NCAA Proves Once Again That They Are Frauds

[Bert]

The only people who could possibly feel good about this process are the ever obnoxious Buckeye fans. Your whole post is spot on. Total BS. TCU got JOBBED

 

[NJCardFan]

It needs to be 8 teams or better. No question.


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About 20 years ago I came up with a 16 game playoff that started the week after championship week and ended on New Years day. It's doable.

 

[Azlen]

If we had last year's process in place, we would probably have Florida St playing Alabama for the title. What we have this year is definitely a step in the right direction.

 

[Jim Otis]

TCU just found out about that elevator ride , the short one from the penthouse !!!

 

[AzStevenCal]

The only people who could possibly feel good about this process are the ever obnoxious Buckeye fans. Your whole post is spot on. Total BS. TCU got JOBBED

Baylor has just as much right to complain and that's part of the problem. The Big 12 needed to chose one over the other so they'd have a clear champion to compete with Ohio State. They committed playoff suicide when they chose not to do that. Here's a quote from CBS Sportsline supporting this:

In regard to Baylor and TCU, which respectively finished at No. 5 and No. 6 in the final rankings, Long said the Big 12 gave the committee both teams as co-champions, a fact that was weighed and evaluated.

Ohio State is a questionable choice but the same would have been true for any of those 3 teams. I can't believe some people are so upset over this. Watching them play I think TCU was deserving but they lost to Baylor, a team I was never impressed with. Ohio State showed better in most of the categories the committee considers and the simple fact they weren't up against a conference champion (because the conference wouldn't name a champion) was more than enough to decide this. And, again, it's for the number 4 entrant. IMO, they got the appetizer, meal and dessert correct although they probably could have chosen a better digestif. Hardly a travesty but OTOH, I support anyone's right to hate on Ohio State.

Steve

 

[Stout]

Play a championship game. The Big 12 tried to be cute and got cut on the only category they lacked. Sucks for the kids but this is what happens when you try to avoid a category that was already deemed important to the committee.


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Bingo. Ohio State beat the #13 team in the nation 59-0 in the conference title game. TCU didn't play one. Ball game.

 

[Bert]

So a superficial "championship" is worth more than a season of evidence. Wow. Not after you guys I realize you don't make the decision, it's still ridiculous.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

TCU got jobbed. Other teams too.

Four teams for a playoff is a joke.

 

[Buckybird]

TCU got jobbed. Other teams too.

Four teams for a playoff is a joke.

Yep

Only 1 team in the top 4 got kicked out after not losing.

Even though I think Baylor deserved being in over TCU. One of them deserved playing in the final 4.

Like I said if Baylor or TCU were named Texas, OU, USC, the U or ND 1 if them would've been in the playoff under the same circumstances. The conference thing is just an excuse to get a high profile team in.

 

[AzStevenCal]

So a superficial "championship" is worth more than a season of evidence. Wow. Not after you guys I realize you don't make the decision, it's still ridiculous.

No, it's that there isn't a 4th team with an unassailable claim on that last playoff spot. TCU looked like the better team of the three (to me) but if you put them in how do you explain it to Baylor? They each had one loss and Baylor beat TCU head to head. I think they got the first 3 teams correct and I think that each of the next 3 had an argument for that last spot. If they'd named Baylor or TCU instead of Ohio State, we'd have the same complaining - it would just be coming from a different group of people.

Steve

 

[82CardsGrad]

Big 12 needs to get to 12 teams and then hold a Championship... Once they do, we'll see the playoffs move to 8 teams: 5 from the Power Five Conference Championships and 3 at-large bids...

 

[Stout]

Yep

Only 1 team in the top 4 got kicked out after not losing.

Even though I think Baylor deserved being in over TCU. One of them deserved playing in the final 4.

Like I said if Baylor or TCU were named Texas, OU, USC, the U or ND 1 if them would've been in the playoff under the same circumstances. The conference thing is just an excuse to get a high profile team in.

