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That's a lot of O-lines.

Name the second worst?

our "78 club" - you know, the team that let up 78 sacks and averaged 78 yards rushing a game. what year was that? they were still better than this pile of heaping dogcrap.
 

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Based on what?
The draft buzz on Potter (which is all most of us can go by) was that he had the quick feet and frame to project as a future starting LT, but that he needed to add bulk, get stronger and develop his technique before he'd be ready.

The thing about strength is that when you have it, you can compensate for lack of technique and maybe get away with it. But if you lack strength, the word will get around the League that you can get rolled by power rushers.

At least right now, the coaches apparently don't feel Potter is ready (even in comparison with the two tackles we've got).
 

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our "78 club" - you know, the team that let up 78 sacks and averaged 78 yards rushing a game. what year was that? they were still better than this pile of heaping dogcrap.

1997. Leland McElroy was the leading rusher. He averaged 3.1 yards per carry.
 

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The thing about strength is that when you have it, you can compensate for lack of technique and maybe get away with it. But if you lack strength, the word will get around the League that you can get rolled by power rushers.

And in the preseason he got BLOWN UP & I MEAN DECLEATED more than a couple times.


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With enough money they could have Jake Long, Brian Waters, Todd McClure, Ryan Lilja and Levi Brown as according to kffl the first 4 are 2013 free agents.

If you look around the league, most teams are struggling at Oline. So these guys will be at a premium. We wont touch any of them.


I say put together a crack team of Oline scout masters, who are outside of the Cards organization, to build us a big board of Draft O line prospects. I dont trust our FO with judging Oline talent. Get some masters together to do it for us, and draft via BPA of those guys.
 

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Keep in mind he was once thought to be a first round OT talent by scouts before they realized how inexperienced and weak at point of attack he is. There is athletic talent there.
yup. right after 2011 he was graded as a 1st rounder in 2012
 

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I distinctly remember Charley Casserly mentioning Nate Potter as a guy to keep an eye on. This was toward the end of preseason and was based on conversations with a Cardinal insider or insiders.

To me that means he is raw, but they think he has potential. It doesn't mean that he is the LTOFT, but that he could develop into it. That is the best the Cardinals can hope for IMO, because being in a position to draft a plug and play left tackle means drafting in the top 5 and we aren't bad enough for that.
 

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I distinctly remember Charley Casserly mentioning Nate Potter as a guy to keep an eye on. This was toward the end of preseason and was based on conversations with a Cardinal insider or insiders.

To me that means he is raw, but they think he has potential. It doesn't mean that he is the LTOFT, but that he could develop into it. That is the best the Cardinals can hope for IMO, because being in a position to draft a plug and play left tackle means drafting in the top 5 and we aren't bad enough for that.

I wonder if they like him as much as they loved Brandon Keith?
 

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I wonder if they like him as much as they loved Brandon Keith?

Potter is a better athlete, but his success will really be determined on his technique and his strength in handling power moves. If he can develop these to a league standard, he has the athleticism to be starter.
 

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Potter is a better athlete, but his success will really be determined on his technique and his strength in handling power moves. If he can develop these to a league standard, he has the athleticism to be starter.
So he is a seventh round pick with underdeveloped technique and strength?

:thud:

Will fit right in...
 

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So he is a seventh round pick with underdeveloped technique and strength?

:thud:

Will fit right in...

Every player has issues inthe 5th, 6th and 7th rounds. Do you want a more technical player who doesn't have the athletic ability to be anything better than average OR would you prefer to try and develop a player's strength and technique to match with their innate athleticism on the chance they can develop into a top level player? I would prefer to shoot for the moon.
 

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Every player has issues inthe 5th, 6th and 7th rounds. Do you want a more technical player who doesn't have the athletic ability to be anything better than average OR would you prefer to try and develop a player's strength and technique to match with their innate athleticism on the chance they can develop into a top level player? I would prefer to shoot for the moon.

The only problem is that with the Arizona Cardinals that almost never happens.

Every once in a while I'd like to see a guy like Antonio Smith play to starter level before it was either too late to keep him or he was already on another team's roster.

And then there's the guys that do exceed their draft status while still in Arizona that we let go play in places like Baltimore or Kansas City.
 

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If you were in my age group you might think it's a Lil Abner reference (Julie Newmar could stupify men with her hips) but I'm pretty sure it's Harry Potter (the boy who lived).

Steve
lol, I thought it was a "Disturbed" reference...
 
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