NBA Trade Deadline news and rumors 2019-20 season

[Phrazbit]

Wow, what an ass. If he weren't so stupid, he'd realize that this is destroying whatever small chance he might have of getting another coaching job.

Earl J, as our head coach, was masterful at getting players to hate it here. He is just leaning on his strengths.

 

[Hoop Head]

I have a really bad feeling how the rest of this season is going to go.

no hope for the playoffs, pretty much the whole bench know they are leaving the team through free agency or are not wanted, Kelly now knows the plan is to trade him in the offseason.

booker told don’t worry we will do something later.

Monty is going to have to do a hell of a job to motivate anyone to care.

I doubt that is the case. Kelly knew signing a 2 year deal was a gamble for many reasons but the Suns didn't trade him. If they wanted to, they would have. He's a pro and knows about having your name be placed into rumors, it's happened to him before. There was talk of him being flipped again last year at the deadline. I don't see his attitude or demeanor changing.

 

[1Sun]

I doubt that is the case. Kelly knew signing a 2 year deal was a gamble for many reasons but the Suns didn't trade him. If they wanted to, they would have. He's a pro and knows about having your name be placed into rumors, it's happened to him before. There was talk of him being flipped again last year at the deadline. I don't see his attitude or demeanor changing.

Perhaps not, but I expect not an ounce of effort from Booker or Ayton at this point, and the rest of the roster couldn't keep up with a college team, let alone NBA competition.

 

[BC867]

In the 1920's, there was a comedy act called Ted Healy and his Stooges.

They eventually separated and thus was born The Three Stooges. The Howard brothers Moe and Curly, who was later replaced by brother Shemp and,
when he died, Curly again. And Larry Fine.

When Curly became ill, replacements stepped in. Joe Palma, Curly Joe DeRita, Joe Besser. Then, when Moe became ill, the group was done.

Here it is, the 2020's and we now have Robert Sarver and his Stooges. Jeff Bower, James Jones (who knows who reports to whom?) and Monty Williams.
I feel sorry for Monty. All he wants is a balanced roster and to do his job.

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[BC867]

Why do you keep engaging him? From what I can tell, only you and maybe BC are the ones that actually engage him the most. And BC generally agrees with him.

There is a difference between substance and style.

1Sun's repetitive style gets on all our nerves.

But, you must admit, he and I were the first ones who saw this fiasco coming.

Or, at least, the ones who went public with it.

I don't blame our posters for not wanting to hear it early on, but the writing was on the wall.

In my personal life, I always hope for the best. But I cannot help being a realist, as well. When
I see warning signs, I blow the whistle.

The sad part is, no matter what we post, it has no bearing on the situation. Robert Sarver has
ruined the Suns. With no hope in sight.

 

[Chaplin]

There is a difference between substance and style.

1Sun's repetitive style gets on all our nerves.

But, you must admit, he and I were the first ones who saw this fiasco coming.

Or, at least, the ones who went public with it.

I don't blame our posters for not wanting to hear it early on, but the writing was on the wall.

In my personal life, I always hope for the best. But I cannot help being a realist, as well. When
I see warning signs, I blow the whistle.

The sad part is, no matter we post, it has no bearing on the situation. Robert Sarver has ruined the Suns.
And keeps on doing it.

And what fiasco is that? That we would be a bad team? Um, you don't own the monopoly on thinking that. We've already bested our win total from last year, so you can't use the "same old, same old" excuse. But nobody thought we were a playoff team.

Again, what fiasco did you predict?

 

[1Sun]

And what fiasco is that? That we would be a bad team? Um, you don't own the monopoly on thinking that. We've already bested our win total from last year, so you can't use the "same old, same old" excuse. But nobody thought we were a playoff team.

Again, what fiasco did you predict?

That management would do nothing of substance to improve the team, and that the crap we as fans have had to endure for the past decade would just continue indefinitely.

 

[95pro]

Why do you keep engaging him? From what I can tell, only you and maybe BC are the ones that actually engage him the most. And BC generally agrees with him.

It sucks ignoring such a prolific poster--it makes most threads confusing. And when you "show ignored content" it's 99% of the time eye-rolling ridiculous.

Might have to put Phraz on ignore too

 

[Proximo]

I doubt that is the case. Kelly knew signing a 2 year deal was a gamble for many reasons but the Suns didn't trade him. If they wanted to, they would have. He's a pro and knows about having your name be placed into rumors, it's happened to him before. There was talk of him being flipped again last year at the deadline. I don't see his attitude or demeanor changing.

Here is the reason I say this - supposedly it was told to Booker we will make some trades during the offseason - well if they are letting all the free agents go - who are they talking about - It is not hard to tell they are talking about Kelly. There is a reason his name was leaked out in the media as potentially available.

