Nebraska gone to Big 10

[Renz]

orangebloods.com is reporting that a Nebraska regent has told them that the decision to join the Big 10 is a done deal and an announcement will come Friday.

ESPN's Chris Mortensen is reporting that the Big 10 has made a formal offer to Nebraska to join the conference and that AD Tom Osborne has informed his staff of the coming changes.

The dominoes are falling.

PS- Sorry about the typo in the title

 

[devilalum]

Only Nebraska?

 

[Renz]

Only Nebraska?

Looks that way. I've heard reports that Missouri is now getting the cold shoulder from the Big 10.

 

[Tyler]

Im going to laugh if Mizzou winds up in the Sun Belt or something.

 

[devilalum]

Nebraska gives the Big 10 twelve teams. They can create two divisions and have their league bowl game just like the SEC does.

 

[ajcardfan]

The Big 12 is going to go the way of the old SWC. It might not happen this year, but it will happen.

 

[Renz]

The Big 12 is going to go the way of the old SWC. It might not happen this year, but it will happen.

Absolutely. Look at the Big 12 North now: Colorado, Iowa St., Kansas, Kansas St. & Missouri. Terrible.

Why wouldn't the Big 12 South (most likely substituting Colorado for Baylor) join the Pac-10 now?

They would be exchanging the Big 12 North for USC, UCLA, ASU, Arizona, Oregon, Cal, Washington etc. It's a no-brainer.

 

[arthurracoon]

And so it begins...

 

[Tyler]

I dont know how I feel about ASU and UA playing in the same sub conference as Texas and OU. Scary prospect.

 

[Gaddabout]

There were indications the Big 10 wanted Nebraska, Missouri, and three teams with northeastern TV exposure. If they've ditched those plans (say, Syracuse), then Missouri is definitely out.

 

[Tyler]

Honest question here.

When Nebraska goes to the little 11, will they too play 7 cupcake games followed by maybe 4 or 5 "decent" games ala Ohio State and Michigan?

 

[splitsecond]

I dont know how I feel about ASU and UA playing in the same sub conference as Texas and OU. Scary prospect.

I think UA is poised to at least ATTEMPT to compete since we already have good TX recruiting connections and a Stoops, but I can't say the same for ASU. They need to get their act together and fire Erickson before this realignment begins scheduling games.

 

[Renz]

I dont know how I feel about ASU and UA playing in the same sub conference as Texas and OU. Scary prospect.

There will be growing pains, but it will only help ASU and UA football recruiting in the long run.

It especially helps UA who already recruits extensively in Texas and Oklahoma. It will help ASU make inroads there as well and there's a wealth of talent in those states.

 

[ajcardfan]

I dont know how I feel about ASU and UA playing in the same sub conference as Texas and OU. Scary prospect.

Well, as a person who has attended both Texas A&M and ASU, I can tell you it would be pretty damn brutal for ASU. A&M had a fantastic run in football for about 15 years, but once they slipped Texas and OU have had a hammerlock on recruiting in Texas. ASU would have a hard time competing with Tech, A&M and Ok State too.

For college baseball, it would be off-the-hook overloaded with power teams. And, it would be the toughest football sub conference in the nation IMO. Even in basketball, both UofA and ASU would find it far more challenging than the current PAC 10.

That said, ASU can't play scared. They need the money. There are no other options for ASU.

 

[ajcardfan]

There will be growing pains, but it will only help ASU and UA football recruiting in the long run.

It especially helps UA who already recruits extensively in Texas and Oklahoma. It will help ASU make inroads there as well and there's a wealth of talent in those states.

That will cut both ways. Those schools will open up inroads into California and Arizona too. Recruiting in Texas against Texas and Oklahoma is already brutal.

In the end, it will be about getting the right coaches in place to compete in the new conference for both ASU and UofA.

 

[splitsecond]

Well, as a person who has attended both Texas A&M and ASU, I can tell you it would be pretty damn brutal for ASU. A&M had a fantastic run in football for about 15 years, but once they slipped Texas and OU have had a hammerlock on recruiting in Texas. ASU would have a hard time competing with Tech, A&M and Ok State too.

For college baseball, it would be off-the-hook overloaded with power teams. And, it would be the toughest football sub conference in the nation IMO. Even in basketball, both UofA and ASU would find it far more challenging than the current PAC 10.

That said, ASU can't play scared. They need the money. There are no other options for ASU.

Hopefully Lisa Love isn't smart enough to find this forum, but she would a complete buffoon not to start looking at going after Mike Leach.

 

[Renz]

That will cut both ways. Those schools will open up inroads into California and Arizona too. Recruiting in Texas against Texas and Oklahoma is already brutal.

UA and ASU can't go head-to-head against UO and UT. That's not what I'm saying.

There is plenty of talent there to go around after Texas and Oklahoma take the players they want. And Texas already recruits California very well.