Hole in your logic--TCU only got in last week by skipping over teams that didn't lose. So, it's okay for them but not other teams? Nah.

Maybe TCU is better. I can't answer that. Ohio State answered the question by crushing the #13 team 59-0 this week. TCU didn't have the chance to do something similar. Blame it on the Big-12.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Big 12 needs to get to 12 teams and then hold a Championship... Once they do, we'll see the playoffs move to 8 teams: 5 from the Power Five Conference Championships and 3 at-large bids...

That sounds about right

 

[Buckybird]

Hole in your logic--TCU only got in last week by skipping over teams that didn't lose. So, it's okay for them but not other teams? Nah.

Maybe TCU is better. I can't answer that. Ohio State answered the question by crushing the #13 team 59-0 this week. TCU didn't have the chance to do something similar. Blame it on the Big-12.

Again, not 1 single team throughout the process got booted out of the top 4 after winning except for 1!!! If they weren't good enough before the Bucs win, they shouldn't have been in in the 1st place I could care less what OSU did. That's the crime in it.

It's bogus.

 

[Stout]

Again, not 1 single team throughout the process got booted out of the top 4 after winning except for 1!!! If they weren't good enough before the Bucs win, they shouldn't have been in in the 1st place I could care less what OSU did. That's the crime in it.

It's bogus.

You're grossly splitting hairs. You're trying to focus the argument even tighter, since TCU leapfrogged Florida State in the rankings last week, when both teams won. The criteria doesn't fit your argument, so you try to change the parameters to make it 'out of the top 4' instead of getting leapfrogged.

El Wrongo. If it's cool to get leapfrogged when you win, it's just as cool to fall out of the top 4 while doing so. If it isn't cool, then TCU wouldn't have been in the top 4 anyway. It's a non-issue.

Look, there's teeth gnashing over who is number 4. There always will be teeth gnashing over the final playoff spot. Suck it up. We have a system where that third deserving team doesn't get left out. The 4th, 5th, 10th, etc, deserving team? It's all a tossup.

 

[Cheesebeef]

TCU beat one team that ended up in the top 25 by the end of the season. OSU beat two and Baylor both beat 2. TCU has zero argument as far as I'm concerned.

 

[AzFan13]

Then how does Baylor not get in? They had a tougher schedule than OSU, played more ranked teams than OSU, and they won their conference. The truth is, this was politics 101. They wanted a bigger TV draw than Baylor or TCU.

They did not out right win their conference. They tied with yes TCU. Even with the win over TCU they have a co champion if the records match. They only use the head to head to pick their top bowl seed. It's dumb but it's how they roll. Nether team was an out right winner. ESPN has their SOS as this. Ohio State 45th, TCU 53 and Baylor 59.

It might all suck but it is as they said it would be. Ohio State won their conference out right. They had a harder strength of schedule. Baylor had two better wins and their loss was to a better team but that's not how they split the teams that are close. I don't like it but like I said it's what they said the would do from day 1.

Don't play high Scholl teams in your out of conference games. Baylor had the easiest in the nation. Play a conference championship game. They new the rules the playoff committee was going to use. By those set of guild lines like it or not they got it they way it was set up.

SOS.
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You're grossly splitting hairs. You're trying to focus the argument even tighter, since TCU leapfrogged Florida State in the rankings last week, when both teams won. The criteria doesn't fit your argument, so you try to change the parameters to make it 'out of the top 4' instead of getting leapfrogged.

Good point. As I said before at lest the top two are in. In a few years we can fight about the 8th spot.

 

[Mathew81]

They should have never released rankings week by week. If they had just waited until the end of the season and picked the same 4 teams, very few people would be arguing about it. But with rankings, everyone is use to the old system of not dropping down if you win. Once your on top, you stay there until you lose. The committee obviously wanted to get away from that mentality but to do that they need to stop the weekly rankings.