Other than draft picks there is just about nobody else to trade - and trades require salary to complete when everybody is capped out.

Basically the Suns are in a really really bad spot. They don't have assets to make trades, their are no good free agents, and even if there were I doubt a good one would want to go to the suns in their current shape, and we are relying on James Jones to make our draft pick.

It's hard to see how this can go well.

 

[Proximo]

Perhaps not, but I expect not an ounce of effort from Booker or Ayton at this point, and the rest of the roster couldn't keep up with a college team, let alone NBA competition.

I don't agree with this. If anybody should stay motivated it should be our two rookies and Ayton and Bridges. They are trying to makes names for themselves in the league and make some money.

 

[BC867]

And what fiasco is that? That we would be a bad team? Um, you don't own the monopoly on thinking that. We've already bested our win total from last year, so you can't use the "same old, same old" excuse. But nobody thought we were a playoff team.

Again, what fiasco did you predict?

Chap, how could you possibly defend the status of the Suns,
starting with about four years after Jerry turned the team
over to him and he had to plan the future?

"We've already bested our win total from last year"? Are you serious?

Hey, we're not quite as piss-poor as we were last season.

A decade out of the post season and you're condoning it?

I'll held off posting this, but it sounds like a couple of you
are on the payroll. I'm posting that jokingly, but I cannot
understand anyone accepting what the Suns have become.

 

[1Sun]

I don't agree with this. If anybody should stay motivated it should be our two rookies and Ayton and Bridges. They are trying to makes names for themselves in the league and make some money.

After just having learned with the Booker snub that this is impossible while a Phoenix Sun and then having learned that management plans not to anything about it.

There are few things worse in the professional world than working for a boss who doesn't give a damn about you or about your organization.

And our two rookie draft picks flat out suck. Our undrafted free agent rookie has more talent than the two of them combined.

 

[BC867]

I don't agree with this. If anybody should stay motivated it should be our two rookies and Ayton and Bridges. They are trying to makes names for themselves in the league and make some money.

Or . . . they will be trying to let the league know that the Suns pathetic situation does
not reflect on their potential. Because they're not getting the support they should.

Like the Clippers under Sterling. And the Knicks under Dolan.

Y'know, like we all know what Booker is feeling about his All Star snub because the
league disrespects the Suns and, therefore, everything about it.

Look at how many blatant mis-calls by the refs have gone against us. And the Suns
whine. And the fans whine.

 

[Russ Smith]

Wow, what an ass. If he weren't so stupid, he'd realize that this is destroying whatever small chance he might have of getting another coaching job.

I like Earl but he's been doing the same thing with UCLA taking shots at Coach Cronin etc. He's just making it far tougher to get another job.

 

[1Sun]

Or . . . they will be trying to let the league know that the Suns pathetic situation does
not reflect on their potential. Because they're not getting the support they should.

Like the Clippers under Sterling. And the Knicks under Dolan.

Y'know, like we all know what Booker is feeling about his All Star snub because the
league disrespects the Suns and, therefore, everything about it.

Look at how many blatant mis-calls by the refs have gone against us. And the Suns
whine. And the fans whine.

And even the Knicks under Dolan are at least trying to improve their roster and their management.

I had never before seen a team in any sport so obviously and significantly heading in the wrong direction just stand pat.

 

[Russ Smith]

As a Warrior fan not happy with the deal. First off not a Wiggins fan, he's only 24 maybe playing with Steph, Dray and Klay will motivate him to play D and pass the ball(he is having his best assist year ever) but 6 years in the league seems unlikely. Right now he's a better Harrison Barnes offensively, not as good on defense. I think they will be much worse without D Lo, even with Curry due back in a few weeks apparently. Long term D Lo didn't fit, pick and roll guy in a system that doesn't like that much but I wanted more.

Also mad they traded Spellman I really like him as a stretch 5 backup. Chriss and Draymond are the 5's now, presumably Smailagic off the bench. Maybe gets more minutes for Paschall at the 4 if Dray is strictly a 5 I don't know.

I'm glad we still haven't traded Burks but he's probably gone next year.

I wish they did a multi team trade and got Joe Harris instead, much prefer him

 

[Hoop Head]

Here is the reason I say this - supposedly it was told to Booker we will make some trades during the offseason - well if they are letting all the free agents go - who are they talking about - It is not hard to tell they are talking about Kelly. There is a reason his name was leaked out in the media as potentially available.

Other than draft picks there is just about nobody else to trade - and trades require salary to complete when everybody is capped out.

