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not for anything he did but for what he should do. he needs to rip the refs a new one in his post game comments.
 

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It's time for Nash to get fined. There is no need to save up money. Openly criticize them.
 

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ARGH!!!!!!!

You know what? To heck with it. We're not going to win the series the way things are being ref'ed. I wish every member of the Suns from bench player to D'Antoni would come out and in no uncertain terms let it rip about how much absolute BS this is. What are they going to do? Suspend the whole team? Screw it! We're going to lose anyway if the refs keep gift wrapping crap like this . . .

I absolutely cannot believe it. This is worse than the no-call when the Spurs had six men on the floor for their last posession . . .

ARGH!!!!

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Well I just saw d'antoni's press conference, he stepped around the whole thing, and unfortunately nash will do the same thing. Sometime you have to stand up for yourself guys.
 

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hsandhu said:
Well I just saw d'antoni's press conference, he stepped around the whole thing, and unfortunately nash will do the same thing. Sometime you have to stand up for yourself guys.

Figures. If I was Sarver I would have ordered everybody to say what they felt, and told them the fines were on me.

Absolute BS.
 

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"It wasn't meant to be" ?

WTF? Did the NBA give them a memo before the series? "You guys will lose the series, don't bother getting fired up."
 

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The Suns showed some fire in this game, particularly after halftime. But the bottom line is that they don't really give a crap.

This entire season was about winning a title. Then they lost Stoudemire. Then they played well anyway, so it was, "Maybe we'll still be able to put it together when Stoudemire comes back." Then they lost Thomas. But Stoudemire's recovery was looking good, so it was, "Maybe we can tread water while waiting for Stoudemire, and then put it together when Thomas comes back." But then Stoudemire's comeback got derailed, and I think that did them in. They know they can't win a title, so there isn't much to care about.

That's what Nash really means when he says, "It wasn't meant to be."
 
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How can Nash say "it wasn't meant to be"??? HOW??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't care about championship. I WANT THE TEAM TO PASS LAKERS. That's it. I don't freaking care if they lose to any other teams. What do you mean "it wasn't meant to be?"

The refs FCUKED it up. SAY IT!!
 

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jibikao said:
How can Nash say "it wasn't meant to be"??? HOW??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't care about championship. I WANT THE TEAM TO PASS LAKERS. That's it. I don't freaking care if they lose to any other teams. What do you mean "it wasn't meant to be?"

The refs FCUKED it up. SAY IT!!

Whats the point?

This team only made the playoffs because of how good we started with Thomas in the lineup.

Anyone could see that in the playoffs we wouldnt go far without a legit bigman.

While Tim Thomas is playing great, He has always been known as a big small forward.And now hes our center.

This team has to be dead tired playing every night without a real bigman.

Sooner or later this 3 smallforward lineup was going to get worn down and exposed.

Time to just let it end and bring everyone back next year and make a run at it again in 2007 with a hopefully healthy Amare and Kurt Thomas.
 

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elindholm said:
The Suns showed some fire in this game, particularly after halftime. But the bottom line is that they don't really give a crap.

This entire season was about winning a title. Then they lost Stoudemire. Then they played well anyway, so it was, "Maybe we'll still be able to put it together when Stoudemire comes back." Then the lost Thomas. But Stoudemire's recovery was looking good, so it was, "Maybe we can tread water while waiting for Stoudemire, and then put it together when Thomas comes back." But then Stoudemire's comeback got derailed, and I think that did them in. They know they can't win a title, so there isn't much to care about.

That's what Nash really means when he says, "It wasn't meant to be."

amen. Besides, I can guarantee that we would all be crying like babies right now if it was the other way around and the referees did make those calls. The calls definitely did not go the Phoenix Suns way down the stretch, but I don't think they were that bad. It was much worse earlier in the fourth quarter when Shawn Marion fouled out of the game. :)

I certainly don't think it was so bad that we should be talking about never watching the NBA again

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Whats the point?

This team only made the playoffs because of how good we started with Thomas in the lineup.

Anyone could see that in the playoffs we wouldnt go far without a legit bigman.

While Tim Thomas is playing great, He has always been known as a big small forward.And now hes our center.

This team has to be dead tired playing every night without a real bigman.

Sooner or later this 3 smallforward lineup was going to get worn down and exposed.

