Nash - Felton (Bobcats)

[Cheesebeef]

yeah, I definitely don't think there was malice involved, but it was intentional. It actually reminded me of my high school playing days when I was (and remain) an ATROCIOUS defensive player and I definitely used that move once or twice. In fact, I think my parent's even have me on tape doing it from a game a long, long, time ago in a galaxy far, far away.

 

[Rab]

Someone actually did that to me in our city league games a couple weeks ago. He got picked and when I went around, he tried to trip me. Pissed me off.

 

[nowagimp]

After seeing it again, it did look like he did it on purpose. I doubt the intent to injure was a motive, but he was trying to trip him for sure.

The threat of injury is often used in NBA games to make shooters miss, this is part of Bowens "good defense". Jump in the air, he'll sub you(remember starks and marion?). Thing is its widespread, its not just bowen. It used to be that the problem would correct itself as the dirty player would "get it back". But Sterns policies have prevented that and now teams use thugs who dont expose themselves on offense(like bowen, fortson etc). They can get away with it because of the threat of suspensions for retaliation and because they are mostly not vulnerable(dont go into the lane area much on offense). Its all compounded by the refs not calling fouls and everyone getting away with cheap shots. In such an atmosphere, players will "play the game"(foul to get away with it). This is why you just cant "let em play", it all devolves into disrespect and potential for injuries, even purposeful intent to injure. Something needs to be done, as many fans are also turned off by the incessant fouling that isnt called. When steve nash resorts to the blatant trip on D, you know things have really fallen to a low point. Heck If I was Nash, getting whacked all the time with nary a call, I'd eventually get pissed off enough to resort to strategic fouling, especially when there are so few being called. The NBA officiating has become so hypocritical its a joke, it starts looking contrived all to often when a foul is finally called (why now?). Foul guys out, and then they will adjust to play a clean game, otherwise it'll be more of the same crap, whack and hack as a strategy(when the refs are not looking or even when they are).

 

[nowagimp]

Someone actually did that to me in our city league games a couple weeks ago. He got picked and when I went around, he tried to trip me. Pissed me off.

Many years ago when I used to go into the city(philly) to play, if you did that there would be an instant brawl, and you would get hurt. Disrespect somebody on pavement like that or sub them going to the hoop and you'd have a war on your hands. And the thing is you would probably get hit, not by the player you fouled, but by others. These guys have alot more to lose so if you injure them you're putting a great career in jeopardy, not just some skinned knees. I saw Dr. J. rabbit punch larry Bird for a cheapshot, right in the chops and then they were separated. Now days that would have been an automatic suspension of 15 games, ********. Retaliation is part of the game when there is no respect, and sternites suppressing the retaliation cant work unless the cheapshots are punished more severely. When matrix was subbed by starks, matrix lost a whole bunch of games due to injury, starks lost squat. The punishment should fit the crime in the case of a cheapshot, not some silly 1 game suspension. You get caught in a blatant risky cheapshot, you should be out with no pay until the other guy comes back, up to a point(15 games?).

 

[LV-Suns]

I'm sure Nash will not get suspended. This is nothing compared to the madness Bowen showed in the playoffs.

 

[tobiazz]

I wouldn't be mad if Nash received a one game suspension for that trip. Luckily for Nash, Felton is not a star. I'm sure tripping Lebron or Wade would be considered more egregious.

 

[NDNACE]

Nash is old school. It was just a hard foul, nothing more, nothing less. It would make Robert Horry proud.

 

[dodie53]

i wish nash would do that to bowen or horry.

 

[LV-Suns]

I wouldn't be mad if Nash received a one game suspension for that trip. Luckily for Nash, Felton is not a star. I'm sure tripping Lebron or Wade would be considered more egregious.

It's not that Nash did it intentionally. If Nash gets suspended, look at the image David Stern is going to have. It wasn't just once or twice Bowen INTENTIONALLY tripped our players.

 

[tobiazz]

It's not that Nash did it intentionally. If Nash gets suspended, look at the image David Stern is going to have. It wasn't just once or twice Bowen INTENTIONALLY tripped our players.

I should have noted that, compared to Bowen, Nash does not deserve a suspension. But in my ideal world, Nash gets a one-game suspension for this, Kobe gets a one-game suspension for his arm flail, Raja gets a one-game suspension for his Kobe takedown, and Bowen would have had many multi-game suspensions by now.

 

[SASpursfan]

If you saw the game, Nash was one of the first ones over to Felton to see if he was ok. He may have left his foot there, but he did not have cruel intentions.

How did you know what his intentions were?

I had read about this incident on a spurs board but didnt bother to view the video. However, after viewing it one cant argue that it wasnt intentional. The more disturbing part was Nash not even trying to remove his leg from the intentional trip.

 

[LV-Suns]

How did you know what his intentions were?

I had read about this incident on a spurs board but didnt bother to view the video. However, after viewing it one cant argue that it wasnt intentional. The more disturbing part was Nash not even trying to remove his leg from the intentional trip.

Man you have no right to talk
Nash is no Bowen.

 

[mribnik]

How did you know what his intentions were?

I had read about this incident on a spurs board but didnt bother to view the video. However, after viewing it one cant argue that it wasnt intentional. The more disturbing part was Nash not even trying to remove his leg from the intentional trip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOTnU2VaS_s

The most disturbing part about this video is that Bowen jumps and kicks a guy in the face.

 

[nowagimp]

How did you know what his intentions were?

The more disturbing part was Nash not even trying to remove his leg from the intentional trip.

Now thats just dumb, removing it from a twisted pileup could have increased the injury risks, like a leg sweep. Besides you seem to assume that removing his leg from the tangle would have been easy. Tim Duncan extends his leg on the dribble penetrator all the time. All this concern coming from a fan of the #1 cheap shot team in the NBA is really disingenuous. Were you concerned when Bowen kicked wally in the face, gave a cheap shot to korver, or subbed any one of a number of other players, including shaq and lebron, risking far more severe injury? As a spurs fan, you cannot even be taken seriously about concern for cheapshots and resulting injury until you first distance yourself from Bowens behavior in the NBA.

 

[YouJustGotSUNSD]

How did you know what his intentions were?

I had read about this incident on a spurs board but didnt bother to view the video. However, after viewing it one cant argue that it wasnt intentional. The more disturbing part was Nash not even trying to remove his leg from the intentional trip.

Probably best you stay far away from this thread.

 

[LavaLamp2]

Grant Hill said it succinctly during one interview after being asked about the Spurs-Suns series in 2007: "We have to out-bully the bully" Maybe Nash is showing his mean side a lot more.

 

[YouJustGotSUNSD]

It's one thing to strategically place your foot somewhere with intent to injure a la bowen, it's another to leave it there so someone has to pay attention to where you are

And its a completely different animal to swipe at someone's achielles or JUMPKICK someone in the face.