Nebraska's New Head Coach?

[Stout]

Originally posted by Houdini
Talk about Ironic, Nebraska fires a winning coach because of pressure from alums and because of its tradition. Penn State is scared to fire a losing coach because of his tradition despite pressure from alums.

I know, right?

Seriously, though, I don't think Paterno is done yet. This year's disaster is almost completely due to the lack of experience. We lost tons of starters to the NFL (4 1st rounders!). Paterno is also criticized for lack of creativity. Actually, he has used TOO much creativity this year, trying to branch out and modernize.

Next year, we have one of the top recruiting classes, a good looking sophomore RB, some solid vet leadership, a Vick-like QB in Robinson, and Joe Pa. I think we definitely make a decent bowl, if not make a run for the Big 10 title. I'm not ready to say we'll compete for the title QUITE yet Lol

Also, I think Joe Pa will retire after next season (a winning season) and Fran Ganter will assume the coaching position. Mark my words.

 

[Houdini]

Originally posted by Stout
I know, right?

Seriously, though, I don't think Paterno is done yet. This year's disaster is almost completely due to the lack of experience. We lost tons of starters to the NFL (4 1st rounders!). Paterno is also criticized for lack of creativity. Actually, he has used TOO much creativity this year, trying to branch out and modernize.

Next year, we have one of the top recruiting classes, a good looking sophomore RB, some solid vet leadership, a Vick-like QB in Robinson, and Joe Pa. I think we definitely make a decent bowl, if not make a run for the Big 10 title. I'm not ready to say we'll compete for the title QUITE yet Lol

Also, I think Joe Pa will retire after next season (a winning season) and Fran Ganter will assume the coaching position. Mark my words.

I follow the Big Ten because I'm a Badger fan. I'd also add that the conference overall was pretty tough from top to bottom. No real powerhouse team, but a lot of very good teams. Penn State lost to Ohio state by only a point, and were in most of the games except for the last one against Michigan State. Penn State will be winning again. I don't know what will happen with the Joe Pa situation, but he's one of the few college coaches I have a lot of respect for.

 

[Bobcat]

Originally posted by Russ Smith
Dave McGinnis!

Sorry couldn't resist.

Your best Quote ever Russ!!!!

Allan

 

[conraddobler]

Originally posted by Bobcat
Your best Quote ever Russ!!!!

Allan

And the Lord said, "Dave thou shalt smite all teams bearing the name Big Red and bring them low"

Dave replied, "I'm on it like chickens on bad taters"

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I would look for Walt Harris to emerge as a leading candidate.I believe Pederson was instrumental in bringing him to Pitt from Ohio State.Talk about changing offensive philosophy,Harris probably doesn't know what an option play is.

 

[CaptTurbo]

Shouldnt this be in the off topic area? I mean who really cares about Nebraska let alone college football.

 

[SECTION 11]

Originally posted by Skkorpion
Barry Alvarez has the perfect job at Wisconsin. As long as he wins 7, people are happy. Why would he ever leave for that pressure at Nebraska.

Face it, cornhuskers. With both Oklahoma and Texas recruiting every turd who runs a 4.3 but can't write a term paper, you don't have a chance.

Unless you turn hypocrite again and cheat the way you usually have when you win.

Ah, but that's right. From Johny Rogers to Lawrence Phillips, from Bob Devaney to Tom Osborn, you don't really care, do you?

Just win, baby.

That whole conference is an academic joke. And don't tell me how many academic all-american linemen you have, it's the criminal women beaters who allow you to win.

Firing Frank Solich after a 9-3 season exposes Nebraska as a fraud - again.

Wow. This is one of the worst assessments of Nebraska's program I've ever read.

The #1 school in the land (Oklahoma) is graduating 6% of their football players, and you want to pick on Nebraska's 67% graduation rate? It's not Notre Dame's 87%, but it's well above the 52% average.

In 1996 The Greatest College Football Team Of All Time blasted Florida 62-24 and won the title. The incoming 1996 freshman class graduated over 90% of it's players. The National Champion teams of 1994 and 1995 both graduated over 70% of their players.
http://www.theindependent.com/stories/071102/Hus_nugrads11.html

Don't talk about Academic All Americans? Why not? Because they now have 78 total in football with 2003 winners Pat Ricketts and Judd Davies (two starters)? Because they lead the country with 59 first team Academic All Americans (17 more than Notre Dame)?