Time to just let it end and bring everyone back next year and make a run at it again in 2007 with a hopefully healthy Amare and Kurt Thomas.

The point is to pass Laker!!!! You know how embarrasing for us to lose to a #7 seed and with Nash going to win MVP award and lost the first round? I don't know about you but I can't let go like this. Not by the fcuked job by the refs.
 

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The point is to pass Laker!!!! You know how embarrasing for us to lose to a #7 seed and with Nash going to win MVP award and lost the first round? I don't know about you but I can't let go like this. Not by the fcuked job by the refs.

This isnt just any #7 team beating the #2 team

The tallest guy on the court for us is 6'8

You cant lose your starting allstar PF and then also lose your Center late in the season and still expect to compete.

We're getting punished on the boards, and playoff basketball is all about rebounding and defense.
 

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This isnt just any #7 team beating the #2 team

The tallest guy on the court for us is 6'8

You cant lose your starting allstar PF and then also lose your Center late in the season and still expect to compete.

We're getting punished on the boards, and playoff basketball is all about rebounding and defense.

Like people give a **** about injuries. You know people will only remember Kobe's game winning shot. This is about us protecting our pride.
 

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Nash can keep being this humble. It will haunt him down one day.


Imagine how they can present the MVP award in 2nd round when we are done in Game 5. LOL

Now, THAT'S embarrasing and I hope this team understands that.
 

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jibikao said:
Like people give a **** about injuries. You know people will only remember Kobe's game winning shot. This is about us protecting our pride.


Let's try to keep things in perspecitve here. Look, I love the Suns, and am crushed when they lose, but protecting your pride?

This was a tough loss. We win, we tie the series, and gain homecourt advantage, along with momentum. An unbelievable mix of bad luck and questionable calls that combined to make an extremely frustrating finish.

Unfortunately, it looks like Nash may be right, it looks like it isn't meant to be this year. With Kurt Thomas healthy, we are definitely winning the series, with Kurt Thomas and Amare, we're styling through LA on our way to the finals. It seems even if we did advance past the Lakers, we would have little serious hope to win it all this year anyway. Take Elton Brand and Kaman away from the Clippers, Duncan and Mohammed away from the Spurs, where would those teams be? I'll still be pissed if we lose the series, but we have much to look forward to.
 

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ASUCHRIS said:
Let's try to keep things in perspecitve here. Look, I love the Suns, and am crushed when they lose, but protecting your pride?

This was a tough loss. We win, we tie the series, and gain homecourt advantage, along with momentum. An unbelievable mix of bad luck and questionable calls that combined to make an extremely frustrating finish.

Unfortunately, it looks like Nash may be right, it looks like it isn't meant to be this year. With Kurt Thomas healthy, we are definitely winning the series, with Kurt Thomas and Amare, we're styling through LA on our way to the finals. It seems even if we did advance past the Lakers, we would have little serious hope to win it all this year anyway. Take Elton Brand and Kaman away from the Clippers, Duncan and Mohammed away from the Spurs, where would those teams be? I'll still be pissed if we lose the series, but we have much to look forward to.

I can't swallow a loss like this. If we lost by a blowout, I can finally admit that this team isn't there yet. Each game was within winnable reach and we blew it over and over again. Now that's frustrating.

I don't care who we lose in 2nd round. I really don't care but I want this team to get past the first round and beat Faker. I will be disappointed if they cannot do that. Almost all Faker players step up in playoff times. Geroge hit 2 straight 3pt to put his team behind 1pt in early 4th. Then you have Sasha who made like 7/11 3pt and Parker, Lamar and Walton who are all playing above their average. Why do they show more HUNGER than us?

How many of our players are playing BELOW their average?

Marion needs 2 games of insult to finally "get it"? He played very well down the stretch. He went in for rebounds almost every single time and played good defense. Why does it need to take 3 games to force him to play above his level?

Then we have Barbosa who only showed sign of improvement in game 1. Diaw had a great game today and it took him 3 games to figure it out. And Eddie House? He has not been on fire at all. Tim Thomas has been the surprise.