 

[Cards_Campos]

Its easy to understand if you use the logic of how they ranked teams. Lets say each team who beats a ranked opp gets 30 points..and if you beat a non ranked opp you get 10....TCU as of last week could have had say 300 total points while FSU had 290 ad Ohio State had 280 ...Now if you win a conference CHampionship you gain an extra 10 points....So Even though TCU was 3rd...Both FSU and OSU beat ranked opps...and won Conference Titles out right....Add the points up after this weekend and now FSU and OSU have more points Hence TCU falls....it is pretty simple really.

Plus OSU has won 11 straight games!!! losing to a bad team Sept 6!!!! 3 months ago is ridiculous to bring up now....teams evolve.

also....OSU has beaten 9!!! bowl eligible teams! TCU 5! it really isn't close if you really look at it.....Indiana beat Missouri and NW beat Notre Dame...so the Big Ten has big wins too

Also Baylor played 3 horrible teams in Non conference...in fact worse in College football...while TCU had 3 BYES!!! not hard to have 2 weeks to prepare for their toughest games.

 

[Buckybird]

Its easy to understand if you use the logic of how they ranked teams. Lets say each team who beats a ranked opp gets 30 points..and if you beat a non ranked opp you get 10....TCU as of last week could have had say 300 total points while FSU had 290 ad Ohio State had 280 ...Now if you win a conference CHampionship you gain an extra 10 points....So Even though TCU was 3rd...Both FSU and OSU beat ranked opps...and won Conference Titles out right....Add the points up after this weekend and now FSU and OSU have more points Hence TCU falls....it is pretty simple really.

Plus OSU has won 11 straight games!!! losing to a bad team Sept 6!!!! 3 months ago is ridiculous to bring up now....teams evolve.

also....OSU has beaten 9!!! bowl eligible teams! TCU 5! it really isn't close if you really look at it.....Indiana beat Missouri and NW beat Notre Dame...so the Big Ten has big wins too

Also Baylor played 3 horrible teams in Non conference...in fact worse in College football...while TCU had 3 BYES!!! not hard to have 2 weeks to prepare for their toughest games.

Let's not pretend the Big Ten was a good conference or what it used to be, please & the Big 12 was down as well. OSU lost to a BAD Hokies team!!! I could care less when that was, they were bad if you watched any of their games! The Bucs got in on who they are & their history & politics of the NCAA.

 

[Chopper0080]

A couple thoughts on this...

1- I would rather have one good team out than one bad team in. I love the playoff only being 4 teans.

2- The only reason TCU was ahead of Ohio St was because the committee was unsure how Ohio st was going to be with a 3rd string QB. Once they proved they were good to go vs Wisconsin, I would have been shocked to see them not bein the top 4.

3-I think the four best teams made it. I have seen them all, and TCU/Baylor are not better than the four that were chosen.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Tell me..... Why aren't Baylor and TCU playing in the fiesa bowl? Or orange?

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[Southpaw]

Big 12 got jobbed big time. 2 worthy teams and they got nothing. Committee sold out to the networks. Ohio State and FSU deserved to be last 2 out.

Baylor and TCU are small town private religious schools. That is what they had going against them. The committee sucks.

 

[Russ Smith]

A friend of mine nailed it IMO. The mistake is determining how many teams are in the playoff before the games are played. They picked 4, there are 6 teams deserving, so 2 get left out.

Why not have 6 play 3 and 4 play 5, the winners go into the final 4? You set the number every year based on how many teams deserve a shot. It's still subjective yes, the 7th team would complain, but this year it's pretty clear you can't really tell TCU it was fair they went from 3rd to 6th while winning in a blowout.

 

[Dback Jon]

Big 12 got jobbed big time. 2 worthy teams and they got nothing. Committee sold out to the networks. Ohio State and FSU deserved to be last 2 out.

Baylor and TCU are small town private religious schools. That is what they had going against them. The committee sucks.

No, both TCU and Baylor did not deserve to be in there.


It came down to numbers - 6 deserving teams for 4 spots.


B12 tried to game the system and got slapped.


The three final teams - OSU, Baylor and TCU all had pluses and minuses.