Digest that.


And no quality discussion on class takes place without mentioning Notre Dame going for a fake punt with a 50 point lead against Stanford. This isn't Lawrence Phillips in 1995, this is Notre Dame's coach, your coach, in 2003, against his old recruits. Welcome back Ty. Glad to have ya. You're a great man now coaching a great program... My White Hairy Butt.

Julius Jones had a terrific day, going for over 200 yards and 1000 on the season. A terrific comeback from the academic ineligibility he enjoyed all of last season.


Notre Dame. Home of the scalper ticket. Tradition and honor; to the highest bidder.
I can't wait for the next Husker/Irish matchup in South Bend. Given the ease at which 35K Big Red faithful made their way into the stadium (and rushed for over 300 yards) the next time should see at least 50K.

 

[SECTION 11]

"It's difficult because there are so many fine young men I have a great deal of respect for," Willingham said. "You want them to have success."

~Ty Willingham. Speaking on his former recruits at Stanford after going for a fake punt with a 50 point lead (the worst loss ever at home for Stanford).

 

[AZCB34]

Section 11, I am intrigued by your thought of Monte Kiffin. First how old is he? And does he even want to be a HC at any level?? I don't think there has been ALOT wrong with Nebraska's D this year but rather an archaic O. Am I wrong on that?

I don't follow Nebraska football like you do, but as a casual observer I think their HC opening is merely the tip of the iceberg for the Huskers. Not sure I understand exactly why Solich was fired (he had a heckuva record during his tenure) but it has to be for more than on field results...not suggesting anything improper.

The Huskers some years ago ruled the Big 12 (10 at that time) but were seemingly routinely thumped in bowl games. The reason was speed IMO. Other teams just ran circles around them. Nebraska could thrive in the Big 12 but realized they needed speed to compete on the national stage.

Now is another one of those watershed moments for the program. They can get speed but they need a HC who will bring in coordinators who will install more of an updated offensive scheme with a better built passing game. Teams have the speed to stop the running game these days and passing continues to grow in the college game. Thus Nebraska must adapt again to the changing college football landscape.

JMHO.

 

[SECTION 11]

He's 62 I believe. Realistically I don't see him taking over, but as a long shot it's a possibility. He's reached the top as far as DC's in the NFL and maybe the Sapp's and Rice's of the world are getting a little old.

They probably should upgrade their offense. It's an uphill battle at this point recruiting wise.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Turner Gill take over, but that's more of the same offense, which is fine with me really, as long as he gets the recruits to make it work.
After all in 97 they beat Tennessee with a defense that had Al Wilson and Leonard Little (and Peyton Manning at QB), so I'm not sure they're sold on overhauling completely just yet.

 

[SECTION 11]

Iowa's Kirk Frerenz (?) and Kansas City OC Al Saunders are also possible candidates.
It could very well be the interim coach DC Bo Pelini. Tom Rathman (RB coach in San Francisco) has mentioned that he might be interested in the OC job if Pelini stays as HC.
Should be interesting. I like the Al Saunders pick.

 

[AZCB34]

Originally posted by SECTION 11
He's 62 I believe. Realistically I don't see him taking over, but as a long shot it's a possibility. He's reached the top as far as DC's in the NFL and maybe the Sapp's and Rice's of the world are getting a little old.

They probably should upgrade their offense. It's an uphill battle at this point recruiting wise.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Turner Gill take over, but that's more of the same offense, which is fine with me really, as long as he gets the recruits to make it work.
After all in 97 they beat Tennessee with a defense that had Al Wilson and Leonard Little (and Peyton Manning at QB), so I'm not sure they're sold on overhauling completely just yet.

But don't you think this is the prime point in the history of Nebraska football to start making the transition to a more conventional passing offense? If they hire coach X and he keeps the same O scheme and goes 9-3, 8-4, 9-3 will that make the faithful happier? I see the Solich firing as one that is based on expectations (maybe expectations that are set too high) not being met, both on field and off field.

I find your statement about the uphill recruiting battle interesting. Do you think if the Huskers overhauled their O to combine a better devised passing game to go along with a perenially strong running game, that recruiting would actually be easier for them?

