Name three Suns with the worst +/- stat this season
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I would guess Torrey Craig and Ish Wainwright for two of them and then Damion or maybe Shamet if he has enough minutes.
I would guess possibly DA?
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I wouldn't have thought of DA but I guess all those minutes he played when we were missing Booker and a bunch of other players could have left his +/- looking bad. Same with Mikal come to think of it. They're probably weak from a league-wide perspective but I don't know if they'd be near the bottom of our roster.
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The more I think about it the more I believe Mikal and Ayton have to be close to the bottom as they logged the most minutes for us during the stretch when we were having to start or rotate in players that are barely NBA level and were getting outscored almost every night.
I still think Craig and Ish will be near the bottom too (they also logged a lot of time) but Saric and Shamet can't be far away. IOW, I think this is one of those years when +/- tells us very little about the players. I'd also guess that Okogie and to a lesser extent Damion Lee, also have better plus/minus numbers than their current play would suggest since they were logging a lot of minutes at the same time they were playing their best. So while they hurt us now, they were each critical during an earlier stretch even though we still lost most of those games.
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I edited my post to state that only players on the current roster are included.
Mikal actually has a positive +/- and is in the middle of the pack. Saric would have been in the bottom 3. And surprisingly, the best is actually CamJ, significantly better than Book, but within a smaller sample, of course.
Oh, and I definitely agree with you that the stat might be somewhat misleading this year.
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I know as a team the Suns are in the top 10. 3 players come to mind because of fouls and/or turnovers. Ross and Craig? They seem to commit a bunch of fouls on shots. Possibly Ayton? He seems to turn over the ball much with his stone hands.
I am going with:
Craig
Ayton
Payne
Craig
Ayton
Payne
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Payne, Okogie, Ayton
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CP3, Book, DA
Book is consistently one of the better performers in +/-.
Just to use tonight....
Craig team leading -12
Ayton -3
Booker +10
Payne +17 is one I might be wrong in
Craig team leading -12
Ayton -3
Booker +10
Payne +17 is one I might be wrong in
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Ayton, Okogie, Shamet. I'm dying to know the answers. When do we get them?
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I don't think it could be Shamet, he missed too many games and it is a cumulative stat.
I was trying to think of guys that played a ton while the team was in that putrid stretch without Booker, Paul and Cam.
I was trying to think of guys that played a ton while the team was in that putrid stretch without Booker, Paul and Cam.
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You make a point. I was considering Payne but didn't want to copy you lol.
Ayton, Craig, and Landale?
Guessing on Jock, figured I'd name him since no one else has.
Odd anyone would guess Mikal given he had one of the best on off splits in the league over the last few years, if my memory is correct. I'm fairly certain he was the best on the team last year. This year has been wonky though.
Guessing on Jock, figured I'd name him since no one else has.
Odd anyone would guess Mikal given he had one of the best on off splits in the league over the last few years, if my memory is correct. I'm fairly certain he was the best on the team last year. This year has been wonky though.
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I didn't really think Mikal would be one of the worst 3, just suggested he and Ayton would be close to it because they logged a lot of minutes when we were missing 3 to 7 of our best players every night. And that's especially true of Bridges.
Mikal has been our best plus/minus player the past few years but this year he played injured for about 6 weeks (that's a guess based on watching him play and his stats, offense and defense). Intersecting with that time would have been the stretch where we were so shorthanded.
Anyway, my guess would be Craig, Ayton and Shamet. I think Saric would probably be there too if he were still with us. And whatever Mikal and DA's ranking is, I'd wager their plus/minus is down considerably this year from the past few years.
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CP3, Damien lee, shamet
When does this game end?
I noticed the person that posted this only has 7 posts. Maybe a drive by posting. LOL.
So, I looked it up but it does include guys no longer here.
Putting this in Spoiler tags in case people still want to play.
So, I looked it up but it does include guys no longer here.
Putting this in Spoiler tags in case people still want to play.
| Players | +/- |
| Kevin Durant | 15.3 |
| Cameron Johnson | 5.7 |
| Devin Booker | 4.2 |
| T.J. Warren | 4.2 |
| Jock Landale | 2.2 |
| Ish Wainright | 1.8 |
| Cameron Payne | 1.6 |
| Damion Lee | 1.4 |
| Josh Okogie | 1.4 |
| Chris Paul | 0.8 |
| Mikal Bridges | 0.8 |
| Bismack Biyombo | 0.6 |
| Landry Shamet | 0.5 |
| Duane Washington Jr. | -0.2 |
| Saben Lee | -0.5 |
| Deandre Ayton | -0.6 |
| Dario Saric | -0.8 |
| Terrence Ross | -1.2 |
| Torrey Craig | -3 |
| Darius Bazley | -4.4 |
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