You can't just ignore it.
 

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That was all pre-Sarver, pre-Babby.

Since then the organization absolutely squashed any interest in players like Beasley and Mayo.

How many players "like" Beasley and Mayo are you talking about? First off, only a truly desperate team would have gambled on a risk guy like Beasley. A LOT of teams passed on him because in addition to his many off court issues he had yet to show that he could actually play in the NBA. If Blake Griffin is too small for his position, what is Beasley?

It's a bit too early to roast the front office for Mayo. Where's your proof or even evidence that we could have had him and that we opted not to because of character?

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I would trade the Suns 1st round pick for him in a heartbeat.

The draft is going to suck this year, and the Suns will probably be in the 13-17 range. Meh.

Randolph was on the rise in GS, (11/6/2 in just 22 minutes a game) but for some reason completely fell out of favor in NY. He is much better than Warrick. Does many of the same things but actually has a decent jumper and can rebound.
 

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I would trade the Suns 1st round pick for him in a heartbeat.

The draft is going to suck this year, and the Suns will probably be in the 13-17 range. Meh.

Randolph was on the rise in GS, (11/6/2 in just 22 minutes a game) but for some reason completely fell out of favor in NY. He is much better than Warrick. Does many of the same things but actually has a decent jumper and can rebound.

Exactly, GS didn't want to let him go but had to to get Lee.
 

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I would trade the Suns 1st round pick for him in a heartbeat.

The draft is going to suck this year, and the Suns will probably be in the 13-17 range. Meh.

Randolph was on the rise in GS, (11/6/2 in just 22 minutes a game) but for some reason completely fell out of favor in NY. He is much better than Warrick. Does many of the same things but actually has a decent jumper and can rebound.

I'd trade Orlando's pick for him but no way would I trade ours. I disagree with the 13 - 17 range also. I think we pick 7th or 8th unless we get lucky in the lottery or unlucky with Nash's health. How many times since the draft began has the draft actually sucked? I don't know the answer but I suspect it's somewhere in the neighborhood of rarely.

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Don't we have someone eerily similar to Randolph in Channing Frye. I soft big man who makes a living on the perimeter and is below average at post defense. Even their career paths are similar, both were lottery picks whom their respective teams deemed untouchable but eventually were dealt for not living up to their expectations and were/are being cast off by their second teams.
 

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I would trade the Suns 1st round pick for him in a heartbeat.

The draft is going to suck this year, and the Suns will probably be in the 13-17 range. Meh.

Randolph was on the rise in GS, (11/6/2 in just 22 minutes a game) but for some reason completely fell out of favor in NY. He is much better than Warrick. Does many of the same things but actually has a decent jumper and can rebound.

Trade a lottery pick for someone who has never proven anything except half decent stats on a fast paced team that was one of the worst teams in the league.. yes please!

The draft won't be weak, same story as every year.
 

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Why is Randolph getting no minutes. Even with Amare there he should get minutes at C and backup pf. He is an average rebounder, but we could use an average rebounder. Why is he being traded twice?

Randolph is probably a decent pickup with the Orlando pick as long as there are not locker room issues.
 

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Why is Randolph getting no minutes. Even with Amare there he should get minutes at C and backup pf. He is an average rebounder, but we could use an average rebounder. Why is he being traded twice?

Randolph is probably a decent pickup with the Orlando pick as long as there are not locker room issues.

This is what bothers me. I know DA likes a short rotation but if Randoph can play, he should have received more playing time. I'm sure DA knows he will need a first round pick to make a larger trade so he might be holding him back for this purpose. However, I think there must be more. I haven't seen other teams knocking down the door to get him. Here is a link to his stats.

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/anthony_randolph/career_stats.html
 
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Don't trade our (lottery) pick for him, but trade the Orlando pick and throw in a wing or something. We've got a bucket of chicken wings but not much talent. Put Randolph on a heavy diet of red meat and starter minutes.
 

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Randolph is nothing like Frye... nothing... is he? Now I'm scared.
 
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Randolph does not have an outside game this is why he doesn't see any minutes. Plus MikeD never wanted to develop players this is why he doesn't get any minutes. I think Randolph might be able to play the role of Lou this year and possible get more time to develope. I think it would be worth the Magic #1 for sure.
 
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