Texas and OU clearly have the better recruiting options these days but I think that is due to being a program that is built to win games but also graduate players to the NFL. They get the NFL caliber recruits while Nebraska gets the good-very good college recruits. Am I reading that right?

 

[SECTION 11]

I think you're exactly right, but with the NFL calibre recruits come (often) poor academics, which I don't think is going to fly either.

 

[AZCB34]

Originally posted by SECTION 11
I think you're exactly right, but with the NFL calibre recruits come (often) poor academics, which I don't think is going to fly either.

Not that I disagree, but then the Husker faithfull will have to accept not being annual championship contenders. At some point, any program will have to accept student athletes who are not devoted to studies if they expect to have championship aspirations...maybe even big payday BCS aspirations.

I guess from here, the Huskers need to be most concerned with regaining superiority in the Big 12 North and worry about the Texas' and Oklahoma's later.

This HC hiring may be even more important to the Huskers future than the one after Osborne. There has now been the bridge built from the Osborne era to the new era of Nebraska football. Solich was likely doomed to failure on alot of different levels. The new guy may get more latitude.

 

[EndZone]

I would love to see Bo Pelini made the head coach, that guy has fire! And most of the recruits we already had signed mostly name him as a guy they like, most had not even talked to Solich.

Yes Solich's record and yes he went to the Rose Bowl and played (if you call it that) for a NC. But that was all with TO's recruits. Solich is a VERY BAD recruiter. VERY BAD!!! Just look at the QB's that Solich has recruited since taking over at HC, Jamal Lord is the only one playing! 2 are out of football and one is serving as 3rd string QB behind a QB that is a freshman (Joe Dailey was recruited by the new staff brought in last year) Solich seemed to be a coach who was more reactive than proactive.

Skkorps response just sounds like some bitter person who can't open their eyes and see things for what they really are. Johnny Rogers and Phillips...thats the best you can come up with? Someone from the 70's and someone from the mid 90's yup we are infested with criminals! All institutions deal with it, kids these days have no morals.

 

[jf-08]

I wonder if Stoops is kicking himself by taking the Arizona job. What a rivalry OU / UNL would have been with brothers each at the helm.

 

[EndZone]

Originally posted by jkf296
I wonder if Stoops is kicking himself by taking the Arizona job. What a rivalry OU / UNL would have been with brothers each at the helm.

Nebraska would never hire Stoops. Off the field issues.

 

[Renz]

Originally posted by EndZone
Nebraska would never hire Stoops. Off the field issues.

 

[EndZone]

Originally posted by Renz

Lets just say his nightlife tendancies would not fit with the mentality there.

 

[WizardOfAz]

Originally posted by EndZone
Lets just say his nightlife tendancies would not fit with the mentality there.

That's a magnificent post!

 

[EndZone]

Originally posted by WizardOfAz
That's a magnificent post!

Why thank you!

 

[WizardOfAz]

Originally posted by EndZone
Why thank you!

I see you missed my point.

Any chnace you could back that last post of yours up? Maybe provide a fact or two. At least a little context?

 

[EndZone]

Originally posted by WizardOfAz
I see you missed my point.

Any chnace you could back that last post of yours up? Maybe provide a fact or two. At least a little context?

Facts we don't need no stinking facts!

So true or not, I was told by a Nebraska Recruiting insider that staff at the AD's office said that Mike was known in the conference for being quite a party man. Supposedly liked to hang out at the girly bars.

I personally would have LOVED for him to be the coach at Nebraska. We would still be able to keep Pelini the D Coord becuase he is a good friend with the Stoops. It would be safe to say the Mike knew before he took the job in Az that the job would be opening being he and his brother are such good friends with Stoops.

 

[WizardOfAz]

Originally posted by EndZone
the AD's office said that Mike was known in the conference for being quite a party man.

So the bottom line is the boosters - the ones really running this process - didn't want him?

 

[EndZone]

Originally posted by WizardOfAz
So the bottom line is the boosters - the ones really running this process - didn't want him?

I am sure some did some didn't. There are alot of pissed off boosters right now that Solich was fired the way he was.

I think the boosters want Kiffin....and his son.