Basically the Suns are in a really really bad spot. They don't have assets to make trades, their are no good free agents, and even if there were I doubt a good one would want to go to the suns in their current shape, and we are relying on James Jones to make our draft pick.

It's hard to see how this can go well.

I can see that but if they let their own free agents go then they'll have cap space to absorb contracts from teams that are capped out or nearing the luxury tax without sending much, if anything back. That is part of how the Hawks and Grizzlies built their team, making trades to take players in with their cap space. The Grizzlies got a 1st for taking Iggy's deal in and more assets to trade him away. Teams will be looking to clear space, even in a summer where there aren't a lot of attractive free agents. The Suns will be in a position to be a team that helps facilitate deals, like some have predicted in the past but they never had the cap space to actually do anything worthwhile.

 

[1Sun]

I can see that but if they let their own free agents go then they'll have cap space to absorb contracts from teams that are capped out or nearing the luxury tax without sending much, if anything back. That is part of how the Hawks and Grizzlies built their team, making trades to take players in with their cap space. The Grizzlies got a 1st for taking Iggy's deal in and more assets to trade him away. Teams will be looking to clear space, even in a summer where there aren't a lot of attractive free agents. The Suns will be in a position to be a team that helps facilitate deals, like some have predicted in the past but they never had the cap space to actually do anything worthwhile.

People have been saying that very thing about the Suns for at least the last 3 years. Look where that has gotten us.

 

[Hoop Head]

As a Warrior fan not happy with the deal. First off not a Wiggins fan, he's only 24 maybe playing with Steph, Dray and Klay will motivate him to play D and pass the ball(he is having his best assist year ever) but 6 years in the league seems unlikely. Right now he's a better Harrison Barnes offensively, not as good on defense. I think they will be much worse without D Lo, even with Curry due back in a few weeks apparently. Long term D Lo didn't fit, pick and roll guy in a system that doesn't like that much but I wanted more.

Also mad they traded Spellman I really like him as a stretch 5 backup. Chriss and Draymond are the 5's now, presumably Smailagic off the bench. Maybe gets more minutes for Paschall at the 4 if Dray is strictly a 5 I don't know.

I'm glad we still haven't traded Burks but he's probably gone next year.

I wish they did a multi team trade and got Joe Harris instead, much prefer him

Burks is gone, with Glenn Robinson III to Philly for a bunch of 2nd round picks.

Shams reported that yesterday, did it fall apart?

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https://www.nba.com/article/2020/02/06/philadelphia-76ers-trade-golden-state-warriors-report

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

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**** Earl

 

[Russ Smith]

Burks is gone, with Glenn Robinson III to Philly for a bunch of 2nd round picks.

Shams reported that yesterday, did it fall apart?

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https://www.nba.com/article/2020/02/06/philadelphia-76ers-trade-golden-state-warriors-report

Crap I missed that thanks for telling me.

I hate the deal even more now. Loved Burks and liked G Rob

 

[Mainstreet]

Well, in the draft everyone can get lucky.

But probably not if you are looking to draft seniors - it's got to be someone with potential which James seems scared of.

A team makes their own luck by putting themselves in position to be successful. The Suns draft record over the past number of years has been miserable with the exception of the 2015 and 2018 drafts. And the results are not fully in for the 2018 draft.

Maybe the Suns should be less reliant on luck, heavily invest in scouting and try being good.

 

[Mainstreet]

Doesn’t seem to be the way Jones operates.

I know we’re all pretty pissed at the moment but none of us should be surprised here. Jones literally all but said on the radio a week or so ago that they weren’t going to be major players and that with DA back, they’re a different team and they want to develop that. I think we all hold out hope that he’s just publicly not being forthright about their plans but I think at this point we just need to take Jones at his word.

I'm not surprised how James Jones operates but I think they could do a better job of telling fans what they are doing.

Fans and media shouldn't have to be glued to twitter trying to get a hint if they are making any moves. For goodness sake the Suns should be better at public relations. It seemed like the local media and most of the national media were in the dark as much as the fans. No wonder misleading stories get out like the Suns were taking calls on Oubre.

The only good news that came out of today is the Suns didn't trade Kelly.

 

[JerkFace]

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This is an odd tweet... I would assume that every GM talks deals to just about every other GM, if for no other reason than due diligence... seems like the Suns wanted this out there as some sort of lame damage control.

 

[1Sun]

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This is an odd tweet... I would assume that every GM talks deals to just about every other GM, if for no other reason than due diligence... seems like the Suns wanted this out there as some sort of lame damage control.

Precisely this. Ridiculous misleading propaganda and an insult to the intelligence of the fans. Talk about pouring salt on our wounds...