Why can't we show more hunger? We are going to get out rebounded anyway and we've shown to play through that. I am disappointed in Nash today because he couldn't seal the win in the 4th when we needed to. He could be tired or whatever but if he is going to be the MVP this season, he's gotta carry this team over Faker. I know MVP is only for regular season but I don't care. I have pride in being Nash's fan and I hope he understands his pride in being the MVP.
 
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You know what, the more I think about it, the more I am mad at Nash and coach D's attitude. What do you mean "not meant to be"? This series IS NOT OVER yet. What's up with this LOSER attitude? agrrrrr
 

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It disgusts me that Nash is just shrugging his shoulders, and then D'Antoni just wants to credit the Lakers and purse his lips. This team makes me sick sometimes, only Tim Thomas had the balls to say anything negative. There is no fire or pride in this team, we are way too laid back for our own good.
 

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There are a few things here:

1) I love Shawn Marion, but as we all agree, he never really stepped up his game, and even worse, it appears that nobody really confronted him about it.

2) What happened to the Raja Bell that ripped the team a few weeks ago? He has been playing great against Kobe--probably won't get all agreement from everyone here, but he has been terrific. But he hasn't had the fire that he has to get the team hyped.

3) On one hand, it's understandable WHY an NBA team and its players don't criticize the refs--games and money are lost in such fruitless pursuits. On the other, however, there should be some sort of equalization. YOu can't blame losses (or wins) on official's calls. But there is no denying at all that they have an effect--most of the time, that effect is fairly large in this league.

4) Size was a huge issue for us--defensively, we weren't THAT bad, but we couldn't do anything inside. Barbosa couldn't finish and we didn't run hardly at all. When we DID run, we finished well, but we just didn't run as much as we could have. And I hate the excuse of it just being the playoffs--if we wanted to run, we could have. We have played teams that are slow-down teams in the regular season, and we MADE them run with us.

5) I never thought we could win the title this season, especially after hearing everything about Kurt Thomas. What hurts more is that the Lakers were the team that is beating us (and will probably beat us in this series). But let's face it, the Lakers are playing some of the best basketball of the playoffs of any conference. They came in with a plan and have executed it to perfection. The losses for us have not been bad--we have played absolutely horribly in this series, and we barely lost these games. IF we played half as good as we did during the 11-game winning streak, this series would now be over. But we haven't.
 

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Chaplin said:
There are a few things here:

1) I love Shawn Marion, but as we all agree, he never really stepped up his game, and even worse, it appears that nobody really confronted him about it.

2) What happened to the Raja Bell that ripped the team a few weeks ago? He has been playing great against Kobe--probably won't get all agreement from everyone here, but he has been terrific. But he hasn't had the fire that he has to get the team hyped.

3) On one hand, it's understandable WHY an NBA team and its players don't criticize the refs--games and money are lost in such fruitless pursuits. On the other, however, there should be some sort of equalization. YOu can't blame losses (or wins) on official's calls. But there is no denying at all that they have an effect--most of the time, that effect is fairly large in this league.

4) Size was a huge issue for us--defensively, we weren't THAT bad, but we couldn't do anything inside. Barbosa couldn't finish and we didn't run hardly at all. When we DID run, we finished well, but we just didn't run as much as we could have. And I hate the excuse of it just being the playoffs--if we wanted to run, we could have. We have played teams that are slow-down teams in the regular season, and we MADE them run with us.

5) I never thought we could win the title this season, especially after hearing everything about Kurt Thomas. What hurts more is that the Lakers were the team that is beating us (and will probably beat us in this series). But let's face it, the Lakers are playing some of the best basketball of the playoffs of any conference. They came in with a plan and have executed it to perfection. The losses for us have not been bad--we have played absolutely horribly in this series, and we barely lost these games. IF we played half as good as we did during the 11-game winning streak, this series would now be over. But we haven't.

It's the fact that all the past 3 games are winninable that pisses me off. If we get blown out every game, then I'll say we are not there.

I won't trash Marion today 'cause he did show up, while Nash faded away in the end. Why can't we have both of them play well on the same day?

Of all players, I am mostly disappointed in Barbosa. I know it's unfair to ask a lot from him but when we are so short handed, I just hope he can surprise me. He was shooting like 45% on 3pt line during regular season. What's his shooting % in the last 3 games? I don't even want to go there.

If this team has ANY pride left, win game 5 and at least take it to Laker's.
 

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