 

[Gaddabout]

UA does not recruit Texas well. They do OK. ASU has never done well and doesn't even put in the effort anymore.

That's not going to change with this. You're still competing against the same schools: Texas, A&M, Oklahoma, Nebraska, LSU, Arkansas, Notre Dame, BYU, and any SEC school that tries to come in cherry pick. That's never going to change.

It's a treacherous drive to get from Dallas or Houston to any major city in Arizona -- nothing like the 4 to 6 hours it takes to get there from SoCal. That's never going to change.

But good luck if you think either school should go "all in" on the Texas recruiting. I predict dismal failure.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Well, as a person who has attended both Texas A&M and ASU, I can tell you it would be pretty damn brutal for ASU. A&M had a fantastic run in football for about 15 years, but once they slipped Texas and OU have had a hammerlock on recruiting in Texas. ASU would have a hard time competing with Tech, A&M and Ok State too.

True, but I really doubt ASU and UA's feelings were considered that much in this whole thing. Both of us will be okay if the right leadership is in place (which of course spurs a whole other debate because no Cat or Devil can honestly say with 100% certainty that they have their guy at the head job in hoops or football). Doing this will ensure revenues that will allow both schools never having to watch a successful coach flee to a big money job elsewhere. This conference would at the very least be comparable to the SEC and their lowest paid coaches make more than Stoops and Erickson.

For college baseball, it would be off-the-hook overloaded with power teams. And, it would be the toughest football sub conference in the nation IMO. Even in basketball, both UofA and ASU would find it far more challenging than the current PAC 10.

I don't know baseball, but in hoops it would be like the Big East. Seven or eight teams in the conversation every year. The Pac-10 Basketball Tournament would be quite the event.

That said, ASU can't play scared. They need the money. There are no other options for ASU.

Unless the Arizona schools wants to end up in the MWC they have no choice. This will be good for both of us in the long run, both AD's are running on fumes financially and creating the best conference in college athletics will drive in huge donations and dollars. Without even knowing the TV contracts, just the sheer amount of fans and national interest these new schools are going to bring when traveling or otherwise are going to be huge for the school and local economy's books.

 

[Renz]

But good luck if you think either school should go "all in" on the Texas recruiting. I predict dismal failure.

Who said that? UA and ASU will always recruit heavily in California, but any school that ignores Texas are fools.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

UA does not recruit Texas well. They do OK. ASU has never done well and doesn't even put in the effort anymore.

Agreed, it will help Arizona and ASU but as long as Oklahoma and Texas remain among the country's elite then we will be left out in the cold. Hell, UCLA hasn't been good in years and they still outrecruit the AZ schools in SoCal.

But good luck if you think either school should go "all in" on the Texas recruiting. I predict dismal failure.

Massive failure. The Stoops name and the local connections on the AZ staff will go a bit further than the Erickson name and whoever he has recruiting Texas, but the goal will always be to find unheralded kids or studs that the big boys want to play at their non-preferred position. The next Vince Young or Adrian Peterson ain't going to Tempe or Tucson just because they play in the same conference.

The goal will be just like any other school - build a fence around your home base, find some diamonds in the rough, and hope land something big here and there in the deeper talent pools.

 

[ajcardfan]

I don't know baseball, but in hoops it would be like the Big East. Seven or eight teams in the conversation every year. The Pac-10 Basketball Tournament would be quite the event.

Yes, it would. And, since you know college hoops well don't you think OU-Ok St, UT-A&M and Colo-Tech would be tougher travel games than Wash-WSU, the Oregon schools, and the Bay area schools? I guess Colo-Tech in recent years shouldn't be too tough for good programs, but the other two pairs would be a bitch. IMO

 

[ajcardfan]

The goal will be just like any other school - build a fence around your home base, find some diamonds in the rough, and hope land something big here and there in the deeper talent pools.

That's how Tech and Ok St. broke through there in recent years. Both schools got some top talent, but they did a fantastic job getting the 2-star and 3-star recruits, who wouldn't even get sniffed by UT-OU, and fitting them into their systems. And, frankly, that's where ASU has been terribly weak over the past decade. So few of our more lightly regarded recruits seem to outperform the recruiting guides.

 

[Southpaw]

Honest question here.

When Nebraska goes to the little 11, will they too play 7 cupcake games followed by maybe 4 or 5 "decent" games ala Ohio State and Michigan?

I can imagine an East & West division set up.

West

Nebraska
Iowa
Minnesota
Illinois
Northwestern
Wisconsin

East

Penn State
Ohio State
Purdue
Indiana
Michigan
Michigan State

each division would have 2 cupcakes and 2 cornerstones.

5 games in their own division and 2-3 out of division. Leaves 3-4 games Out of Conference.

 

[Gaddabout]

Who said that? UA and ASU will always recruit heavily in California, but any school that ignores Texas are fools.

Neither school ignores Texas right now. Having the Texas schools in conference isn't going to swing the Arizona schools either way in recruiting.